Post by Hitman Bono on May 31, 2014 3:46:43 GMT -5
So, there's a thread on here that got turned into a discussion about the merits of the Attitude Era versus today's PG Era. While it's obviously a matter of taste and nostalgia when it comes to angles and characters and things of that matter, it's not very hard to point out a great match. You don't have to be hip to buzzwords like workrate or 5 star match to be able to point out what a great match is.
This Attitude Era begins on March 17, 1997 and ends on April 1, 2001. If you don't agree with those dates then please don't derail the thread. We could argue that it started the night of the gun incident, or we could say it ends with the brand split. But for the sake of this discussion, let's leave it at that 4 year period.
Now, the PG Era is a tad bit trickier to nail down, and I'll be the first to admit that it starts before the date I'm going to list, for the sake of this discussion let's say that the modern, PG Era begins when we start seeing the Mattel figures. January 2010. That's 4 years for the Attitude Era, 4 1/2 for PG.
I'm not taking a side in this, however I am taking it upon myself to list as many Attitude Era matches as possible. Feel free to add to it (sans the Wrestlemania 14 main event. Both men have admitted to it being ok, but not great).
Let's try to limit ourselves to great matches. If you're wavering between "good" and "great", go with "good".
So, let's list the best matches of each era, and compare.
Attitude Era
Bret Hart vs Steve Austin - Wrestlemania 13
Owen & Davey Boy vs HBK & Stone Cold - RAW May 26, 1997
HBK vs Stone Cold - King of the Ring 1997 (This is taking the place of WM14. Both men have said WM14 was okay, not great. This was great.)
TAKA vs Great Sasuke - Canadian Stampede
Main Event - Canadian Stampede
Bret Hart vs Undertaker - Summer Slam
Bret Hart vs Undertaker - One Night Only
HBK vs Davey Boy - One Night Only
HBK vs Undertaker - Ground Zero
Cactus Jack vs HHH - RAW September 22, 1997
HBK vs Undertaker - Bad Blood
HBK vs Undertaker - Royal Rumble 1998
Main Event - No Way Out 1998
Dude Love vs Stone Cold - Unforgiven 1998
Dude Love vs Stone Cold - Over the Edge 1998
Mankind vs Undertaker - King of the Ring 1998 (Could be debated, but it's the most revered American match ever, so it's great)
Rock vs HHH - Fully Loaded 1998
Rock vs HHH - Summer Slam 1998
Owen Hart vs Shamrock - Summer Slam 1998
Undertaker vs Stone Cold - Summer Slam 1998
Rock vs Shamrock vs Mankind - Breakdown 1998
Ken Shamrock vs Mankind - Judgement Day 1998
Rock vs Mankind - Survivor Series 1998
Rock vs Mankind - Royal Rumble 1999
Rock vs Mankind - St Valentine's Day Massacre 1999
Rock vs Stone Cold - Wrestlemania 15
Big Show vs Mankind - Backlash 1999
Rock vs Stone Cold - Backlash 1999
Rock vs HHH - Fully Loaded 1999
Undertaker vs Stone Cold - Fully Loaded 1999
Test vs Shane O'Mac - Summer Slam 1999
6 Pack Challenge - Unforgiven 1999
Y2J vs Road Dogg - Rebellion 1999 (Dogg's best match ever)
Jeff Jarrett vs Chyna - No Mercy 1999
Hardyz vs Edge & Christian - No Mercy 1999
HHH vs Stone Cold - No Mercy 1999
HHH vs Cactus Jack - Royal Rumble 2000
Royal Rumble - Royal Rumble 2000
10 Man Tag - RAW February 7, 2000
HHH vs Cactus Jack - No Way Out 2000
Hardyz vs Dudley Boys vs Edge & Christian - Wrestlemania 2000
Dean Malenko vs Scotty 2 Hotty - Backlash 2000
Y2J vs Benoit - Backlash 2000
HHH vs Rock - Backlash 2000
Y2J vs Benoit - Judgement Day 2000
HHH vs Rock - Judgement Day 2000
Angle vs Eddie - King of the Ring 2000
HHH vs Y2J - Fully Loaded 2000
Rock vs Benoit - Fully Loaded 2000
Y2J vs Benoit - Summer Slam 2000
Hardyz vs Dudley Boys vs Edge & Christian - Summer Slam 2000
Rock vs Angle vs HHH - Summer Slam 2000
Hardyz vs Edge & Christian - Unforgiven 2000
Y2J vs X-Pac - Unforgiven 2000
Rock vs Benoit vs Undertaker vs Kane - Unforgiven 2000
Y2J vs X-Pac - No Mercy 2000
HHH vs Benoit - No Mercy 2000
Rock vs Angle - No Mercy 2000
Hell in a Cell 6 Way - Armageddon 2000
Y2J vs Benoit - Royal Rumble 2001
Royal Rumble - Royal Rumble 2001
HHH vs Angle - Royal Rumble 2001
Y2J vs Benoit vs Eddie vs X-Pac - No Way Out 2001
Rock vs Angle - No Way Out 2001
HHH vs Stone Cold - No Way Out 2001
Angle vs Benoit - Wrestlemania 17
Vince McMahon vs Shane O'Mac - Wrestlemania 17
Hardyz vs Dudley Boys vs Edge & Christian - Wrestlemania 17
HHH vs Undertaker - Wrestlemania 17
Rock vs Stone Cold - Wrestlemania 17
This Attitude Era begins on March 17, 1997 and ends on April 1, 2001. If you don't agree with those dates then please don't derail the thread. We could argue that it started the night of the gun incident, or we could say it ends with the brand split. But for the sake of this discussion, let's leave it at that 4 year period.
Now, the PG Era is a tad bit trickier to nail down, and I'll be the first to admit that it starts before the date I'm going to list, for the sake of this discussion let's say that the modern, PG Era begins when we start seeing the Mattel figures. January 2010. That's 4 years for the Attitude Era, 4 1/2 for PG.
I'm not taking a side in this, however I am taking it upon myself to list as many Attitude Era matches as possible. Feel free to add to it (sans the Wrestlemania 14 main event. Both men have admitted to it being ok, but not great).
Let's try to limit ourselves to great matches. If you're wavering between "good" and "great", go with "good".
So, let's list the best matches of each era, and compare.
Attitude Era
Bret Hart vs Steve Austin - Wrestlemania 13
Owen & Davey Boy vs HBK & Stone Cold - RAW May 26, 1997
HBK vs Stone Cold - King of the Ring 1997 (This is taking the place of WM14. Both men have said WM14 was okay, not great. This was great.)
TAKA vs Great Sasuke - Canadian Stampede
Main Event - Canadian Stampede
Bret Hart vs Undertaker - Summer Slam
Bret Hart vs Undertaker - One Night Only
HBK vs Davey Boy - One Night Only
HBK vs Undertaker - Ground Zero
Cactus Jack vs HHH - RAW September 22, 1997
HBK vs Undertaker - Bad Blood
HBK vs Undertaker - Royal Rumble 1998
Main Event - No Way Out 1998
Dude Love vs Stone Cold - Unforgiven 1998
Dude Love vs Stone Cold - Over the Edge 1998
Mankind vs Undertaker - King of the Ring 1998 (Could be debated, but it's the most revered American match ever, so it's great)
Rock vs HHH - Fully Loaded 1998
Rock vs HHH - Summer Slam 1998
Owen Hart vs Shamrock - Summer Slam 1998
Undertaker vs Stone Cold - Summer Slam 1998
Rock vs Shamrock vs Mankind - Breakdown 1998
Ken Shamrock vs Mankind - Judgement Day 1998
Rock vs Mankind - Survivor Series 1998
Rock vs Mankind - Royal Rumble 1999
Rock vs Mankind - St Valentine's Day Massacre 1999
Rock vs Stone Cold - Wrestlemania 15
Big Show vs Mankind - Backlash 1999
Rock vs Stone Cold - Backlash 1999
Rock vs HHH - Fully Loaded 1999
Undertaker vs Stone Cold - Fully Loaded 1999
Test vs Shane O'Mac - Summer Slam 1999
6 Pack Challenge - Unforgiven 1999
Y2J vs Road Dogg - Rebellion 1999 (Dogg's best match ever)
Jeff Jarrett vs Chyna - No Mercy 1999
Hardyz vs Edge & Christian - No Mercy 1999
HHH vs Stone Cold - No Mercy 1999
HHH vs Cactus Jack - Royal Rumble 2000
Royal Rumble - Royal Rumble 2000
10 Man Tag - RAW February 7, 2000
HHH vs Cactus Jack - No Way Out 2000
Hardyz vs Dudley Boys vs Edge & Christian - Wrestlemania 2000
Dean Malenko vs Scotty 2 Hotty - Backlash 2000
Y2J vs Benoit - Backlash 2000
HHH vs Rock - Backlash 2000
Y2J vs Benoit - Judgement Day 2000
HHH vs Rock - Judgement Day 2000
Angle vs Eddie - King of the Ring 2000
HHH vs Y2J - Fully Loaded 2000
Rock vs Benoit - Fully Loaded 2000
Y2J vs Benoit - Summer Slam 2000
Hardyz vs Dudley Boys vs Edge & Christian - Summer Slam 2000
Rock vs Angle vs HHH - Summer Slam 2000
Hardyz vs Edge & Christian - Unforgiven 2000
Y2J vs X-Pac - Unforgiven 2000
Rock vs Benoit vs Undertaker vs Kane - Unforgiven 2000
Y2J vs X-Pac - No Mercy 2000
HHH vs Benoit - No Mercy 2000
Rock vs Angle - No Mercy 2000
Hell in a Cell 6 Way - Armageddon 2000
Y2J vs Benoit - Royal Rumble 2001
Royal Rumble - Royal Rumble 2001
HHH vs Angle - Royal Rumble 2001
Y2J vs Benoit vs Eddie vs X-Pac - No Way Out 2001
Rock vs Angle - No Way Out 2001
HHH vs Stone Cold - No Way Out 2001
Angle vs Benoit - Wrestlemania 17
Vince McMahon vs Shane O'Mac - Wrestlemania 17
Hardyz vs Dudley Boys vs Edge & Christian - Wrestlemania 17
HHH vs Undertaker - Wrestlemania 17
Rock vs Stone Cold - Wrestlemania 17