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Post by punksnotdead on Mar 11, 2014 7:28:21 GMT -5
I don't care what the plan was, what was changed, or how wrong or right I was about the situation, Wrestlemania just got exponentially better just by letting one guy compete twice in the same night. That's all I care about.
For the record, I was wrong. I didn't think WWE would put Bryan over Triple H and then let him wrestle again. I'm perfectly ok with that because I want to see it. Glad to be wrong. Yes, I secretly hope Punk does a run-in and helps Bryan win the title. Yes, I think that sounds crazy and probably won't happen, but either way, Bryan's main eventing WrestleMania. So things are as they should be imo.
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Post by metallica90 on Mar 11, 2014 7:53:18 GMT -5
I still have a horrible feeling that Bootista will win the title... God no...
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 11, 2014 7:56:44 GMT -5
The fans didn't force anything. Even if Punk was going to wrestle Triple H at Maina Bryan was always going to be added to the main event. Hell it has been gradually building weekly since Summer Slam. But they have built Bryan perfectly for this. While I would personally like Triple H to win or Orton keep the title as I like both more Bryan the extra match will make him look even that much more credible when he wins. Instead of just overcoming the odds and beating two guys he now does it by beating three larger opponents in two matches on the grandest stage of them all with the show closing to monstrous yes chants. Bryan was straight on his way to joining the Cena/Wyatt feud for WM had Punk not left. That and the fact that the fans have completely craped on Batista since his return. He was brought in as a face and through Elimination Chamber he was pushed as the guy who was going to take down the evil duo of Orton and HHH. When the negative fan reactions got worse and worse they quickly turned him heel. The fans didn't force the WWE into a corner, but they made the WWE think twice about putting on an Orton/Batista main event in 2014 at the biggest show of he year. Its been clear that since Batista returned until Elimination Chamber that that was going to be the WM main event.
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Post by marino13 on Mar 11, 2014 7:57:12 GMT -5
Not saying you're wrong. Maybe you are, maybe you're not? I'm simply saying I don't pretend to know how WWE works or what they have or have not planned. If you want me to spell it out again, I'm sure I could use larger text and smaller words. That's cool bro. I appreciate it when you are being civil about things and not acting like everyone else is stupid, like in this post: forum.wrestlingfigs.com/post/6097408@j12, I agree. It doesn't matter, except for obviously a more sustained build between Batista and Bryan may have been nice. Regardless, one is hated enough and the other loved enough based on circumstance to be an immediate success without any real direct storyline involvement between the two. I'm incredibly interested to watch RAW in the next few weeks, and see the dynamic that they have with Bryan trying to build two main event matches at once. They will probably focus more on the Authority (HHH) storyline and just have Hunter team up with Orton and Tista to best Bryan, but obviously there needs to be tension between those two guys also. It's rushed, it's messy.. but that's not an altogether bad thing. It'll make for some interesting television at the very least.. and hopefully a fantastic Mania. That, on top of the fact that Lesnar/Taker should be good.. and Bray vs Cena, which I personally am incredibly stoked for.. could make a memorable Wrestlemania. Lord knows we deserve one at this point. After Bryan beats HHH and gets inserted into the title match, I hope HHH announces he is also part of the title match. How good would this be? Just imagine a backstage promo between a pissed off Vince, Steph and Hunter, pacing back and forth.. telling Vince he wants to go in the Title match and then being added. The final injustice.. Bryan earns the shot, HHH just takes it. They could be talking about how Bryan can't become their Champion, win the night at their biggest show, be the face of their company.. and Vince, angry as ever, could just say something as simple as 'Stop him' to Hunter.. and it would be an incredible build for the main event. The possibilities are endless. I love this roster. I just hope the real winners are the right people. Funny thing is... it was never intended as an insult. Some people love the slow build. The old school way of doing things. Many others would rather everything be rushed and have it immediately. I was simply saying those who know how it's done properly will enjoy this storyline. I believe others got that, judging by the "likes". This one the other hand sounds most definitely like an insult... I wish the admins would set a teenage forum up for you guys and only let the intelligent teenage fans come over here. I know there's plenty of them, shame you're not included. Just saying.
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Post by BulletV1 on Mar 11, 2014 8:15:19 GMT -5
Can we just take a second and thank the crowd that showed up in Pittsburgh at the Rumble, and every crowd there after for mercilessly crapping on Batista/Orton and forcing WWE's hand <0> \0/
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Post by xxr23 on Mar 11, 2014 9:39:07 GMT -5
Lol at peeps praising wwe when in reality it's the fans that derisive the credit. Had it not been for CM Punk walking out and the fans not reacting to the way wwe expected to a Batista return. Daniel Bryan would be in Christian spot right now in a feud with Sheamus.
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Post by bababooey on Mar 11, 2014 9:47:32 GMT -5
There were some on here who kept saying they were laying the groundwork. Be patient. And that it would all be worth it in the long run. But oh no, "WWE doesn't listen to their fans", "They don't care", and my personal favorite... "I'll never watch again!". Now that's just funny. Turns out WWE knows exactly how to run a company after all! Now in about a month or so, the "Daniel Bryan isn't that great" threads will start.
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Post by The Yes Man on Mar 11, 2014 10:11:03 GMT -5
Uhm.. yes.
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Post by J12 on Mar 11, 2014 10:15:16 GMT -5
I can't believe there are people that are still entirely unwilling to give WWE any credit in this scenario.
Yeah, it probably was slapped together because of fan reaction. But maybe it wasn't. Similarly to Punk, we have no idea. We're not going to have any idea. And again, who cares?
WWE did a fantastic job building the Bryan/Triple H rivalry over the course of several months. Even if things got a little sloppy, this is one of the first long-term, large-payoff angles we've had in recent years (Rock/Cena hardly counts because Rock was never around.) The payoff was always to win the Championship, and now it looks like it's going to happen.
It just leads me to wonder, what would have been the right way to handle it, for those that don't like this? Was there one? Or is it all just moot because Bryan was "buried"?
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Post by Gazza on Mar 11, 2014 11:14:34 GMT -5
Wouldn't surprise me if it was WWE's plan all along. If you think they didn't know that fans would be pissed that Bryan didn't win the rumble then you're insane.
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Post by Zigzag on Mar 11, 2014 11:37:29 GMT -5
My two cents...
If they just made the Bryan-H match at Mania, and no stipulations, that would've been one thing. However, going to the trouble of mentioning the main event stip, and having Triple H agree to it, tells me that they plan to see this through. If they didn't want to give Bryan his Mania moment, they would've just made the match with Triple H, and win or lose, that would've been the end of that angle. But in my opinion, you can't tease the main event condition without at least putting him in the match. I believe he will win the title. How long he'll hold onto it after that, is anyone's guess. Ideally, I'd love to see him keep it a few months, and feud over it with Cesaro.
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Post by BCizzle on Mar 11, 2014 12:04:54 GMT -5
The fans didn't force anything. Even if Punk was going to wrestle Triple H at Maina Bryan was always going to be added to the main event. Hell it has been gradually building weekly since Summer Slam. But they have built Bryan perfectly for this. I'm sorry, but I think you're delusional. They brought back Batista as a conquering hero and it failed. They turned Daniel Bryan heel and it failed so badly they changed it after two weeks. They put the Big Show in a title match and it failed. They put Cena in a title match and the fans didn't care. They have been doing everything they can to NOT have Daniel Bryan in the main event for the title at WM - but the fans have been buying none of it. So they finally gave in to what the fans want. Maybe he'll lose to Big Nose at Mania. Maybe he'll lose in the main event. Maybe he'll get the belt and get a weak ass crappy title run like Rey or the Crippla or another guy management wasn't fully behind.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 12:15:06 GMT -5
I hope hhh kills bryan in 17 seconds. Kick to the stomach pedigree 123 it's over Never hear from bryan again.
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Mar 11, 2014 12:23:40 GMT -5
Anybody remember the rumored matches for WM 30 from a few months ago? The one that had Bryan vs Sheamus? Some of those storylines were probably established around WM 29 or before. Then the Fall of 2013 saw a very hot WWE lose Cena to an injury and the storylines begin falling apart. They scrambled to fit things together and a lot didn't make much sense. Then the Rumble came and Batista came back. They HAD to have some kind of back up plan in case the fans decided to boo him. Maybe Sheamus was going to join the Authority and that was part of Bryan's mega push? Then Punk leaves and it's another scramble to make sense of where they go to WM 30.
As it's been said, I think Bryan's "moment" is better saved for 'Mania. This is for the best, regardless of how they got there.
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Post by J12 on Mar 11, 2014 12:29:11 GMT -5
The fans didn't force anything. Even if Punk was going to wrestle Triple H at Maina Bryan was always going to be added to the main event. Hell it has been gradually building weekly since Summer Slam. But they have built Bryan perfectly for this. I'm sorry, but I think you're delusional. They brought back Batista as a conquering hero and it failed. They turned Daniel Bryan heel and it failed so badly they changed it after two weeks. They put the Big Show in a title match and it failed. They put Cena in a title match and the fans didn't care. They have been doing everything they can to NOT have Daniel Bryan in the main event for the title at WM - but the fans have been buying none of it. So they finally gave in to what the fans want. Maybe he'll lose to Big Nose at Mania. Maybe he'll lose in the main event. Maybe he'll get the belt and get a weak ass crappy title run like Rey or the Crippla or another guy management wasn't fully behind. To be fair, I don't think they were ever committing to a heel turn. I understand the differing opinions over whether the title situation was all planned or not, which is fine, but I can't possibly believe they were going to run with Bryan as a heel for any significant length of time given the reactions he was pulling. I think the end result we got (Bryan turning on Bray) was the plan all along, they just rushed it because Bryan started getting mainstream media attention and WWE doesn't like to ignore that. It may have been an attempt at quelling his momentum, but I don't believe for a second that they were actually going to run with it long-term.
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Post by PJ on Mar 11, 2014 12:36:27 GMT -5
The fans didn't force anything. Even if Punk was going to wrestle Triple H at Maina Bryan was always going to be added to the main event. Hell it has been gradually building weekly since Summer Slam. But they have built Bryan perfectly for this. I'm sorry, but I think you're delusional. They brought back Batista as a conquering hero and it failed. They turned Daniel Bryan heel and it failed so badly they changed it after two weeks. They put the Big Show in a title match and it failed. They put Cena in a title match and the fans didn't care. They have been doing everything they can to NOT have Daniel Bryan in the main event for the title at WM - but the fans have been buying none of it. So they finally gave in to what the fans want. Maybe he'll lose to Big Nose at Mania. Maybe he'll lose in the main event. Maybe he'll get the belt and get a weak ass crappy title run like Rey or the Crippla or another guy management wasn't fully behind. I guess you weren't watching the same thing I've been watching. Since Summer Slam they (wwe) were building Bryan and the yes movement on a weekly basis. The so called heel turn with the Wytts was beautiful because at the end of the cage match on RAW the WWE had the fans in the palm of their hands with the "yes movement". Because when RAW went off the air the "Yes movement" was solidified. Bryan was always headed for the Main Event at Mania. All Punk's leaving did was give Bryan another match at Mania...making his hype even that much more. Was Batista supposed to be a face? Sure but the way the WWE were building up Bryan's popularity there's no way he wasn't going to be in the title match. As for what his title run will be depends on if his talent keeps the fans interested. If he doesn't sell out venues then he will lose the title. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
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Post by Road Warriors on Mar 11, 2014 13:35:02 GMT -5
I hope hhh kills bryan in 17 seconds. Kick to the stomach pedigree 123 it's over Never hear from bryan again. LOL I have a feeling your going to be in for many long months of misery with Bryan as Champion.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 13:39:12 GMT -5
I hope hhh kills bryan in 17 seconds. Kick to the stomach pedigree 123 it's over Never hear from bryan again. LOL I have a feeling your going to be in for many long months of misery with Bryan as Champion. I hope not. I think once he wins all the hype will fade and so will bryan
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Post by Road Warriors on Mar 11, 2014 13:42:11 GMT -5
LOL I have a feeling your going to be in for many long months of misery with Bryan as Champion. I hope not. I think once he wins all the hype will fade and so will bryan Don't see that happening buddy. WWE is putting all there eggs into the Bryan basket. As it sits right now he will be the guy for at least the next year. The WWE wants to reward him for always doing the right thing and being strong and loyal.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 13:43:48 GMT -5
I hope not. I think once he wins all the hype will fade and so will bryan Don't see that happening buddy. WWE is putting all there eggs into the Bryan basket. As it sits right now he will be the guy for at least the next year. At least I can watch wwe network then lol.
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