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Post by speaktomeworriers on Mar 18, 2014 20:57:48 GMT -5
Well, Thats why when I ask a seller about shipping to Canada, I always tell them i dont mind paying for tracking, it gives me peace of mind to know the package is insured, and the seller has peace of mind that I cant say I never got it, unless i never got it... I dont mind paying for shipping if i really want it, but 70% of the sellers out there, charge you alot more than what shipping is, and dont have the decency to refund you if they know it cost alot less than what you paid, and the shipping cost is usually posted right on the package, so its not like we dont know how much they paid... but anyways, not trying to make an argument, just tellin you how i feel about it, and i know the customs on GSP doesnt go to the seller, I was just saying how dumb the prgram is, because we usually do not have to pay the customs, so they are forcing us to pay it no matter what, and odds are, if customs wants us to pay, they will make us pay for the package twice before we get it...... Would just much more simple if ppl would just say, I ONLY SHIP WITH TRACKING...they would sell more, they would get less "I didnt receive items" and ppl all over the world will have the same oppurtunities to buy an item that the Americans do... The shipping part of Sellers I dont really put all the blame on them, its 10 per cent them, 80% The postal service Ramming it up your ass, and 10 percent buyers trying to scam the sellers The shipping price may be on the package, but do you ever consider the bubble wrap costs the shipper $ also the bubble envelope costs $. I'm not defending people who over charge. I'm just saying there is other cost more than what actual shipping costs. oh yes, i do realize other things cost money, I have sold enough on ebay, but really, its the sellers choice to sell on ebay, they know going into it, that they will have to ship all their items out, I am not saying sellers should lose money, but before they sell something, they should take into consideration, what it costs to ship, and realize that the buyer isnt responsible for buying the package the item comes in...sometimes when the package comes in, I have to go to the post office to pick it up, does the seller care that I may have to waste my gas to go pick it up?
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Post by The Mask of Truth on Mar 18, 2014 21:00:39 GMT -5
Actually lowball offers or deadbeat buyers grind my gears.
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Post by speaktomeworriers on Mar 18, 2014 21:03:41 GMT -5
Actually lowball offers or deadbeat buyers grind my gears. I agree with this as well, if you are going to bid on something, pay for it
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 21:09:24 GMT -5
The shipping price may be on the package, but do you ever consider the bubble wrap costs the shipper $ also the bubble envelope costs $. I'm not defending people who over charge. I'm just saying there is other cost more than what actual shipping costs. oh yes, i do realize other things cost money, I have sold enough on ebay, but really, its the sellers choice to sell on ebay, they know going into it, that they will have to ship all their items out, I am not saying sellers should lose money, but before they sell something, they should take into consideration, what it costs to ship, and realize that the buyer isnt responsible for buying the package the item comes in...sometimes when the package comes in, I have to go to the post office to pick it up, does the seller care that I may have to waste my gas to go pick it up? I couldn't disagree more if I have to buy a envelope I'm not coming out of my pocket for it. If that means the buyer don't want to buy from me then no problem. Also that shot about your gas was pointless and like comparing apples to oranges.
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Post by speaktomeworriers on Mar 18, 2014 21:37:15 GMT -5
oh yes, i do realize other things cost money, I have sold enough on ebay, but really, its the sellers choice to sell on ebay, they know going into it, that they will have to ship all their items out, I am not saying sellers should lose money, but before they sell something, they should take into consideration, what it costs to ship, and realize that the buyer isnt responsible for buying the package the item comes in...sometimes when the package comes in, I have to go to the post office to pick it up, does the seller care that I may have to waste my gas to go pick it up? I couldn't disagree more if I have to buy a envelope I'm not coming out of my pocket for it. If that means the buyer don't want to buy from me then no problem. Also that shot about your gas was pointless and like comparing apples to oranges. Well, not really, Why should the buyer rack up ALL the bills from this transaction? Just because your selling it, and we are buying it? And the whole point is, if you are going to charge for the envelope and the bubble wrap, you say that in your listing, if your listing just says "Shipping Charges" then we expect to only pay shipping , if we have to pay for the envelope and the bubblewrap, and the gas and your time and the dog buscuit you had to give your dog so you could leave the house, then put that in your listing, break down the cost so we know what we are paying for, and if we decide to pay that price for it, then we do... I am not complaining about the actual shipping charges, obviously we have to pay it, I am bitching about the sellers, and not all of them, but the select few, who decide to over charge the shipping because they want to make a little bit extra on the side. And its not comparing apples to oranges, if the buyer has to pay gas to pick up the item, why shouldnt the seller pay his own gas to ship the item? Just remember, Ebay is a "Store" and the customer is always right
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 2:09:39 GMT -5
I have gotten most of my best deals on Ebay......I had some bad transactions but they are so few and far between, you just need to do your research on the seller your buying from....some people see the item and just bid or BIN without looking at the feedback....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 5:28:20 GMT -5
I don't usually shop on eBay too much anymore, but I was perusing Elite Shawn Michaels just for curiosity's sake and saw that someone has one of the new WMXXX ones with the stomach hair up for $199. First thing I thought was - you gotta be ing kidding me; no one's is gonna pay that much. As much as people have **** themselves about it on the Mattel board I wouldn't be surprised if they sold it for that.
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Post by Halloween King on Mar 19, 2014 8:48:47 GMT -5
Actually lowball offers or deadbeat buyers grind my gears. See this is what I mean by Ebay is totally for the buyers. If someone doesnt pay for something all I can do is file a case with Ebay in hopes that they dont charge me fees for something the buyer didnt pay for. I can not leave a negative. Where as if they buyer is unhappy in the slightest way then they negative feedback no matter what.
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Post by brick on Mar 19, 2014 8:59:25 GMT -5
The shipping price may be on the package, but do you ever consider the bubble wrap costs the shipper $ also the bubble envelope costs $. I'm not defending people who over charge. I'm just saying there is other cost more than what actual shipping costs. oh yes, i do realize other things cost money, I have sold enough on ebay, but really, its the sellers choice to sell on ebay, they know going into it, that they will have to ship all their items out, I am not saying sellers should lose money, but before they sell something, they should take into consideration, what it costs to ship, and realize that the buyer isnt responsible for buying the package the item comes in...sometimes when the package comes in, I have to go to the post office to pick it up, does the seller care that I may have to waste my gas to go pick it up? And it's your choice to buy on eBay. Everyone loves a great deal, but you can't have it all. It sounds like you expect all eBay sellers to post items at bargain prices, then eat most of the expenses that come with selling and shipping an item. What's the point of going through the hassle of selling something on eBay if you end up taking a loss, unless it's just something you really want to unload? The following things are not free to an eBay seller: - Cost to ship item - Cost of shipping supplies - eBay final value fee - PayPal transaction fee - eBay shipping fee (yes, eBay now charges a fee for both the item sold price and what the seller charges for shipping).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 9:06:13 GMT -5
Just looked on eBay for a RA Big Daddy V, and the guy thought the fact of him passing away would jack up the price. Starting bid was &149.99!! The worst part: it didn't come with the singlet.
Some people..
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Post by speaktomeworriers on Mar 19, 2014 9:40:37 GMT -5
oh yes, i do realize other things cost money, I have sold enough on ebay, but really, its the sellers choice to sell on ebay, they know going into it, that they will have to ship all their items out, I am not saying sellers should lose money, but before they sell something, they should take into consideration, what it costs to ship, and realize that the buyer isnt responsible for buying the package the item comes in...sometimes when the package comes in, I have to go to the post office to pick it up, does the seller care that I may have to waste my gas to go pick it up? And it's your choice to buy on eBay. Everyone loves a great deal, but you can't have it all. It sounds like you expect all eBay sellers to post items at bargain prices, then eat most of the expenses that come with selling and shipping an item. What's the point of going through the hassle of selling something on eBay if you end up taking a loss, unless it's just something you really want to unload? The following things are not free to an eBay seller: - Cost to ship item - Cost of shipping supplies - eBay final value fee - PayPal transaction fee - eBay shipping fee (yes, eBay now charges a fee for both the item sold price and what the seller charges for shipping). See, I think thats something Sellers and yourself included do not understand, Ebay charges the Seller these fees, When you decide to sell something on ebay, You know these fees exist, so its your choice to sell, if the buyer is expected to pay these fees, it would be called BUYER FEES, not SELLER FEES...You guys know what its going to cost to sell on ebay, so Its YOUR choice to sell and ACCEPT those fees, doesnt mean the buyer should pay more because Ebay charges you. I know I ramble, But I dont think you actual read what I wrote before you decided to answer back, which is kind of disrespectful... Not ONCE did I say I wanted a BARGAIN, And I said Sellers should Pay for the ebay Fees, yes, because they agreed to it, once they decided to open a listing, Why do sellers expect the buyer to pay all their fees? The seller is using Ebays service to sell their stuff, and as I stated before, when you decide to list something, you know you have to ship it in some kind of package, so, if you dont think you will make any money selling something, then just dont sell it...and this thread isnt about Shipping anyways, as I said before as well, I know we have to pay shipping no matter what, and when I talk about the sellers who over charge for shipping, i dont mean the ones who charge an extra 3-5 dollars, thats fine, that covers the envelope and bubble wrap, what gets me, is some of them say well, its also My TIME to ship it, Like WTF? YOU WANT TO SELL IT, THEN YOU TAKE THE TIME TO SHIP IT. So back to the Bargain thing, you think I want, NO, not at all, but its normal to expect DECENT prices, dont insult me by Charging 50 bucks for a mattel Basic William Regal Arm, That is wrong on so many levels, thats called a Seller trying to take advantage of the few Morons out there that will Bite and pay that price...So you Get on my case for wanting a decent price, but you dont think anything is wrong with the seller overcharging and taking advantage of the Ebay morons? and take a look on ebay, you will see alot of sellers Jacking up prices, thats what this Thread is about...try not to focus on Shipping
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Post by brick on Mar 19, 2014 11:44:44 GMT -5
You didn't need to say you wanted a bargain; it seems apparent by a lot of your points. I don't disagree that there are some real hucksters on eBay, seeing if they can get suckers to bite. But for the most part, any semi-regular or full-time eBay seller has to consider those expenses I mentioned, unless they don't mind breaking even or losing money, in which case, they probably won't last long.
Sellers DO accept the fees I mentioned, but please don't think that businesses all over pass along some overhead charges to the consumer. Any smart business person has to consider the overhead costs, and unfortunately, it usually means passing some of those costs on to the consumer. That's just business.
Take for instance the guy mentioned here selling the HBK Elite with stomach hair for $200. I agree that's a crazy price, but anyone familiar with him knows he's well reputed around here. He can offer some great deals, but he works some magic with "free" shipping and "sales." He probably wouldn't last very long if he were doing those things and not factoring in those eBay expenses I mentioned into his prices. I've noticed, for instance, that a lot of his items are priced pretty high compared to the going rate. But slap on the free shipping tag and the inevitable "sale," and people buy, buy, buy. The buyer is happy to have gotten a discount and free shipping, while the seller still turns a profit even after eating shipping costs, because he priced it high enough to include overhead expenses (including "free shipping!").
And where's this William Regal arm you keep mentioning? It feels like an extreme exaggeration.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 19, 2014 11:56:10 GMT -5
Simple solution: If you have a problem with the price....here's a thought....DON'T BUY IT!!! Don't start crying about how expensive something is and how it SHOULD be cheaper. If an item is too high, it won't sell. The seller has no obligation to sell something for what YOU consider to be a good value. Also, if sellers want to make extra on shipping by listing the auction at a lower price, that's their prerogative. Yes, I have come across many auctions that I have found ludicrous, I just don't bother bidding. I don't get all bent out of shape about being "insulted". It would be childish to do so. The seller's job is to sell their goods for the highest price and make the most money, not to make people happy by taking a loss or selling for less than what they deem to be a good value. If a seller can make a killing on something, more power to them. The buyer obviously wanted the item enough to pay the price. I have some high auctions up, mostly because the item is something I don't necessarily want to part with, but will do so for the right price. Conversely, others I just want to make a few bucks and list low enough to sell quickly. You as the buyer have the ability to choose with whom you do business.
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Post by speaktomeworriers on Mar 19, 2014 12:08:39 GMT -5
Simple solution: If you have a problem with the price....here's a thought....DON'T BUY IT!!! Don't start crying about how expensive something is and how it SHOULD be cheaper. If an item is too high, it won't sell. The seller has no obligation to sell something for what YOU consider to be a good value. Also, if sellers want to make extra on shipping by listing the auction at a lower price, that's their prerogative. Yes, I have come across many auctions that I have found ludicrous, I just don't bother bidding. I don't get all bent out of shape about being "insulted". It would be childish to do so. The seller's job is to sell their goods for the highest price and make the most money, not to make people happy by taking a loss or selling for less than what they deem to be a good value. If a seller can make a killing on something, more power to them. The buyer obviously wanted the item enough to pay the price. I have some high auctions up, mostly because the item is something I don't necessarily want to part with, but will do so for the right price. Conversely, others I just want to make a few bucks and list low enough to sell quickly. You as the buyer have the ability to choose with whom you do business. Thx for the advice, I wasnt aware I didnt have to buy it, Glad you cleared that up for me... From the ebay policies... As an eBay seller, providing excellent customer service should be your top priority. You're expected to: Charge reasonable shipping and handling costs. ( I dont think "make extra on shipping by listing the auction at a lower price, that's their prerogative" is a very reasonable shipping and handling charge?) Maybe try this.. List the auction at what you want for the item, and charge ACTUAL shipping? hmmmm its a stretch but it just might work. And i dont know about you but i live in a world where I can cry and moan about anything i want, from ebay sellers to shawn micheals stomach hair I never said this is how its gonna be or the world wont spin...I decided to start a thread about what I hate about ebay sellers, I am allowed to think what I want, if you think there is nothing wrong with ebay seller prices, all the power to you, this is more a thread for ppl who dont like ebay seller prices, if you want, you can go right ahead and make a thread about how great ebay sellers are, and I will go argue with you on that thread
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 19, 2014 12:42:36 GMT -5
Simple solution: If you have a problem with the price....here's a thought....DON'T BUY IT!!! Don't start crying about how expensive something is and how it SHOULD be cheaper. If an item is too high, it won't sell. The seller has no obligation to sell something for what YOU consider to be a good value. Also, if sellers want to make extra on shipping by listing the auction at a lower price, that's their prerogative. Yes, I have come across many auctions that I have found ludicrous, I just don't bother bidding. I don't get all bent out of shape about being "insulted". It would be childish to do so. The seller's job is to sell their goods for the highest price and make the most money, not to make people happy by taking a loss or selling for less than what they deem to be a good value. If a seller can make a killing on something, more power to them. The buyer obviously wanted the item enough to pay the price. I have some high auctions up, mostly because the item is something I don't necessarily want to part with, but will do so for the right price. Conversely, others I just want to make a few bucks and list low enough to sell quickly. You as the buyer have the ability to choose with whom you do business. Thx for the advice, I wasnt aware I didnt have to buy it, Glad you cleared that up for me... From the ebay policies... As an eBay seller, providing excellent customer service should be your top priority. You're expected to: Charge reasonable shipping and handling costs. ( I dont think "make extra on shipping by listing the auction at a lower price, that's their prerogative" is a very reasonable shipping and handling charge?) Maybe try this.. List the auction at what you want for the item, and charge ACTUAL shipping? hmmmm its a stretch but it just might work. And i dont know about you but i live in a world where I can cry and moan about anything i want, from ebay sellers to shawn micheals stomach hair I never said this is how its gonna be or the world wont spin...I decided to start a thread about what I hate about ebay sellers, I am allowed to think what I want, if you think there is nothing wrong with ebay seller prices, all the power to you, this is more a thread for ppl who dont like ebay seller prices, if you want, you can go right ahead and make a thread about how great ebay sellers are, and I will go argue with you on that thread So you admit you just want to cry and whine without any regard to facts. That's fine. I guess I should expect that from someone who obviously can't read even at a first grade level; I said that I list high if I don't necessarily want to part with something, but will for the right price, and I never said that all sellers are great. I am just giving you another point of view. FACT: Don't like the price? Nobody has a gun to your head making you bid. YOUR OPINION: Prycez beez 2 hye, and eyem reel reel mad. Cellerz suxx!! There is a difference that your feeble mind obviously can't process. If you want to continue living in your ignorant bubble where people don't question you, that's your problem. You're welcome for the insight.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 12:49:50 GMT -5
Simple solution: If you have a problem with the price....here's a thought....DON'T BUY IT!!! Don't start crying about how expensive something is and how it SHOULD be cheaper. If an item is too high, it won't sell. The seller has no obligation to sell something for what YOU consider to be a good value. Also, if sellers want to make extra on shipping by listing the auction at a lower price, that's their prerogative. Yes, I have come across many auctions that I have found ludicrous, I just don't bother bidding. I don't get all bent out of shape about being "insulted". It would be childish to do so. The seller's job is to sell their goods for the highest price and make the most money, not to make people happy by taking a loss or selling for less than what they deem to be a good value. If a seller can make a killing on something, more power to them. The buyer obviously wanted the item enough to pay the price. I have some high auctions up, mostly because the item is something I don't necessarily want to part with, but will do so for the right price. Conversely, others I just want to make a few bucks and list low enough to sell quickly. You as the buyer have the ability to choose with whom you do business. Thx for the advice, I wasnt aware I didnt have to buy it, Glad you cleared that up for me... From the ebay policies... As an eBay seller, providing excellent customer service should be your top priority. You're expected to: Charge reasonable shipping and handling costs. ( I dont think "make extra on shipping by listing the auction at a lower price, that's their prerogative" is a very reasonable shipping and handling charge?) Maybe try this.. List the auction at what you want for the item, and charge ACTUAL shipping? hmmmm its a stretch but it just might work. And i dont know about you but i live in a world where I can cry and moan about anything i want, from ebay sellers to shawn micheals stomach hair I never said this is how its gonna be or the world wont spin...I decided to start a thread about what I hate about ebay sellers, I am allowed to think what I want, if you think there is nothing wrong with ebay seller prices, all the power to you, this is more a thread for ppl who dont like ebay seller prices, if you want, you can go right ahead and make a thread about how great ebay sellers are, and I will go argue with you on that thread So anybody who doesn't agree with you is wrong?
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Post by speaktomeworriers on Mar 19, 2014 13:23:28 GMT -5
Thx for the advice, I wasnt aware I didnt have to buy it, Glad you cleared that up for me... From the ebay policies... As an eBay seller, providing excellent customer service should be your top priority. You're expected to: Charge reasonable shipping and handling costs. ( I dont think "make extra on shipping by listing the auction at a lower price, that's their prerogative" is a very reasonable shipping and handling charge?) Maybe try this.. List the auction at what you want for the item, and charge ACTUAL shipping? hmmmm its a stretch but it just might work. And i dont know about you but i live in a world where I can cry and moan about anything i want, from ebay sellers to shawn micheals stomach hair I never said this is how its gonna be or the world wont spin...I decided to start a thread about what I hate about ebay sellers, I am allowed to think what I want, if you think there is nothing wrong with ebay seller prices, all the power to you, this is more a thread for ppl who dont like ebay seller prices, if you want, you can go right ahead and make a thread about how great ebay sellers are, and I will go argue with you on that thread So anybody who doesn't agree with you is wrong? Mr. Bill Maxwell Sayz me cants read at first grade level, so me no understoody what you mean? Whenz did I say ppl who no think like me think is bad mammas? I said free world, I start thread for what me think is wrong, if you dont agree you can start thread about how me is wrong, I no ask for anyone to come in here and prove me wrong, I ask ppl to come in here if they want to hear why i hate ebay sellers, if you no understand rulz..please take exit closest to you, and make own thread about how ppl are wrong about ebay sellers...thank you
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Post by speaktomeworriers on Mar 19, 2014 13:42:27 GMT -5
Thx for the advice, I wasnt aware I didnt have to buy it, Glad you cleared that up for me... From the ebay policies... As an eBay seller, providing excellent customer service should be your top priority. You're expected to: Charge reasonable shipping and handling costs. ( I dont think "make extra on shipping by listing the auction at a lower price, that's their prerogative" is a very reasonable shipping and handling charge?) Maybe try this.. List the auction at what you want for the item, and charge ACTUAL shipping? hmmmm its a stretch but it just might work. And i dont know about you but i live in a world where I can cry and moan about anything i want, from ebay sellers to shawn micheals stomach hair I never said this is how its gonna be or the world wont spin...I decided to start a thread about what I hate about ebay sellers, I am allowed to think what I want, if you think there is nothing wrong with ebay seller prices, all the power to you, this is more a thread for ppl who dont like ebay seller prices, if you want, you can go right ahead and make a thread about how great ebay sellers are, and I will go argue with you on that thread So you admit you just want to cry and whine without any regard to facts. That's fine. I guess I should expect that from someone who obviously can't read even at a first grade level; I said that I list high if I don't necessarily want to part with something, but will for the right price, and I never said that all sellers are great. I am just giving you another point of view. FACT: Don't like the price? Nobody has a gun to your head making you bid. YOUR OPINION: Prycez beez 2 hye, and eyem reel reel mad. Cellerz suxx!! There is a difference that your feeble mind obviously can't process. If you want to continue living in your ignorant bubble where people don't question you, that's your problem. You're welcome for the insight. you surezzzz I am the one who cant read?, because I am pretty sure in my reply, i wrote "Maybe try this.. List the auction at what you want for the item" for someone with education higher than Grade 1, I am pretty sure that means ASK AS MUCH AS YOU WANT, What dont you understand here? I made this thread to complain about the fact sellers overcharge most of the time, I didnt make this thread to DEMAND that you stop, FACT: Most sellers Jack up their prices YOUR OPINION: D'uh if you dont like it dont bid on it, and make sure you dont have an opinion about it, because we have no freedom of speech.... Jesus Christ man, This Thread is MY OPINION, if you dont like it, get the F out??? If you read my first post, I never once said "I would like anyone who disagrees with me to state their opinion" NOOOOOO I typed out what I hate about Ebay sellers, GET OVER IT, you guys say I am ignorant, I never once said your arguments were WRONG, I never once said your opinions were WRONG...But you guys cant help yourselves to argue because "I am wrong" and make very Mature comments ..."YOUR OPINION: Prycez beez 2 hye, and eyem reel reel mad. Cellerz suxx!! There is a difference that your feeble mind obviously can't process"...very mature, you cant even Argue your point without having to make fun of someone..I dont recall calling any of you guys stupid because of your opinions....so lets think about this feeble mind for a bit
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 18:41:04 GMT -5
Ebay is fine to me money isn't a problem.
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Post by JC Motors on Mar 19, 2014 21:33:26 GMT -5
My aunt is trying to sell a genuine mink coat for $5,000. People just keep lowballing her on the coat to the point where she got so disgusted and took it off eBay
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