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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 14:35:42 GMT -5
www.chinlock.com/2014/04/chinlock-radio-ep-14-jessy-sorensen/I thought this was interesting because of a story Soresen tells: After TNA refused to pay his medical bills, he told Bruce Prichard that, while he really didn't want to, he was prepared to take legal action and had even met with lawyers. Three days later, Dixie, Bruce and Dean Broadbend called him in for an emergency meeting and offered him the production job and Dixie told him he could learn new skills and be a major part of TNA going forward. By the point he got fired a couple of months later the time with which he could sue TNA in Tennessee court had run out. (Daffney confirmed this in her shoot too.) Sorensen also mentions that his friends in WWE, including Heath Slater, were disgusted when they heard that TNA wouldn't pay his bills, since it is never an issue when they get injured in ring because Vince pays for absolutely everything. Like, you show a card and that's literally the end of it. It's a really interesting look at the difference between the two companies. He doesn't outright say it, but I think he recognizes he made a mistake in trusting them . It's a good lesson to wrestlers everywhere, I'd say. Know your rights.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 27, 2014 15:37:40 GMT -5
He wouldnt have won anyway. Pro wrestlers are almost uninsureable. Vince pays for medical bills b/c Vince owns a billion dollar company that traded publically and wants to make sure his talent is in the best shape possible in order to keep them on the road. Vince hasnt always done this....in fact its relatively new like within the last decade or so that this has started to happen.
I'm also pretty sure workman's compensation is null and void as each performer is an independent contractor and not an employee. He would have wasted tons of money on a law suit that the only leg he had to stand on was.....sympathy. Sorrensen probably would have had a better case to sue Zema. He could always base that off of Zema's carelessness or poor training or something to that effect. I'm not saying its valid.....but he would have a better case.
No one forced Sorrensen to get in the ring. I feel as bad today as I did the day it happened to him. Young kid, solid talent. I wish it never happened to him. It sucks. I wish he didnt have a ton of medical bills as well....but so is the life of a pro wrestler. If he was that concerned with medical bills, maybe he should have gone to WWE instead of TNA.....oh yeah, thats right......WWE didnt want him/need him/know of him....pick a million reasons. My sympathy ends at his injury. His bitterness towards TNA for not paying his medical bills is absurd.
In addition, I'm sure the reason he took the production job was because his lawyers advised him of his small chances to actually win and that the money from this position would be more compensation vs. what he might be able to get out of TNA. Why was he fired? I dont know. Maybe he sucked at his position. I have no clue. But he was let go and thats the end. Funny how he never bitched about the medical bills till after losing his production job.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 16:27:29 GMT -5
He wouldnt have won anyway. Pro wrestlers are almost uninsureable. Vince pays for medical bills b/c Vince owns a billion dollar company that traded publically and wants to make sure his talent is in the best shape possible in order to keep them on the road. Vince hasnt always done this....in fact its relatively new like within the last decade or so that this has started to happen. I'm also pretty sure workman's compensation is null and void as each performer is an independent contractor and not an employee. He would have wasted tons of money on a law suit that the only leg he had to stand on was.....sympathy. Sorrensen probably would have had a better case to sue Zema. He could always base that off of Zema's carelessness or poor training or something to that effect. I'm not saying its valid.....but he would have a better case. No one forced Sorrensen to get in the ring. I feel as bad today as I did the day it happened to him. Young kid, solid talent. I wish it never happened to him. It sucks. I wish he didnt have a ton of medical bills as well....but so is the life of a pro wrestler. If he was that concerned with medical bills, maybe he should have gone to WWE instead of TNA.....oh yeah, thats right......WWE didnt want him/need him/know of him....pick a million reasons. My sympathy ends at his injury. His bitterness towards TNA for not paying his medical bills is absurd. In addition, I'm sure the reason he took the production job was because his lawyers advised him of his small chances to actually win and that the money from this position would be more compensation vs. what he might be able to get out of TNA. Why was he fired? I dont know. Maybe he sucked at his position. I have no clue. But he was let go and thats the end. Funny how he never bitched about the medical bills till after losing his production job. No but from a morality stand point they could have paid them. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 27, 2014 16:35:46 GMT -5
He wouldnt have won anyway. Pro wrestlers are almost uninsureable. Vince pays for medical bills b/c Vince owns a billion dollar company that traded publically and wants to make sure his talent is in the best shape possible in order to keep them on the road. Vince hasnt always done this....in fact its relatively new like within the last decade or so that this has started to happen. I'm also pretty sure workman's compensation is null and void as each performer is an independent contractor and not an employee. He would have wasted tons of money on a law suit that the only leg he had to stand on was.....sympathy. Sorrensen probably would have had a better case to sue Zema. He could always base that off of Zema's carelessness or poor training or something to that effect. I'm not saying its valid.....but he would have a better case. No one forced Sorrensen to get in the ring. I feel as bad today as I did the day it happened to him. Young kid, solid talent. I wish it never happened to him. It sucks. I wish he didnt have a ton of medical bills as well....but so is the life of a pro wrestler. If he was that concerned with medical bills, maybe he should have gone to WWE instead of TNA.....oh yeah, thats right......WWE didnt want him/need him/know of him....pick a million reasons. My sympathy ends at his injury. His bitterness towards TNA for not paying his medical bills is absurd. In addition, I'm sure the reason he took the production job was because his lawyers advised him of his small chances to actually win and that the money from this position would be more compensation vs. what he might be able to get out of TNA. Why was he fired? I dont know. Maybe he sucked at his position. I have no clue. But he was let go and thats the end. Funny how he never bitched about the medical bills till after losing his production job. No but from a morality stand point they could have paid them. this debate continues to rage on. This is business. You set a BAD precedent and OPEN yourself up to law suits if you do. They pay Jesse's and Daffney screams, pardon the pun, her bills werent paid cuz she is a woman. Pay Sorrensen's bill and Kenny King gets hurt and TNA doesnt pay those....he screams cuz of the color of his skin. You cannot pick and choose who you will pay and who you will not. And you cannot pay them all cuz otherwise TNA would have gone bankrupt years ago. |
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on Apr 27, 2014 17:06:31 GMT -5
Dixie paid for both of Sabin's knee surgeries as well as most of Sorensen's medical bills other than physio and testing. Sorensen is just bitter that's all.
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Apr 27, 2014 19:01:16 GMT -5
I liked him he was good talent. I thought Dixie payed the bills but broke her promise about keeping him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 12:14:09 GMT -5
Dixie paid for both of Sabin's knee surgeries as well as most of Sorensen's medical bills other than physio and testing. Sorensen is just bitter that's all. He has specifically said she didn't. He even mentions getting a phone call from a woman for $43,000 just for the first few days in the hospital. He told her he thought TNA was taking are of it, and she didn't have a clue what he was talking about. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 12:15:17 GMT -5
No but from a morality stand point they could have paid them. this debate continues to rage on. This is business. You set a BAD precedent and OPEN yourself up to law suits if you do. They pay Jesse's and Daffney screams, pardon the pun, her bills werent paid cuz she is a woman. Pay Sorrensen's bill and Kenny King gets hurt and TNA doesnt pay those....he screams cuz of the color of his skin. You cannot pick and choose who you will pay and who you will not. And you cannot pay them all cuz otherwise TNA would have gone bankrupt years ago. Except Daffney and Konnan sued them...so they're leaving themselves vulnerable to lawsuits anyway. I think the answer is: TNA should just pay for all in-ring injuries. And, yes, considering they get millions from Spike and were paying Hogan thousands an appearance, they can totally afford to cover it. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 28, 2014 12:53:31 GMT -5
this debate continues to rage on. This is business. You set a BAD precedent and OPEN yourself up to law suits if you do. They pay Jesse's and Daffney screams, pardon the pun, her bills werent paid cuz she is a woman. Pay Sorrensen's bill and Kenny King gets hurt and TNA doesnt pay those....he screams cuz of the color of his skin. You cannot pick and choose who you will pay and who you will not. And you cannot pay them all cuz otherwise TNA would have gone bankrupt years ago. Except Daffney and Konnan sued them...so they're leaving themselves vulnerable to lawsuits anyway. I think the answer is: TNA should just pay for all in-ring injuries. And, yes, considering they get millions from Spike and were paying Hogan thousands an appearance, they can totally afford to cover it. Then you have no conception on how expensive medical bills are and/or how a business runs. Talent should require it to be in their contracts if its that important to them. It wasnt at the time Jesse signed. Everyone wants to blame TNA, but in reality, each talent has the right to negotiate whatever contract the best they can. Blame Jesse if he didnt have that in his contract and not TNA. As far as Daffney and Konnan suing....you cna sue all you want....doesnt mean you have any merit nor does it mean you will actually win nor does it mean you will ever see a dime. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 15:30:31 GMT -5
Both Daffney and Konnan got settlements. Pretty big ones too, if you believe the stories.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Apr 28, 2014 17:51:11 GMT -5
Dixie sounds like a horrible human being who deserves leukemia. Of course she wouldn't have to worry about having her medical bills paid because of her family's deep pockets.
It's a shame that an idiotic, fool like that feels like she's capable of running a company like this and in the process of doing so is ruining people's lives and killing people's dreams.
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Post by JC Motors on May 6, 2014 9:53:33 GMT -5
Dixie sounds like a horrible human being who deserves leukemia. Of course she wouldn't have to worry about having her medical bills paid because of her family's deep pockets. It's a shame that an idiotic, fool like that feels like she's capable of running a company like this and in the process of doing so is ruining people's lives and killing people's dreams. I wouldn't go that far saying Dixie Carter deserves leukemia. Dixie Carter is one of the worst business people in history |
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Post by HHH316 on May 6, 2014 12:44:22 GMT -5
I can understand Jesse's side of this, but after being in a workman's compensation case myself, I can't imagine him having a good chance at winning his case. I've seen first hand what lawyers & attorney's will do & how low things can get. It could drag on in court for years, putting him deepee in the hole. Its a business move, bottom line. I'm in no way taking TNA's side here, but I think its more of a morality issue. Its sad to think that bankruptcy is looking like the best option.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on May 6, 2014 16:02:11 GMT -5
The real issue is that Dixie promised Jesse he'd have work for life and then she kicked his ass to the curb. Vince would have NEVER done that to him.
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Post by Hitman Bono on May 6, 2014 16:10:01 GMT -5
He wouldnt have won anyway. Pro wrestlers are almost uninsureable. Vince pays for medical bills b/c Vince owns a billion dollar company that traded publically and wants to make sure his talent is in the best shape possible in order to keep them on the road. Vince hasnt always done this....in fact its relatively new like within the last decade or so that this has started to happen. I'm also pretty sure workman's compensation is null and void as each performer is an independent contractor and not an employee. He would have wasted tons of money on a law suit that the only leg he had to stand on was.....sympathy. Sorrensen probably would have had a better case to sue Zema. He could always base that off of Zema's carelessness or poor training or something to that effect. I'm not saying its valid.....but he would have a better case. No one forced Sorrensen to get in the ring. I feel as bad today as I did the day it happened to him. Young kid, solid talent. I wish it never happened to him. It sucks. I wish he didnt have a ton of medical bills as well....but so is the life of a pro wrestler. If he was that concerned with medical bills, maybe he should have gone to WWE instead of TNA.....oh yeah, thats right......WWE didnt want him/need him/know of him....pick a million reasons. My sympathy ends at his injury. His bitterness towards TNA for not paying his medical bills is absurd. In addition, I'm sure the reason he took the production job was because his lawyers advised him of his small chances to actually win and that the money from this position would be more compensation vs. what he might be able to get out of TNA. Why was he fired? I dont know. Maybe he sucked at his position. I have no clue. But he was let go and thats the end. Funny how he never bitched about the medical bills till after losing his production job. I'm not disagreeing, but you're aware of the fact that Panda's net worth is 7-12x that of WWE don't ya? There really isn't a good reason that they didn't spring for that dude's bills. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on May 7, 2014 17:21:07 GMT -5
He wouldnt have won anyway. Pro wrestlers are almost uninsureable. Vince pays for medical bills b/c Vince owns a billion dollar company that traded publically and wants to make sure his talent is in the best shape possible in order to keep them on the road. Vince hasnt always done this....in fact its relatively new like within the last decade or so that this has started to happen. I'm also pretty sure workman's compensation is null and void as each performer is an independent contractor and not an employee. He would have wasted tons of money on a law suit that the only leg he had to stand on was.....sympathy. Sorrensen probably would have had a better case to sue Zema. He could always base that off of Zema's carelessness or poor training or something to that effect. I'm not saying its valid.....but he would have a better case. No one forced Sorrensen to get in the ring. I feel as bad today as I did the day it happened to him. Young kid, solid talent. I wish it never happened to him. It sucks. I wish he didnt have a ton of medical bills as well....but so is the life of a pro wrestler. If he was that concerned with medical bills, maybe he should have gone to WWE instead of TNA.....oh yeah, thats right......WWE didnt want him/need him/know of him....pick a million reasons. My sympathy ends at his injury. His bitterness towards TNA for not paying his medical bills is absurd. In addition, I'm sure the reason he took the production job was because his lawyers advised him of his small chances to actually win and that the money from this position would be more compensation vs. what he might be able to get out of TNA. Why was he fired? I dont know. Maybe he sucked at his position. I have no clue. But he was let go and thats the end. Funny how he never bitched about the medical bills till after losing his production job. I'm not disagreeing, but you're aware of the fact that Panda's net worth is 7-12x that of WWE don't ya? There really isn't a good reason that they didn't spring for that dude's bills. Very much aware of it. Panda is WAY more valuable than WWE. That being said, like many have said before.....there is a far greater chance WWE buys TNA than TNA buying WWE. While Panda is a parent company of TNA, they are not floating the entire bill. TNA is its own company. It has to perform within certain limits. Acting outside those limits can then cause financial hardship to Panda. In doing so, Panda could then decide to cut bait with TNA. I am sure the money that TNA loses is something Panda currently uses as a write off against their immense profits. The moment that TNA becomes a liability or acts outside the budgeting boundaries they have set.....Panda can cut bait. |
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