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Post by Rob on Mar 4, 2014 18:28:54 GMT -5
I still think Daniel Bryan will be added to the title match at WM. Last night pretty much hinted towards it with that 3 way interaction between orton/batista/bryan.
They have pretty much given Bryan CM Punk's storyline as well as continuing his own so he is pulling a double duty right now.
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Post by Suckasays on Mar 4, 2014 18:30:53 GMT -5
I still think Daniel Bryan will be added to the title match at WM. Last night pretty much hinted towards it with that 3 way interaction between orton/batista/bryan. They have pretty much given Bryan CM Punk's storyline as well as continuing his own so he is pulling a double duty right now. Probably if he beats HHH he'll get in. Or Hogan will put him in even after losing to HHH.
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Post by bababooey on Mar 4, 2014 19:01:16 GMT -5
If Punk doesn't leave and ends up facing HHH at Wrestlemania, what's Bryan doing? Funny thing is that even though I like how this is being done, I think if Punk didn't leave Bryan would have probably won Elimination Chamber leading to a Triple Threat at Wrestlemania with Batista being the Rumble winner and Orton using his rematch.
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Post by Chip on Mar 4, 2014 20:35:32 GMT -5
For me it's not about "oh i think Bryan should be champion, anything else is garbage"
i'm enjoying his run, im enjoying the fans going apecrap for the guy. but im not stupid, this kind of thing can only last so long. eventually people are going to tire of cheering the guy to no end only to have him not be the champion and it will fizzle out into a more normal level at best.
either way it's going to fizzle out into normalcy. but why push the envelope? the entire thing is hanging by a thread, you can only create soo much hype and anticipation followed by disappointment. it'd be like going to your favorite restaurant, ordering your favorite meal and it not tasting right....but the chef says "wait until next time you taste it! it'll be amazing!" then you come back and its still not as good, so the chef says "oh i forgot the salt, NEXT time it will be perfect"
eventually you would stop going, and it would end up being the time he finally got it right.
funny how WWE has the chance to make a big star, they did it with Cena so many years ago....
he got over with the fans, he won some mid-card titles, he worked his way into a WWE title match at Wrestlemania and won. He hasn't looked back since. He didn't have to constantly be screwed, or dragged through the mud, or told (weekly) that he wasn't good enough. same with Batista Randy Orton
newer guys like Big E & Roman Reigns are slowly being pushed and made to look amazing, while Bryan has had to spend all his time "proving" he's good. thats the biggest issue with this whole thing
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Post by The Yes Man on Mar 4, 2014 20:37:47 GMT -5
The WWE Championship is supposed to be the ultimate prize, not a random mid card title to use to get people over. If you NEED the title to get over, then you shouldn't be the champion, period. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Where would the WWE be today if they hadn't jumped on Austin in 1998? The simple answer is that they would be nothing more than archived footage back in Atlanta. The thing is he got Austin got hot in mid 96 with the 3:16 speech. He was continuously built up over a year and a half before he was given the title. Extrapolating that to Bryan would be like everyone crying that Austin was only facing Bret at WM 13 and not Sid for the title. I think things worked out OK If you want to talk about when they got hot, then for Bryan that would be April 2012. And that's just when he got REALLY hot. He's been pretty darn over with the crowd since his debut.
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Post by k5 on Mar 4, 2014 22:30:04 GMT -5
i've been entertained with daniel bryan with basically all they've put him in, truth is perhaps maybe he IS one of those people that don't need the title. however, the amount of people being so vocal both online and in arenas makes it evident that him main eventing wrestlemania was a very important move for wwe to make, and they didn't.
i watch less now than i did before the royal rumble, and i'm less interested. what the underlying reason is for that to be honest i don't know, but batista being back and being used in such a big role/cm punk leaving/lack of big matches + proper build at mania/and hhh vs bryan (i just feel bryan could have a far better match with someone else) are definitely factoring in.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2014 0:08:05 GMT -5
If they don't make him WWE Champion at Mania, then no, they haven't handled him correctly. Bryan beating Triple H isn't bigger than Bryan being put over as the man. I don't know how this is even still an argument. Also, the fans were chanting for CM Punk half the time Stephanie and Triple H were talking, so take that for what it's worth. Game. Set. Match. This is all that needs to be said, really.
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Post by Kanenite on Mar 5, 2014 11:42:00 GMT -5
I really think that Daniel will get added to the Main Event.
Last night, I was just waiting for Hogan or Vince to come out, take Bryan's side, and make the stipulation that if Daniel beats HHH, he goes on to make the WWE title match a Triple Threat.
It didn't happen last night, but I'd imagine it will happen very soon.
Also, they had all three of them in the ring last night, and Orton/Tista were pretty much acting like allies backstage before the Main Event.
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Post by hbkowns on Mar 5, 2014 12:00:54 GMT -5
I think it's working very well. I love how they're dragging to give Bryan the strap because there is a very good reason. I don't know why people are so anxious to see Bryan get the title.
The extraordinary story is Bryan getting stepped on by the authority and Bryan's constant push and drive to win the big one. Once he has won, it's over. He beat the authority. Sure he's still going to feud with the authority but it's not going to have the same buzz as him climbing the ladder as he is doing right now.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Mar 5, 2014 12:44:36 GMT -5
They've made mistakes along the way, but I agree that Monday was great and things have been working out to make people go even crazier for Bryan.
Also, I still firmly believe he'll somehow be put into the main event at Mania. He'll still wrestle Triple H, but there's no way the title match will stay heel vs heel without putting a third man into it. And they would be stupid for it not to be him.
I know there has been an argument over whether this was planned from the beginning or not. And I do think some aspects have been, though obviously not all of it. However, the plan now is very much to make him the star. The fact that he dominates every situation he's in until the numbers take over is proof of that. Sure, his match with Batista was short, but he had almost all of the offense.
I agree that he should get that belt at Mania, and while I won't go so far as to say it's the only way, I will say I think it's going to happen. I also think either Vince or Hogan will play some role in it (guest hosts usually have some sort of kayfabe booking power). Either way,this will work out for Bryan in the end. Remember, it was a year and a half from when Austin first hit big until he won the title.
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Post by IRS on Mar 5, 2014 13:34:19 GMT -5
Any scenario other than Bryan walking out the main event of WM as WWE Champion is a failure, imo. WWE has such a HUGE opportunity to solidify Bryan as possibly the next "guy", and if they don't cash-in on it at Mania, they are really ing stupid. Does he NEED the title? No, maybe he doesn't. But considering people keep saying the title is a meaningless prop, don't you think that maybe giving the most over guy in the industry a strong run with the belt might give it some more prestige? Sure, the HHH/Bryan segment on Monday was good, and the match might be good, and the YES! chant if Bryan wins might be great, but what will it really matter in the end? Bryan will still be in the same damn spot he's been in for 6 months. If he is still added to the title match later in the night, and he wins, I'll give WWE credit where credit is due. But if he isn't, this is a massive failed opportunity on WWE's part.
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Post by Road Warriors on Mar 5, 2014 13:46:00 GMT -5
Any scenario other than Bryan walking out the main event of WM as WWE Champion is a failure, imo. WWE has such a HUGE opportunity to solidify Bryan as possibly the next "guy", and if they don't cash-in on it at Mania, they are really ing stupid. Does he NEED the title? No, maybe he doesn't. But considering people keep saying the title is a meaningless prop, don't you think that maybe giving the most over guy in the industry a strong run with the belt might give it some more prestige? Sure, the HHH/Bryan segment on Monday was good, and the match might be good, and the YES! chant if Bryan wins might be great, but what will it really matter in the end? Bryan will still be in the same damn spot he's been in for 6 months. If he is still added to the title match later in the night, and he wins, I'll give WWE credit where credit is due. But if he isn't, this is a massive failed opportunity on WWE's part. The bottom line is even Stevie Wonder can see what needs to be done.
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Post by Chief on Mar 5, 2014 17:14:50 GMT -5
Triple H is the TOP heel. He's been portrayed as the biggest bad ass and has had the most focus on TV. Orton has been his bitch.
Beating HHH will do more for Bryan then winning the title. I really don't see how people can't understand that.
HHH RARELY LOSES. Bryan can win the title anyday of the week. And even then the title doesn't mean that much and hasn't meant a lot in years.
Beating HHH matters more.
The fact that some of you think this whole angle is a failure if Bryan doesn't win the title at Mania is absurd. The fans are going to go just as crazy if he beats HHH.
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Post by Chief on Mar 5, 2014 17:17:48 GMT -5
And you guys really think winning the title over Orton and Batista solidifies him as a top guy over BEATING HHH?
Seriously?!
This is 2014. If this were the 80s or the early 90s or even the mid 90s, I would agree with you about the title.
There are stars who are bigger then the title. HHH is one of them and beating him cleanly in the middle of the ring at Mania does so much more then winning the title.
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Post by The Yes Man on Mar 5, 2014 18:03:09 GMT -5
Triple H is the TOP heel. He's been portrayed as the biggest bad ass and has had the most focus on TV. Orton has been his bitch. Beating HHH will do more for Bryan then winning the title. I really don't see how people can't understand that. HHH RARELY LOSES. Bryan can win the title anyday of the week. And even then the title doesn't mean that much and hasn't meant a lot in years. Beating HHH matters more. The fact that some of you think this whole angle is a failure if Bryan doesn't win the title at Mania is absurd. The fans are going to go just as crazy if he beats HHH. Triple H lost to the last 3 people he faced, including Curtis Axel.
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Post by weaseltv on Mar 5, 2014 18:21:12 GMT -5
Triple H is the TOP heel. He's been portrayed as the biggest bad ass and has had the most focus on TV. Orton has been his bitch. Beating HHH will do more for Bryan then winning the title. I really don't see how people can't understand that. HHH RARELY LOSES. Bryan can win the title anyday of the week. And even then the title doesn't mean that much and hasn't meant a lot in years. Beating HHH matters more. The fact that some of you think this whole angle is a failure if Bryan doesn't win the title at Mania is absurd. The fans are going to go just as crazy if he beats HHH. Triple H lost to the last 3 people he faced, including Curtis Axel. I just spent the last 2 minutes watching Bryan knee Cena in the face over and over...
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Post by Chief on Mar 5, 2014 18:21:26 GMT -5
Triple H is the TOP heel. He's been portrayed as the biggest bad ass and has had the most focus on TV. Orton has been his bitch. Beating HHH will do more for Bryan then winning the title. I really don't see how people can't understand that. HHH RARELY LOSES. Bryan can win the title anyday of the week. And even then the title doesn't mean that much and hasn't meant a lot in years. Beating HHH matters more. The fact that some of you think this whole angle is a failure if Bryan doesn't win the title at Mania is absurd. The fans are going to go just as crazy if he beats HHH. Triple H lost to the last 3 people he faced, including Curtis Axel. He lost to Axel via DQ and CO. Not the same. He lost to Undertaker and Brock Lesnar, two of the biggest stars in the entire industry. One of whom he trounced at Mania last year. Bryan has beaten Orton three times. Bryan could beat Batista tomorrow and no one would care.
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Post by The Yes Man on Mar 5, 2014 19:29:07 GMT -5
Triple H lost to the last 3 people he faced, including Curtis Axel. He lost to Axel via DQ and CO. Not the same. He lost to Undertaker and Brock Lesnar, two of the biggest stars in the entire industry. One of whom he trounced at Mania last year. Bryan has beaten Orton three times. Bryan could beat Batista tomorrow and no one would care. You still said HHH rarely loses. Which is false, unless you just mean that he rarely wrestles. It's not about beating Orton and Batista. It's about finally getting the big one at the biggest WrestleMania of all time.
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Post by The Yes Man on Mar 5, 2014 19:31:29 GMT -5
Triple H lost to the last 3 people he faced, including Curtis Axel. I just spent the last 2 minutes watching Bryan knee Cena in the face over and over... The night of SummerSlam after the show ended, as I damn near cried, I skipped back and watched the ending of Bryan vs Cena and the celebration minus the cash in for almost an hour before taking a cold shower.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Mar 6, 2014 0:03:41 GMT -5
Triple H lost to the last 3 people he faced, including Curtis Axel. Everyone posting shovel memes must feel pretty silly to learn this fact.
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