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Post by TheWrestleGeek on Apr 18, 2014 12:39:13 GMT -5
Former TNA Star Jesse Neal sent out a tweet today saying he makes more money at Walmart then he did working at TNA, and that he actually gets paid on time at Walmart. Neal is best known for his time in TNA working along side with Shannon Moore in the tag team Ink Inc. Neal left TNA after refusing to go to OVW for more training, per request of former TNA Executive Bruce Prichard.
"It's funny how ppl make fun about real jobs and wrestlers we r human too and I have a family to provide for. So YES I man up and provide"
"The biggest joke of all is I get paid way more at Walmart then I ever did in TNA and on time. #whatawasteoftime #PrintThat"
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Post by sean™ on Apr 18, 2014 12:46:08 GMT -5
I imagine I've spent more money at WalMart than he got paid by TNA.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 12:52:11 GMT -5
LOL
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Post by Scotty on Apr 18, 2014 13:18:35 GMT -5
I don't want to defend TNA, but I really don't see how you can compare the two.
Jesse is working a daily job with a set wage.
When signed to TNA, I'm pretty sure he was signed to a pay per wrestle deal, meaning if he wasn't wrestling he wasn't paid (Showstopper or Dutt or somebody else can correct this if I'm wrong). Jesse was a jobber and I'm pretty sure he was sporadically used. Of course he isn't going to make as much as he would working 8 or so hours a day.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 13:54:13 GMT -5
I don't want to defend TNA, but I really don't see how you can compare the two. Jesse is working a daily job with a set wage. When signed to TNA, I'm pretty sure he was signed to a pay per wrestle deal, meaning if he wasn't wrestling he wasn't paid (Showstopper or Dutt or somebody else can correct this if I'm wrong). Jesse was a jobber and I'm pretty sure he was sporadically used. Of course he isn't going to make as much as he would working 8 or so hours a day. Yeah but its  ing Walmart. One TNA appearance should be more than a days work at Walmart. |
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Post by Tye Hyll on Apr 18, 2014 14:04:27 GMT -5
If TNA paid like trash that would be fine. IF they didnt contract their guys, but they do, which is garbage. Everyone on that roster should be making a minimum of 30K a year but TNA pretends to have more money than it does and its talent suffers from it.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 18, 2014 14:58:15 GMT -5
I call total ing BULL crap on he makes more money at Walmart. Walmart is ing notoriously cheap. He hasnt been there that long, so he is barely making more than min. wage which is like $7.25 an hour. Even at $8 an hour, he would make $16,640 a year at Walmart. There is ZERO chance he made less than that at TNA. TJ Perkins recently was interviewed and said he makes like $64,000 a year and he is one of the lowest paid guys. Jesse is an awesome guy. Mad respect for him. But he wasnt very good in the ring and needed a lot more work. His best days were when he was teaming with Shannon, but Shannon was on his way out. The tag team was dissolved and Neal's short comings could no longer just be ignored. I cna understand his desire not to relocate to OVW. Dude lives in Florida and no way was TNA gonna pay for him to relocate. But lets not act like you were some top tier talent being paid peanuts and Walmart pays more than TNA. This makes you look foolish and just feeds the internet trolls that want to bash TNA at every single corner. There is plenty to bash TNA for....THIS.....not one of them. In addition, TNA allows for independent bookings to help supplement income because TNA does NOT pay as much as WWE. This gives TNA talent a chance to earn additional income when they do not have TNA obligations. Not everyone takes advantage of it for one reason or another. And some are unable to secure outside bookings because they are not considered a valuable enough commodity. I looked into booking Jesse, but to be honest his fee plus air fare and hotel made NO sense being that I am in PA. Jesse is someone who needed to garner local bookings and probably had a bit of a tough time in doing so. So whatever he was being paid in TNA wasnt being supplemented and when he was released, he needed to start from scratch in trying to build himself an independent career. But his stock dropped once he left TNA. Mad respect for the guy for working....anywhere to provide food for him family. Its what a man does. But its always bitter people that seem to tweet this nonsense. |
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Post by sean™ on Apr 18, 2014 15:22:18 GMT -5
Well, at least the president of the company never told him they'd "take care of him" after he broke his neck wrestling for said company, only to eventually fire him. Now that would be a ****y thing to do.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 18, 2014 15:26:37 GMT -5
Well, at least the president of the company never told him they'd "take care of him" after he broke his neck wrestling for said company, only to eventually fire him. Now that would be a ****y thing to do. Right. Cuz I'll take care of you means you get to have a job forever.  |
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Post by TheXtremisT on Apr 18, 2014 15:32:18 GMT -5
Yeah don't believe this for 1 second. Min wage job pays more than wrestling company? I could believe TNA pays lower than should be expected, but no way they pay min wage.
Dude was mildly entertaining with Moore, interesting look, but had s*it charisma. He couldn't get over at all.
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Post by sean™ on Apr 18, 2014 15:58:00 GMT -5
Well, at least the president of the company never told him they'd "take care of him" after he broke his neck wrestling for said company, only to eventually fire him. Now that would be a ****y thing to do. Right. Cuz I'll take care of you means you get to have a job forever. You're right. It doesn't. It does, however, imply that you'd actually assist in some way in paying for said injury. Paying someone a salary of $30,000 a year, only to have a majority of it go towards the medical bills that the company stated that would assist with only to send back to said wrestler isn't exactly an act of kindness. They didn't have to give him a job for life, like say Droz in WWF/E. They could have either A. Given him a job that could have actually assisted him in paying the bills they stated they would "take care of" or B. Just paid the bills they said they would "take care of". I don't even know why we are debating this, considering it's a debate about other people's words and lives that neither of us have a way of truly knowing. Neither of us work for TNA, or had a hand in any of these situations. I can't speak to your evidence regarding the cost of booking Jesse Neal, but you can't speak to the amount that he was actually paid by TNA. So this whole conversation is pointless. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 18, 2014 16:10:47 GMT -5
Right. Cuz I'll take care of you means you get to have a job forever. You're right. It doesn't. It does, however, imply that you'd actually assist in some way in paying for said injury. Paying someone a salary of $30,000 a year, only to have a majority of it go towards the medical bills that the company stated that would assist with only to send back to said wrestler isn't exactly an act of kindness. They didn't have to give him a job for life, like say Droz in WWF/E. They could have either A. Given him a job that could have actually assisted him in paying the bills they stated they would "take care of" or B. Just paid the bills they said they would "take care of". I don't even know why we are debating this, considering it's a debate about other people's words and lives that neither of us have a way of truly knowing. Neither of us work for TNA, or had a hand in any of these situations. I can't speak to your evidence regarding the cost of booking Jesse Neal, but you can't speak to the amount that he was actually paid by TNA. So this whole conversation is pointless. Let me tell you something...I am 100% certain that he was being paid more in TNA than he does at Walmart. Absolute...ZERO doubt in my mind. There is NOTHING that supports otherwise. We know what someone at Walmart makes. There are small time indy companies that can pay you more than that. As far as debating over Jesse Sorrensen....you are 100% right. But it begs the question for your need to slip in this snide remark? We dont know the exact conversations that took place and I am HARD PRESSED to believe Jesse is 100% correct. When there are 2 sides, generally the truth lies some where in the middle. |
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Apr 18, 2014 16:38:00 GMT -5
He's also probably way more qualified to work at Walmart than he ever was to compete in TNA.
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Post by sean™ on Apr 18, 2014 16:46:12 GMT -5
You're right. It doesn't. It does, however, imply that you'd actually assist in some way in paying for said injury. Paying someone a salary of $30,000 a year, only to have a majority of it go towards the medical bills that the company stated that would assist with only to send back to said wrestler isn't exactly an act of kindness. They didn't have to give him a job for life, like say Droz in WWF/E. They could have either A. Given him a job that could have actually assisted him in paying the bills they stated they would "take care of" or B. Just paid the bills they said they would "take care of". I don't even know why we are debating this, considering it's a debate about other people's words and lives that neither of us have a way of truly knowing. Neither of us work for TNA, or had a hand in any of these situations. I can't speak to your evidence regarding the cost of booking Jesse Neal, but you can't speak to the amount that he was actually paid by TNA. So this whole conversation is pointless. Let me tell you something...I am 100% certain that he was being paid more in TNA than he does at Walmart. Absolute...ZERO doubt in my mind. There is NOTHING that supports otherwise. We know what someone at Walmart makes. There are small time indy companies that can pay you more than that. As far as debating over Jesse Sorrensen....you are 100% right. But it begs the question for your need to slip in this snide remark? We dont know the exact conversations that took place and I am HARD PRESSED to believe Jesse is 100% correct. When there are 2 sides, generally the truth lies some where in the middle. You can be as 100% certain as you'd like. But unless you know: A. The specific amount paid to Jesse Neal during his time at TNA. B. The specific job that Jesse Neal holds at Wal-Mart (which would support your knowledge of what someone at Wal-Mart makes) C. The specific amount that Jesse Neal gets paid for said job. ...you know just as much as I do, and have just as many "facts" to "support it". Which is none. You can be hard pressed all you like. It's still an opinion, and will remain an opinion. Just like mine is also an opinion. Opinions can be based upon facts, but in this case, they are assumptions with roughly associated facts that you are attempting to tie together like a debate argument. As for my "snide comment", I was actually making a tongue-in-cheek comment highlighting that not being paid as much by one corporation vs. another corporation is not nearly as bad as it could be, by comparing it to a situation involving another former TNA employee which was far worse. |
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Post by sean™ on Apr 18, 2014 16:48:09 GMT -5
He's also probably way more qualified to work at Walmart than he ever was to compete in TNA. I think we can all agree on this. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 18, 2014 17:44:13 GMT -5
Let me tell you something...I am 100% certain that he was being paid more in TNA than he does at Walmart. Absolute...ZERO doubt in my mind. There is NOTHING that supports otherwise. We know what someone at Walmart makes. There are small time indy companies that can pay you more than that. As far as debating over Jesse Sorrensen....you are 100% right. But it begs the question for your need to slip in this snide remark? We dont know the exact conversations that took place and I am HARD PRESSED to believe Jesse is 100% correct. When there are 2 sides, generally the truth lies some where in the middle. You can be as 100% certain as you'd like. But unless you know: A. The specific amount paid to Jesse Neal during his time at TNA. B. The specific job that Jesse Neal holds at Wal-Mart (which would support your knowledge of what someone at Wal-Mart makes) C. The specific amount that Jesse Neal gets paid for said job. ...you know just as much as I do, and have just as many "facts" to "support it". Which is none. You can be hard pressed all you like. It's still an opinion, and will remain an opinion. Just like mine is also an opinion. Opinions can be based upon facts, but in this case, they are assumptions with roughly associated facts that you are attempting to tie together like a debate argument. As for my "snide comment", I was actually making a tongue-in-cheek comment highlighting that not being paid as much by one corporation vs. another corporation is not nearly as bad as it could be, by comparing it to a situation involving another former TNA employee which was far worse. I'm sorry....but I know what a Walmart employee gets paid. This is as close to 100% fact that there is. Walmart is one of the absolute WORST paying companies in the United States. Feel free to believe otherwise. But you its absolutely FOOLISH to believe that he would make more money from Walmart than at TNA. |
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Apr 18, 2014 18:02:44 GMT -5
my brother made $14 an hour working at Walmart for a while.
There's a lot more to the company than cashiers and stockers..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 19:03:49 GMT -5
my brother made $14 an hour working at Walmart for a while. There's a lot more to the company than cashiers and stockers.. This. As someone who worked their for five years, I can back that statement up. |
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Post by sean™ on Apr 18, 2014 19:45:54 GMT -5
my brother made $14 an hour working at Walmart for a while. There's a lot more to the company than cashiers and stockers.. This. As someone who worked their for five years, I can back that statement up. I don't know guys. I mean, he's close to 100% fact. So that clearly overrides anything else. |
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Apr 18, 2014 20:08:08 GMT -5
Ink Ink was awesome.
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