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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Jun 18, 2014 14:52:46 GMT -5
So everyone says that Cena has too many reigns and that he holds the title way too often. So which ones would you change, how and why? I've listed them all here for reference: - WWE Title #1: 3 April 2005 - 8 January 2006
- WWE Title #2: 29 January 2006 - 11 June 2006
- WWE Title #3: 17 September 2006 - 2 October 2007
- World Heavyweight Championship #1: 23 November 2008 - 15 February 2009
- World Heavyweight Championship #2: 5 April 2009 - 26 April 2009
- WWE Title #4: 13 September 2009 - 4 October 2009
- WWE Title #5: 25 October 2009 - 13 December 2009
- WWE Title #6: 21 February 2010 - 21 February 2010
- WWE Title #7: 28 March 2010 - 20 June 2010
- WWE Title #8: 1 May 2011 - 17 July 2011
- WWE Title #9: 25 July 2011 - 14 August 2011
- WWE Title #10: 18 September 2011 - 2 October 2011
- WWE Title #11: 7 April 2013 - 18 August 2013
- World Heavyweight Championship #3: 27 October 2013 - 15 December 2013
WWE Title #6 is clearly needless, and I think WWE Title #2 should've been delayed until WM. WWE title #4 seems a bit pointless too. *Waits for crap Roman Reigns joke*
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 14:57:14 GMT -5
All of them wiped from history.
Nah I'm kidding.
I really have no idea which ones to keep and which ones to remove. I do know he was getting stale in 2006, became unbearable in 2010 and is intolerable in 2014.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 14:59:28 GMT -5
The one he won from Rey.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Jun 18, 2014 15:04:24 GMT -5
Precisely. I'd love it if Rey and Del Rio feuded over what WWE called the "true" WWE Title while Cena and Punk fought over Punk's "illegitimate" WWE Title, then once Punk beat Cena and Del Rio beat Rey we could've gotten the unification match between Punk and Del Rio at SvS.
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Post by Kanenite on Jun 18, 2014 15:11:38 GMT -5
Between #5 (2nd World title) and #10 (8th WWE title) I think he should of had the WWE Championship only once or maybe twice in there.
#11 and 12 were pretty pointless too I must say.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Jun 18, 2014 15:29:01 GMT -5
Pointless: WWE Title 6 and 10 WHC 1 and 3
WWE Title 4 and 5 should have also only been one reign.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 15:39:52 GMT -5
Remember when Hulk Hogan and Bret Hart each had 5 WWF title reigns and it was a HUGE deal?
These 10+ title reigns are absolute sh*t and pisses me off to no end.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jun 18, 2014 15:42:50 GMT -5
WWE Title #2 could've waited until WrestleMania 22 World Title #1 didn't need to happen, cut the legs off of Jericho's reign quickly WWE Title #4 wasn't bad as it was traded during his feud with Randy Orton, though Orton could've held it straight through so I'll say this one wasn't needed WWE Title #9 ugh. That stupid night he beat Rey Mysterio WWE Title #10 is the most useless reign that he's ever had BY FAR. It ended Alberto Del Rio's reign right after he won it and only lasted so he could drop it back. Couldn't Del Rio have won by DQ or by cheating? Awful
That's about it. Even WWE Title #6 served a purpose to build towards Batista/Cena at WrestleMania 26.
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Post by The Yes Man on Jun 18, 2014 16:34:41 GMT -5
His first WHC I would save for WM 25, which negates number 2. He and Orton wouldn't have traded the belt so much that year. I would have had Batista take Cenas spot in Elimination Chamber 2010, then have Cena win it at WM 26. WWE Championship #2 would have been saved for WM 22.
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Jun 18, 2014 16:38:09 GMT -5
I really rather him not be a 16 time champ like Flair, but I do see another run. If it gets to 16 then I guess so be it..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 18:37:26 GMT -5
We had all better brace ourselves because there's more to come.....I thought him beating Rey on Raw was pretty pointless.....but frankly the result was so heavily telegraphed there was zero tension.
my Husky's knew Cena was gonna win.....that's a HUGE part of the Cena problem IMO.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Jun 18, 2014 19:54:43 GMT -5
We had all better brace ourselves because there's more to come.....I thought him beating Rey on Raw was pretty pointless.....but frankly the result was so heavily telegraphed there was zero tension. my Husky's knew Cena was gonna win.....that's a HUGE part of the Cena problem IMO. Punks return and the build/match at SummerSlam make that one justifiable to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 20:02:59 GMT -5
#9 - Even though it did set up Punk and Cena being there live it kinda sucked the air out of me cause I was kinda happy rey won the title but when he lost it made the tournament feel unnecessary if Cena was just gonna get the title back anyway
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Post by Devilkiller on Jun 18, 2014 20:19:19 GMT -5
I really rather him not be a 16 time champ like Flair, but I do see another run. If it gets to 16 then I guess so be it.. That's my main problem too. He should only get MAYBE one more run. It's funny, he won't ever be a Grand Slam champion.
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Post by Rontaro13 on Jun 18, 2014 20:44:22 GMT -5
World Title #2 - Should have stayed Champion up until Backlash and lose it to Edge like he did.
WWE Title #6 - Have Batista enter and win the chamber match pinning Cena last, then have Cena win the title at WrestleMania 26.
WWE Title #9 - Mysterio should have kept the title, and build up to a Triple Threat between Cena, Mysterio, and Punk at Summerslam. Cena could have won it at HIAC in a 4 way Hell In A Cell including Del Rio, Mysterio, and Punk.
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Post by King Silva on Jun 18, 2014 20:53:10 GMT -5
1} WWE Title #1: 3 April 2005 - 8 January 2006 2} WWE Title #2: 29 January 2006 - 11 June 2006 [If Cena had to win it so soon from Edge it should have been at WM 22 which would have shortened this reign by a little over two months] 3} WWE Title #3: 17 September 2006 - 2 October 2007 4}World Heavyweight Championship #1: 23 November 2008 - 15 February 2009 5} World Heavyweight Championship #2: 5 April 2009 - 26 April 2009 6} WWE Title #4: 13 September 2009 - 4 October 2009 7} WWE Title #5: 25 October 2009 - 13 December 2009 [This reign should have never happened because Cena should have still be champion from when he won the WWE Title on September 13th, 2009. Changing this would have also taken away a pointless 21 day WWE Title reign for Orton.. Cena could still drop the belt to Sheamus on Dec 13, 2009.]8} WWE Title #6: 21 February 2010 - 21 February 2010[Super pointless reign is super pointless!....] 9} WWE Title #7: 28 March 2010 - 20 June 2010 10} WWE Title #8: 1 May 2011 - 17 July 2011 11} WWE Title #9: 25 July 2011 - 14 August 2011[This entire period was a cluster with Punk being champion but not since he 'left'. They had Rey win the WWE Title tournament to just lost to Cena that Raw which was pointless and I almost think they should have had Cena just win the tournament but no let Rey win and keep the belt for a month or so.. Cena/Punk for the undisputed WWE Title was cool I guess but the fact that Del Rio immediately beat Punk for the belt he just won 100% by himself leads me to want to just strike it all out since it would eliminate 3 pointless reigns (Rey, Cena and Punk).] 12} WWE Title #10: 18 September 2011 - 2 October 2011[Del Rio was champion from Summerslam Aug 14th, 2011 - Sep 18th, 2011 and after Cena won the belt from him at NOC 2011 he won it back at HIAC to then hold onto it for another 49 days til Punk beat him at SvS 2011. Why did Cena need a sh*t 14 day reign in between? Give that time to ADR so he would have been champion from Summerslam 2011 to Survivor Series 2011.] 13} WWE Title #11: 7 April 2013 - 18 August 2013 14} World Heavyweight Championship #3: 27 October 2013 - 15 December 2013 All the rest I would keep I guess. The first and third reigns of his were super long and at times really boring but whatever..
In the end I think Cena should be a 7x WWE Champion and a 2x WHC so 9x overall not 14x (and counting )..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 4:29:56 GMT -5
We had all better brace ourselves because there's more to come.....I thought him beating Rey on Raw was pretty pointless.....but frankly the result was so heavily telegraphed there was zero tension. my Husky's knew Cena was gonna win.....that's a HUGE part of the Cena problem IMO. Punks return and the build/match at SummerSlam make that one justifiable to me. To each their own. I thought at least Rey could've kept it for a week.
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Post by Jamie on Jun 19, 2014 5:03:29 GMT -5
You just wait until Reigns gets this treatment.
Really guys? It took THIS long?
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Jun 21, 2014 8:55:48 GMT -5
King Silva your post est explains why hotshotting the championship devalues the title. During of the Summer of 2011, the booking was a complete mess. Dante, The Voc, I like the idea of having a legit and illegitimate champion. Having both would have had a better back story for CM Punk/Alberto Del Rio at the 2011 Survivor Series. I'll leave it here before I make a long, winded post.
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Post by Escape The Rules on Jun 22, 2014 5:10:27 GMT -5
The ones that really annoyed me was winning it from Orton at Breaking Point in 2009, dropping it to him at HIAC, only to win it back again at Bragging Rights. What the was the point? And beating Del Rio at NOC 2011 only to drop it at HIAC like 3 weeks later. Again, completely ing pointless and boneheaded.
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