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Post by Sleazyness on Aug 17, 2014 2:34:22 GMT -5
I was watching WCW Superbrawl 95' and The Nasty Boyz got disqualified after throwing one of the Harlem Heat members over the top rope.
Does anyone know why being thrown over the top rope was such a big deal to the point that they had to disqualify a person if they did that?
Also, what were your thoughts on this rule?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 2:40:17 GMT -5
I ain't sure why it was a rule but it was WCW they probably didn't know either.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 17, 2014 2:42:18 GMT -5
A lot of wrestling federations many, many, many years ago had that as a rule. I believe Smoky Mountain Wrestling had that as a rule too.
I think it was just a way to make the heels be even more over as heels by having that rule. If the referee isn't looking and a heel throws the face over the top rope, the fans know it's a DQ and the face should win. But since the referee never saw it, it never happens.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 4:09:18 GMT -5
Didn't TNA do something with this while they were still part of NWA?
I could swear they made a storyline out of someone getting tossed over the top rope and being DQ'd.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 17, 2014 8:54:46 GMT -5
I wanna say that was a Bill Watts idea. It was more less another finish to a match they didn't have a plan for. It was bad, but not as bad as the no jumping off the top rope rule they once had.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 17, 2014 9:05:18 GMT -5
Didn't TNA do something with this while they were still part of NWA? I could swear they made a storyline out of someone getting tossed over the top rope and being DQ'd. Not entirely sure, but I know that Abyss won the NWA Title via disqualification.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Aug 17, 2014 9:20:28 GMT -5
It's just one of the terrible rules that got instituted in WCW by the Southern "wrasslin'" idiot promoters who were stuck in the 70s.
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Post by TheXtremisT on Aug 18, 2014 7:20:39 GMT -5
Reminds of the "catch-as-catch-can" match I found out about in WCW. I believe it was Kidman vs Malenko, if you leave the ring, you lose by DQ. Malenko voluntarily rolled out early on - no DQ. WCW folks!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 12:27:36 GMT -5
It was a carryover from the old NWA. The idea is being thrown from that great a height was a deliberate attempt to injure the opponent in the same vein as an eye gouge or a low blow.
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Post by ICW on Aug 18, 2014 12:57:44 GMT -5
Didn't the WWF "adopt" those rules during that NWA Invasion? I believe those rules were implemented whenever an NWA match took place on WWF Television.
I think the Headbangers once got DQ'ed for throwing their NWA opponents over the top. Could be wrong.
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Post by Nivro™ on Aug 18, 2014 15:38:48 GMT -5
Yep it was an NWA rule and any NWA sanctioned events had the rule in place. Thus why it was used in the WWF during the NWA/SMW invasion. WCW brought it in when Watts came in as well as removing the mats on the floor. It was great for "Dusty Finishes"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 15:58:13 GMT -5
Didn't TNA do something with this while they were still part of NWA? I could swear they made a storyline out of someone getting tossed over the top rope and being DQ'd. Not entirely sure, but I know that Abyss won the NWA Title via disqualification. If I recall correctly (from some old Bryan and Vinny shows), whoever the champion was intentionally DQed himself. I may be wrong though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 16:45:12 GMT -5
Not entirely sure, but I know that Abyss won the NWA Title via disqualification. If I recall correctly (from some old Bryan and Vinny shows), whoever the champion was intentionally DQed himself. I may be wrong though. DQ used to change the NWA Championship regardless. Not sure if it still does. I like that rule, honestly.
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Post by TheXtremisT on Aug 18, 2014 17:35:38 GMT -5
Yeah TNA used to have that rule for a championship change for a DQ, but only when they had the NWA belts.
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Post by k5 on Aug 18, 2014 18:40:08 GMT -5
A lot of wrestling federations many, many, many years ago had that as a rule. I believe Smoky Mountain Wrestling had that as a rule too. I think it was just a way to make the heels be even more over as heels by having that rule. If the referee isn't looking and a heel throws the face over the top rope, the fans know it's a DQ and the face should win. But since the referee never saw it, it never happens. yep,smokey mountain certainly did have that rule in effect. i personally enjoy the rule - it doesn't take anything away from matches and just made one more dynamic to the match. today we don't even consider going to the outside over the top rope an impactful thing, but it's certainly risky for a professional athlete to do. just look at taka in royal rumble 2000...lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 5:09:53 GMT -5
Reminds of the "catch-as-catch-can" match I found out about in WCW. I believe it was Kidman vs Malenko, if you leave the ring, you lose by DQ. Malenko voluntarily rolled out early on - no DQ. WCW folks! Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought he lost the match as soon as he did that...because didn't it turn out to be like a 7 second match because Dean had a brief lapse in judgment? Either way, I remember laughing to no end because Malenko forgot the rules to his own match.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2014 12:56:42 GMT -5
Reminds of the "catch-as-catch-can" match I found out about in WCW. I believe it was Kidman vs Malenko, if you leave the ring, you lose by DQ. Malenko voluntarily rolled out early on - no DQ. WCW folks! Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought he lost the match as soon as he did that...because didn't it turn out to be like a 7 second match because Dean had a brief lapse in judgment? Either way, I remember laughing to no end because Malenko forgot the rules to his own match. You're right, Malenko forgot the rules and after a standard chain wrestling sequence, he roles out like many have done to catch his breath, but due to the rules, the match ended on the spot.
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