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Post by poindizzle on Mar 2, 2014 11:11:05 GMT -5
In the interest of being fair and balancing out a complaint with a compliment, right now, what's the number one thing you like and dislike about Mattel's WWE line? It can be any thing from any line, no detail too small to scrutinize or praise. I'll start:
Praise: The wide variety of parts mixed and matched to make the most accurate figures they can. Scale can sometimes be wonky, but they largely play by their rules. Miz might be thinner than his real life counterpart but he is to scale with Mattels standard of say, Dilph Ziggler is more toned, Batista has more mass, Big Show is taller, Rey and Daniel Bryan are shorter etc. etc. Also, they are not afraid to pull out unique molds if an attire needs it. With Jakks, John Morrison gets the pants mold. With Mattel he gets long tights and fuzzy boot cuffs that were only ever used on him. The variety of arms, torsos, and legs is the highest I think I've ever seen in a modern mass market line.
The complaint: For me this is a huge deal. More than anything else, I am tired of the inconsistent neck post lengths. Every Elite John Cena from E17 up had the same length neck until BOPPV WM 29 Cena with his neck buried to his shoulders. It ruins what would have been my favorite Elite Cena ever. Basic Fandango originally had a short neck, the new assortmebts I've seen have girraffe neck. Signature series truth and the upcoming basic Rob Van Dam have neck pegs so long that there's a gap between the head and the figure where the peg is exposed. It's visually inconsistent. Despite even being miniscule, it would be enough for the mind to realize something is wrong, let alone how staggeringly of it truly is on some.
Sound off, tell me what you think!
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Post by ricflair4ever on Mar 2, 2014 11:41:55 GMT -5
Since I've been critical of their QC issues lately, I'll throw them a bone and give them their kudos too.
The main draw to Mattels, for me, is the better scaling and more attention to detail. Jakks had their moments where they did pay attention to detail and made a great figure. But they also had pants ,shirts,jackets etc. with only the front halves detailed and such. But the real excelling point was the better scaling of the figures to each other. And keeping the basic and elite lines compatible. If jakks had done that with the DA line and the RA line, I would have bought more DAs than I did. Really, the only complaint I have with Mattel is with their quality control. Get that worked out and I have no complaints.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2014 12:06:37 GMT -5
Praise: I love their Elite line. I think the prices are very fair and the figures look all around incredible. We get a lot of great detailing in these figures as well as some great accessories (E27 Fandango comes to mind when I think of recent figures who got awesome detailing). The line is perfect and instead of doing away with Legends figures, it is great that they integrated Legends into the main Elite line, especially considering that gives our friends overseas the opportunity to get Legends figures now.
My complaint: The variety of superstars, mainly in the Elite line. While I am very thrilled to still be getting Legends figures, I am very disappointed that some of the spots in Elite lines (1-2 and some times 3 or 4) spots are taken up by Legends when they could have been given to people who did not get Elites before. I think back to Elites like Luke Gallows, Cryme Tyme, etc and think wow, I would have never expected those superstars to get Elites. Then I see super stars like Curt Hawkins, The Usos and 3MB who I think would look incredible as Elites, but I know will likely never get Elites because of the lack of space in the Elite line. I truly feel that if the Legends line didn't tank in the first place and it continued on through to today, we would have had a lot of people get Elites that never had the chance to get them (Mike Knox, Hurricane, Tommy Dreamer, some of the Nexus).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2014 12:17:15 GMT -5
Praise: I love their Elite line. I think the prices are very fair and the figures look all around incredible. We get a lot of great detailing in these figures as well as some great accessories (E27 Fandango comes to mind when I think of recent figures who got awesome detailing). The line is perfect and instead of doing away with Legends figures, it is great that they integrated Legends into the main Elite line, especially considering that gives our friends overseas the opportunity to get Legends figures now. My complaint: The variety of superstars, mainly in the Elite line. While I am very thrilled to still be getting Legends figures, I am very disappointed that some of the spots in Elite lines (1-2 and some times 3 or 4) spots are taken up by Legends when they could have been given to people who did not get Elites before. I think back to Elites like Luke Gallows, Cryme Tyme, etc and think wow, I would have never expected those superstars to get Elites. Then I see super stars like Curt Hawkins, The Usos and 3MB who I think would look incredible as Elites, but I know will likely never get Elites because of the lack of space in the Elite line. I truly feel that if the Legends line didn't tank in the first place and it continued on through to today, we would have had a lot of people get Elites that never had the chance to get them (Mike Knox, Hurricane, Tommy Dreamer, some of the Nexus). I agree with pretty much everything you said. Not so much that I want to see more current superstars as elites, but more variety is definiutely needed. We don't need 20 Kofis, Cenas, Ortons and Sheamus'. |
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Post by jacguitarist on Mar 2, 2014 12:46:39 GMT -5
For the pros, I'd say scale, the vast variety of parts and detail. I know people complain about paint sometimes, but I love the fact that they'll continue a design/logo throughout a joint or point of articulation. The wm xxx shawn is a great example of this...the back of his tights at the bottom still continues even though the bottom knee articulation breaks it up. Jakks would have skipped it or moved it to the wrong spot.
The only real con I see is their lack of willingness to take risks sometimes, but I think they're getting better with that.
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Post by PJ on Mar 2, 2014 12:53:28 GMT -5
The only complaint I have is they aren't trying to reintroduce a Legends line. 1-2 FB a set isn't enough.
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Post by CrossRhodes on Mar 2, 2014 12:58:56 GMT -5
Praise: I love their Elite line. I think the prices are very fair and the figures look all around incredible. We get a lot of great detailing in these figures as well as some great accessories (E27 Fandango comes to mind when I think of recent figures who got awesome detailing). The line is perfect and instead of doing away with Legends figures, it is great that they integrated Legends into the main Elite line, especially considering that gives our friends overseas the opportunity to get Legends figures now. My complaint: The variety of superstars, mainly in the Elite line. While I am very thrilled to still be getting Legends figures, I am very disappointed that some of the spots in Elite lines (1-2 and some times 3 or 4) spots are taken up by Legends when they could have been given to people who did not get Elites before. I think back to Elites like Luke Gallows, Cryme Tyme, etc and think wow, I would have never expected those superstars to get Elites. Then I see super stars like Curt Hawkins, The Usos and 3MB who I think would look incredible as Elites, but I know will likely never get Elites because of the lack of space in the Elite line. I truly feel that if the Legends line didn't tank in the first place and it continued on through to today, we would have had a lot of people get Elites that never had the chance to get them (Mike Knox, Hurricane, Tommy Dreamer, some of the Nexus). Yup I pretty much was gonna say exactly this so I have no more to add except a re-quote! |
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Post by Labeled101 on Mar 2, 2014 13:26:26 GMT -5
Con: E27 Rakishi was given Daniel Bryan/CM Punk kicker boots! The ankle is SO skinny it doesn't work. I also can't stand the leg mold used for these guys, they are too skinny. Worst part is these legs were used for E27 RVD. Figures initially thought to be knock outs are in my opinion now considered mediocre.
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Post by Mr. Show on Mar 2, 2014 14:34:55 GMT -5
Con: I may be alone in this, but I hate the newer ball joint hips on elites. I loved the older legs that sort of locked in position. I hate the wobbly loose new legs. It ruined the New Age Outlaws elites, which were my most wanted Mattels. I display my figures standing up, I dont like them doing splits under their own weight. Plastic shirts are dumb too.
Pros: literally everything else, Im satisfied with.
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Post by Emma F'n Lution on Mar 2, 2014 15:31:46 GMT -5
Positive - The amount of variety in the divas they've dished out - I couldn't ever see JAKKS giving out a Rosa Mendes or Miss Elizabeth - but MATTEL did that - we only really got figures of the mainest divas - but with MATTEL they're not afraid to release the lower card divas (wish I could say that about the males in elite form!)
Negative - MATTEL is all about the money - JAKKS could release several jobbers in their famed ''Deluxe Aggression'' series and an unthinkable amount of legendss in the ''Classic Superstars'' range - MATTEL dissapointingly won't make as many legends as Flashbacks, nor release many , if any, jobbers in the elite line - because all they care about is money - JAKKS seemed to actually dwelve deep into the wrestling scene and enjoy it, whereas MATTEL are like ''Hey Hogan is back! Lets release loads of him instead of a new elite Yoshi Tatsu, just because we will earn $$$ from it. YAY!''
RANT OVER
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Post by marino13 on Mar 2, 2014 16:00:45 GMT -5
Pro: I love my collection and for the most part I'm pleased with them all. They seem to always be striving to do better IMO.
Con: I wish Basic Punks had color chest tattoos. Lack of Legends like Windham, Beefcake, Steiner Brothers etc....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2014 16:05:38 GMT -5
Pros: Mattels look great. Much much more detailed than JAKKS. Not everyone is a cookie cutter image of some ripped mold. When Batista and 123 Kid have the same mold, something is wrong.
Cons: Length of a new release and lack of a large roster depth. Yes, I understand reasons are behind them, still sucks though.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Mar 2, 2014 16:05:40 GMT -5
PRO: They're the best wrestling figures of all time. The roster, the quality, all awesome.
CON: The quality control sucks.
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Post by BØRNS on Mar 2, 2014 16:06:45 GMT -5
Praise:
- Attention to detail
- Seem to do a thorough job for most of the figures
Complaint:
- Very expensive
- Lack of unique attires/too many of the same re-releases
- Very slow distribution of Elites
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Post by LA Times on Mar 2, 2014 16:34:02 GMT -5
Praise:
-Figures are in scale with each other
Complaint:
-Expensive
-Poor distribution
-Needs better packaging for Elite to prevent accessory thefts
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Post by qdogg on Mar 2, 2014 16:35:28 GMT -5
Prices are concerning me a bit and I see it on the shelfs of my stores. I dont see Elite's moving as quickly. Alot of Elite 23 and 25. I am very happy with the product however and the variety of characters we get. Not many figure lines have as much product to choose from.
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Post by wrestlingbillyho on Mar 2, 2014 17:25:06 GMT -5
Praise: the overall quality and detail of the figures. It's just outstanding and the best we've ever seen.
Complaint: lack of completion in the Elite line with regards to both current Superstars and Legends, and some un-needed repetition in the Elite line as well (IE Orton, Mysterio, Triple H). Let's get some fresh faces in there!
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Post by King Richius on Mar 2, 2014 17:34:06 GMT -5
Pros: Mattel has shown constant improvement in the detail of figures. From E19 on it seems like each set just gets better and better. They've done a good job of keeping up with the current roster while still giving the old-time collectors our flashbacks at a reasonable rate.
Cons: A few too many repaint releases of guys like Cena, Orton, Sheamus, Rey, Big Show, etc. Although I haven't received any problem figures it does seem like there are some quality control issues regarding paint applications, loose parts, or figures breaking right out of the package.
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Mar 2, 2014 18:38:24 GMT -5
Praise: How fast distribution has been; great head scans; wonderful attention to detail
Cons: Lack of roster depth. Glad we are getting Crush, Rikishi, Billy Gunn etc but there's still so many we all want!
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Mar 2, 2014 19:15:39 GMT -5
Positive - The amount of variety in the divas they've dished out - I couldn't ever see JAKKS giving out a Rosa Mendes or Miss Elizabeth - but MATTEL did that - we only really got figures of the mainest divas - but with MATTEL they're not afraid to release the lower card divas (wish I could say that about the males in elite form!) Honestly, if Jakks still had the WWE license, we would have had an Elizabeth. Jakks werent afraid to take risks. RA 17 was nothing but jobbers. Can you imagine Mattel putting out a set of just Curt Hawkins, Jinder Mahal, Heath Slater, and JTG? It wouldnt happen. Also, the part about Jakks only giving us the main Divas is untrue IMO. They gave us Cherry, Ariel (who wasnt even in the company for a year), and Layla(when she wasnt a big deal) and alot of others. If Jakks still had the license, we would probably have about 90% of the current roster IMO. |
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