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Post by Sleazyness on Apr 20, 2014 15:33:45 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 15:46:10 GMT -5
Pretty much a given.
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Post by Matt on Apr 20, 2014 15:48:40 GMT -5
It really makes me wonder what Cena, Orton, Batista, Wyatt are going to do.
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Post by slappy on Apr 20, 2014 15:53:48 GMT -5
I can't wait. Reigns beats Triple H, goes on to the Rumble and wins it then wins the WWE title at WrestleMania 31.
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Post by Justin on Apr 20, 2014 16:00:26 GMT -5
It'll be fun to watch Reigns fall on his face, Punk couldn't get a good match out of him, be interesting to see if HHH can. I also can't wait to see Ambrose cut Reigns promos for the match. Well, assuming they want a good promo. Punk is a good worker but I don't think Punk is one of those guys who pull great matches out of people. If you name some of punks top matches it's usually against someone who is also a good worker. Punks matches with Ryback really show that
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Post by Chief on Apr 20, 2014 16:06:35 GMT -5
Punk wasn't even close to his best when he wrestled Reigns anyway. His work wasn't very consistent and had gotten sloppier. I'm sure it's due to the stuff he was going thru backstage.
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Post by The Yes Man on Apr 20, 2014 16:18:36 GMT -5
It'll be fun to watch Reigns fall on his face, Punk couldn't get a good match out of him, be interesting to see if HHH can. I also can't wait to see Ambrose cut Reigns promos for the match. Well, assuming they want a good promo. Punk is a good worker but I don't think Punk is one of those guys who pull great matches out of people. If you name some of punks top matches it's usually against someone who is also a good worker. Punks matches with Ryback really show that It's not that the match with Punk just wasn't good, it was the drizzling craps. Punk can generally at least pull a kinda good match out of people. His matches with The Ryback weren't nearly that bad.
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Apr 20, 2014 16:19:53 GMT -5
Evoultion back is good. Going against The Shield is better
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Post by Robert69 on Apr 20, 2014 16:29:56 GMT -5
I can't wait to watch Reigns shove it down every hater's throat, if true.
People can't stand a success. The dude's been part of one of the most popular, and now historic teams, in pro wrestling history...
He's consistently improved, and because they talk about him being the next "face" -- people are hating already.
GTFO with that noise. Seriously. Oh yeah -- and that spear on Ryback last Monday, was a think of effing BEAUTY.
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Post by The Yes Man on Apr 20, 2014 16:41:14 GMT -5
I can't wait to watch Reigns shove it down every hater's throat, if true. People can't stand a success. The dude's been part of one of the most popular, and now historic teams, in pro wrestling history... He's consistently improved, and because they talk about him being the next "face" -- people are hating already. GTFO with that noise. Seriously. Oh yeah -- and that spear on Ryback last Monday, was a think of effing BEAUTY. He has a cool spear and a superman punch. Both Rollins and Ambrose are better in every way. They don't need The Shield, The Shield is Reigns life float. WWE realized that so they nixed the break up.
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Post by Robert69 on Apr 20, 2014 16:49:23 GMT -5
I can't wait to watch Reigns shove it down every hater's throat, if true. People can't stand a success. The dude's been part of one of the most popular, and now historic teams, in pro wrestling history... He's consistently improved, and because they talk about him being the next "face" -- people are hating already. GTFO with that noise. Seriously. Oh yeah -- and that spear on Ryback last Monday, was a think of effing BEAUTY. He has a cool spear and a superman punch. Both Rollins and Ambrose are better in every way. They don't need The Shield, The Shield is Reigns life float. WWE realized that so they nixed the break up. I don't think any one of them has out shined the other. Up until recently, Rollins was probably the 3rd string in the group...now he's potentially the next "Jeff Hardy" type of face/champion, one day... Ambrose, I HATED for the longest time. I thought he was mediocre at best. The past couple months, he's grown on me. I haven't seen anything to make me think he's a future top heel -- but there is potential there. Reigns on the other hand, is the total package. Physically, he's got the look that works for both adult males, women, and kids. He has the presence. The general athleticism. He has the spear, superman punch and the apron kick -- he just needs to build on those. And as far as his mic work, we've not really had a chance to ever hear him. He could be a beast on the mic (his twitter comments are gold a lot of the time) -- he's been playing the silent monster type for what? 2 years now? I think at WORST -- he's a "wait, and see" superstar...at best, WWE is right, and he's the replacement for Cena in the next few years. And I'm more than alright with that. I've said it before, I'll say it again...Sheamus/Cena/Show/Orton are stepping back a bit...we have Wyatt, Rollins, Reigns, Ambrose, Big E, Ziggler, Bryan, Cesaro...Paige, Emma, AJ. So much talent. So much damn talent coming up. It's a good time to be a WWE fan with the new era starting. And if Reigns ends up being the face of this era -- cool. If not, there are more than a few options.
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Post by Sleazyness on Apr 20, 2014 16:52:30 GMT -5
He has a cool spear and a superman punch. Both Rollins and Ambrose are better in every way. They don't need The Shield, The Shield is Reigns life float. WWE realized that so they nixed the break up. I don't think any one of them has out shined the other. Up until recently, Rollins was probably the 3rd string in the group...now he's potentially the next "Jeff Hardy" type of face/champion, one day... Ambrose, I HATED for the longest time. I thought he was mediocre at best. The past couple months, he's grown on me. I haven't seen anything to make me think he's a future top heel -- but there is potential there. Reigns on the other hand, is the total package. Physically, he's got the look that works for both adult males, women, and kids. He has the presence. The general athleticism. He has the spear, superman punch and the apron kick -- he just needs to build on those. And as far as his mic work, we've not really had a chance to ever hear him. He could be a beast on the mic (his twitter comments are gold a lot of the time) -- he's been playing the silent monster type for what? 2 years now? I think at WORST -- he's a "wait, and see" superstar...at best, WWE is right, and he's the replacement for Cena in the next few years. And I'm more than alright with that. I've said it before, I'll say it again...Sheamus/Cena/Show/Orton are stepping back a bit...we have Wyatt, Rollins, Reigns, Ambrose, Big E, Ziggler, Bryan, Cesaro...Paige, Emma, AJ. So much talent. So much damn talent coming up. It's a good time to be a WWE fan with the new era starting. And if Reigns ends up being the face of this era -- cool. If not, there are more than a few options. I dont really think Ambrose is better than Reigns. I think Rollins is but he isnt that great on the mic imo. I think that Reigns is a star and I think they all can be. I think people need to give Reigns a chance before bashing the guy before he even gets started.
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Post by Robert69 on Apr 20, 2014 16:59:42 GMT -5
I don't think any one of them has out shined the other. Up until recently, Rollins was probably the 3rd string in the group...now he's potentially the next "Jeff Hardy" type of face/champion, one day... Ambrose, I HATED for the longest time. I thought he was mediocre at best. The past couple months, he's grown on me. I haven't seen anything to make me think he's a future top heel -- but there is potential there. Reigns on the other hand, is the total package. Physically, he's got the look that works for both adult males, women, and kids. He has the presence. The general athleticism. He has the spear, superman punch and the apron kick -- he just needs to build on those. And as far as his mic work, we've not really had a chance to ever hear him. He could be a beast on the mic (his twitter comments are gold a lot of the time) -- he's been playing the silent monster type for what? 2 years now? I think at WORST -- he's a "wait, and see" superstar...at best, WWE is right, and he's the replacement for Cena in the next few years. And I'm more than alright with that. I've said it before, I'll say it again...Sheamus/Cena/Show/Orton are stepping back a bit...we have Wyatt, Rollins, Reigns, Ambrose, Big E, Ziggler, Bryan, Cesaro...Paige, Emma, AJ. So much talent. So much damn talent coming up. It's a good time to be a WWE fan with the new era starting. And if Reigns ends up being the face of this era -- cool. If not, there are more than a few options. I dont really think Ambrose is better than Reigns. I think Rollins is but he isnt that great on the mic imo. I think that Reigns is a star and I think they all can be. I think people need to give Reigns a chance before bashing the guy before he even gets started. I think Managers need to play a more prominent role, too. For guys like Rollins, who can perform, but may have proven they're not really the best on the mic -- give em a mouth piece. Brad Maddox can be damn entertaining on the mic. Why is he stil GMing RAW? Alex Riley? If Alex Riley came out one day with the Million $ Title, and named a superstar, saying he had the backing of Dibiase to find a new star to carry on the legacy/starting a management team, etc...boom. Right there, you got potential gold. That's just a single idea. If the film thing never worked out for me, it was a serious, SERIOUS consideration for me as a career. Paul Heyman, and Bearer has proven that literally ANYONE can be a manager, if you can speak well, and are at least half-intelligent. Charisma helps, obviously, but with a star like Rollins, or Ziggler...how much does the manager really need?
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Post by Tyler Black on Apr 20, 2014 17:14:30 GMT -5
I dont really think Ambrose is better than Reigns. I think Rollins is but he isnt that great on the mic imo. I think that Reigns is a star and I think they all can be. I think people need to give Reigns a chance before bashing the guy before he even gets started. I think Managers need to play a more prominent role, too. For guys like Rollins, who can perform, but may have proven they're not really the best on the mic -- give em a mouth piece. Brad Maddox can be damn entertaining on the mic. Why is he stil GMing RAW? Alex Riley? If Alex Riley came out one day with the Million $ Title, and named a superstar, saying he had the backing of Dibiase to find a new star to carry on the legacy/starting a management team, etc...boom. Right there, you got potential gold. That's just a single idea. If the film thing never worked out for me, it was a serious, SERIOUS consideration for me as a career. Paul Heyman, and Bearer has proven that literally ANYONE can be a manager, if you can speak well, and are at least half-intelligent. Charisma helps, obviously, but with a star like Rollins, or Ziggler...how much does the manager really need? I agree completely you're 100% on the money managing is a lost art and we could defiantly use the revival of managing. Zeb and Paul are great modern examples
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Apr 20, 2014 17:18:16 GMT -5
I can't wait to watch Reigns shove it down every hater's throat, if true. People can't stand a success. The dude's been part of one of the most popular, and now historic teams, in pro wrestling history... He's consistently improved, and because they talk about him being the next "face" -- people are hating already. GTFO with that noise. Seriously. Oh yeah -- and that spear on Ryback last Monday, was a think of effing BEAUTY. He has a cool spear and a superman punch. Both Rollins and Ambrose are better in every way. They don't need The Shield, The Shield is Reigns life float. WWE realized that so they nixed the break up. How else would have brought in Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose on the main roster? Let's not forget that both Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns were in developmental for over two years while Dean Ambrose was in the same system for a year and a half. The WWE did the right move by bringing them in as a trio and making them look really strong right out of the gate. Had Ambrose and Rollins came in as a solo act, I doubt they would have been given the exposure they have been given as opposed to a trio with Reigns. The WWE has struck absolute gold with The Shield. They have kept them strong since coming on to the scene. The fact that the three of them aren't in their 30's helps them more with longevity. I should mention that one of the catalysts for CM Punk's sloppy ring work is because he has been battling with nagging injuries since the end of 2012. When you are injured, you can't perform at your highest potential. Case in point, look at Mr. Perfect vs. Bret Hart from SummerSlam 1991. The match could have been better if Mr. Perfect had been not injured.
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Post by marino13 on Apr 20, 2014 17:18:44 GMT -5
The purpose of Evolution originally was to create new stars out of Orton & Batista. Now their purpose is to make stars out of Reigns, Rollings, & Ambrose. So I'm all for it.
I just sometimes wish they took their time more before they throw a new guy into the top of the card (Wyatt is another example) but I also understand why they do it.
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Post by The Yes Man on Apr 20, 2014 17:23:39 GMT -5
He has a cool spear and a superman punch. Both Rollins and Ambrose are better in every way. They don't need The Shield, The Shield is Reigns life float. WWE realized that so they nixed the break up. How else would have brought in Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose on the main roster? Let's not forget that both Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns were in developmental for over two years while Dean Ambrose was in the same system for a year and a half. The WWE did the right move by bringing them in as a trio and making them look really strong right out of the gate. Had Ambrose and Rollins came in as a solo act, I doubt they would have been given the exposure they have been given as opposed to a trio with Reigns. The WWE has struck absolute gold with The Shield. They have kept them strong since coming on to the scene. The fact that the three of them aren't in their 30's helps them more with longevity. I should mention that one of the catalysts for CM Punk's sloppy ring work is because he has been battling with nagging injuries since the end of 2012. When you are injured, you can't perform at your highest potential. Case in point, look at Mr. Perfect vs. Bret Hart from SummerSlam 1991. The match could have been better if Mr. Perfect had been not injured. I'm not saying The Shield was a bad idea, it was a great idea. I'm just saying, Ambrose and Rollins would have been fine without it. Reigns needs The Shield. Punks injuries would be a good excuse if he hadn't been having good matches with injuries for months. Can anyone name just one above average match that Reigns has had? I can name dozens for Ambrose and Rollins.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 20, 2014 17:26:50 GMT -5
It'll be fun to watch Reigns fall on his face, Punk couldn't get a good match out of him, be interesting to see if HHH can. I also can't wait to see Ambrose cut Reigns promos for the match. Well, assuming they want a good promo. HHH seems to WANT to get Reigns over. Lets face it....HHH doesnt give 2 craps about making Punk stronger. He wants him in WWE....but could care less about him as a performer. I can't wait to watch Reigns shove it down every hater's throat, if true. People can't stand a success. The dude's been part of one of the most popular, and now historic teams, in pro wrestling history... He's consistently improved, and because they talk about him being the next "face" -- people are hating already. GTFO with that noise. Seriously. Oh yeah -- and that spear on Ryback last Monday, was a think of effing BEAUTY. He has a cool spear and a superman punch. Both Rollins and Ambrose are better in every way. They don't need The Shield, The Shield is Reigns life float. WWE realized that so they nixed the break up. Both Rollins and Ambrose are better in every way....cept 1.....the one HHH wants. Bottom line is Reigns needs The Shield less than either Rollins or Ambrose. When the break happens....we KNOW Reigns will get a mega push. Rollins and Ambrose.....not really sure what happens to them. I believe eventually they will be on top of WWE.....but in the near future, we KNOW Reigns will.
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Post by The Yes Man on Apr 20, 2014 17:33:28 GMT -5
It'll be fun to watch Reigns fall on his face, Punk couldn't get a good match out of him, be interesting to see if HHH can. I also can't wait to see Ambrose cut Reigns promos for the match. Well, assuming they want a good promo. HHH seems to WANT to get Reigns over. Lets face it....HHH doesnt give 2 craps about making Punk stronger. He wants him in WWE....but could care less about him as a performer. He has a cool spear and a superman punch. Both Rollins and Ambrose are better in every way. They don't need The Shield, The Shield is Reigns life float. WWE realized that so they nixed the break up. Both Rollins and Ambrose are better in every way....cept 1.....the one HHH wants. Bottom line is Reigns needs The Shield less than either Rollins or Ambrose. When the break happens....we KNOW Reigns will get a mega push. Rollins and Ambrose.....not really sure what happens to them. I believe eventually they will be on top of WWE.....but in the near future, we KNOW Reigns will. Reigns needs The Shield to hide his weaknesses. Ambrose cuts the promos, Rollins and Ambrose carry the six man then tag in Reigns to hit a cool looking move. Any time Reigns has had a singles match or a few lines in a promo it was as entertaining as wet fart.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Apr 20, 2014 17:34:59 GMT -5
How else would have brought in Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose on the main roster? Let's not forget that both Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns were in developmental for over two years while Dean Ambrose was in the same system for a year and a half. The WWE did the right move by bringing them in as a trio and making them look really strong right out of the gate. Had Ambrose and Rollins came in as a solo act, I doubt they would have been given the exposure they have been given as opposed to a trio with Reigns. The WWE has struck absolute gold with The Shield. They have kept them strong since coming on to the scene. The fact that the three of them aren't in their 30's helps them more with longevity. I should mention that one of the catalysts for CM Punk's sloppy ring work is because he has been battling with nagging injuries since the end of 2012. When you are injured, you can't perform at your highest potential. Case in point, look at Mr. Perfect vs. Bret Hart from SummerSlam 1991. The match could have been better if Mr. Perfect had been not injured. I'm not saying The Shield was a bad idea, it was a great idea. I'm just saying, Ambrose and Rollins would have been fine without it. Reigns needs The Shield. Punks injuries would be a good excuse if he hadn't been having good matches with injuries for months. Can anyone name just one above average match that Reigns has had? I can name dozens for Ambrose and Rollins. Simple answer, protecting Roman Reigns is a smart move. We all know that Reigns is the weak link in terms of in-ring action. That is why he was paired with Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins. From the gist of your posts, it seems you really don't like Roman Reigns. I have given him the chance and I see what I like with Reigns as well as Ambrose and Rollins. Its like saying that Randy Orton didn't need to be in Evolution. In reality, he needed to be around two veterans to make him look good as he was being a more polished performer. The same thing is happening with Reigns. He has Ambrose and Rollins to make him look more of a polished performer.
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