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Post by Tim of thee on Aug 25, 2014 23:34:58 GMT -5
I cannot see the benefit of not getting your license and learning how to drive. It's a basic skill you should learn. It's an irrational fear to have. Not to sound judgmental, as we all have those (I do not enjoy the company of spiders or bees). Hop on that spider and ride it to K-Mart, Taba! Do it now dammit! It'd probably cost less than driving.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 0:36:54 GMT -5
I can relate....when i joined the military, i spent just about 2 years not driving a car...and that was after only a couple years of driving. I didn't feel right about getting back on the road but when i got back into it, I was okay after a couple weeks.
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Post by Hitman Bono on Aug 26, 2014 0:44:09 GMT -5
So do you watch any wrestling? Every now and then I watch little clips on youtube. Or I watch old dvds/vhs tapes. From what I've seen on youtube it looks like im not missing much. I know most people disagree with me, but I liked wrestling best in the Hogan era. It was a show, the guys were huge. People are quick to dismiss those bigger wrestlers because they claim the bigger man cant wrestle. And yet when the Big guys were on top wrestling was at it's peak. Basically I look at it this way. Wrestling is the same as Motor sports. If I go to Monster Jam I want to see a huge truck that smashes stuff and does some jumps. I want that truck to be loud and larger than life. Same with wrestling I want a wrestler to be huge, smash smaller guys, and do some maneuvers. I want the wrestler to be great on the Mic and be an extraordinary person. Sadly though what I see in wrestling today, to put it in monster truck terms, is a bunch of Ford Rangers, Chevy S10s, and Dodge Dakotas. They are considerably smaller than what I want. People love them cause they can maneuver better than a monster truck, but to me it just isnt the same. That's why I love that Brock is back in the company and is champ. This reminds me of something Kevin Nash said about big d*cks and watching porn. Obviously this sort of thing is subjective, but I just don't get the reasoning. Like, you're saying that Hogan/Bundy, Hogan/Kamala, Hogan/Andre, ect, ect is more entertaining because they're bigger? It's weird because while I whole heartedly disagree with your viewpoint when it comes to wrestling, I can't stand watching anything lower than a light heavyweight fight in MMA. My reasoning on that is that a bantamweight isn't going to beat a heavyweight...EVER. But then, I don't watch wrestling for the "sport" I watch it for the love of the particular genre... I'm the kind of guy who could argue that this year's NJPW is the best run a company has every been on, then turn around and tell a NJPW fanboy that Jerry Lawler is the greatest worker ever. I dunno... it's like I've become agnostic about everything! So, are you saying that you enjoy Hogan vs Bundy more than Mysterio vs Eddie because of the same reasons I hate watching any MMA fight involving someone under 185lbs? Or do you think it's a nostalgia thing? I only watch lesbian stuff, so I don't have an opinion on the Nash deal...plus I don't think asking another member (ha, member) their porno preference would help this 99% warning I've had since April lol. Also, are monster trucks still a thing?
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Post by Brad on Aug 26, 2014 6:42:04 GMT -5
So do you watch any wrestling? Every now and then I watch little clips on youtube. Or I watch old dvds/vhs tapes. From what I've seen on youtube it looks like im not missing much. I know most people disagree with me, but I liked wrestling best in the Hogan era. It was a show, the guys were huge. People are quick to dismiss those bigger wrestlers because they claim the bigger man cant wrestle. And yet when the Big guys were on top wrestling was at it's peak. Basically I look at it this way. Wrestling is the same as Motor sports. If I go to Monster Jam I want to see a huge truck that smashes stuff and does some jumps. I want that truck to be loud and larger than life. Same with wrestling I want a wrestler to be huge, smash smaller guys, and do some maneuvers. I want the wrestler to be great on the Mic and be an extraordinary person. Sadly though what I see in wrestling today, to put it in monster truck terms, is a bunch of Ford Rangers, Chevy S10s, and Dodge Dakotas. They are considerably smaller than what I want. People love them cause they can maneuver better than a monster truck, but to me it just isnt the same. That's why I love that Brock is back in the company and is champ. Fair enough I suppose. I enjoy most all eras of wrestling for different reasons. I appreciate the athletics of today's style but I can understand why some may not. It IS vastly different for sure.
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Post by Halloween King on Aug 26, 2014 9:40:49 GMT -5
Every now and then I watch little clips on youtube. Or I watch old dvds/vhs tapes. From what I've seen on youtube it looks like im not missing much. I know most people disagree with me, but I liked wrestling best in the Hogan era. It was a show, the guys were huge. People are quick to dismiss those bigger wrestlers because they claim the bigger man cant wrestle. And yet when the Big guys were on top wrestling was at it's peak. Basically I look at it this way. Wrestling is the same as Motor sports. If I go to Monster Jam I want to see a huge truck that smashes stuff and does some jumps. I want that truck to be loud and larger than life. Same with wrestling I want a wrestler to be huge, smash smaller guys, and do some maneuvers. I want the wrestler to be great on the Mic and be an extraordinary person. Sadly though what I see in wrestling today, to put it in monster truck terms, is a bunch of Ford Rangers, Chevy S10s, and Dodge Dakotas. They are considerably smaller than what I want. People love them cause they can maneuver better than a monster truck, but to me it just isnt the same. That's why I love that Brock is back in the company and is champ. This reminds me of something Kevin Nash said about big d*cks and watching porn. Obviously this sort of thing is subjective, but I just don't get the reasoning. Like, you're saying that Hogan/Bundy, Hogan/Kamala, Hogan/Andre, ect, ect is more entertaining because they're bigger? It's weird because while I whole heartedly disagree with your viewpoint when it comes to wrestling, I can't stand watching anything lower than a light heavyweight fight in MMA. My reasoning on that is that a bantamweight isn't going to beat a heavyweight...EVER. But then, I don't watch wrestling for the "sport" I watch it for the love of the particular genre... I'm the kind of guy who could argue that this year's NJPW is the best run a company has every been on, then turn around and tell a NJPW fanboy that Jerry Lawler is the greatest worker ever. I dunno... it's like I've become agnostic about everything! So, are you saying that you enjoy Hogan vs Bundy more than Mysterio vs Eddie because of the same reasons I hate watching any MMA fight involving someone under 185lbs? Or do you think it's a nostalgia thing? I only watch lesbian stuff, so I don't have an opinion on the Nash deal...plus I don't think asking another member (ha, member) their porno preference would help this 99% warning I've had since April lol. Also, are monster trucks still a thing? So going off of your own statement you're a contrarian? Bundy vs Hogan has a certain feel to it. Like a main event big fight feel. Mysterio vs Eddie has an under card feel to it. But see that is unfair to Eddie and Mysterio because both of those guys grew to be pretty big/muscular for their respective sizes. Look at early Eddie and Mysterio matches, they were both considerably smaller before they got their wwe title runs. Bundy vs Hogan looks like an interesting fight, if it were real. It's just like you say, in today's MMA a smaller man has no chance against a bigger man. That was the same mentality wwf had back in the day. There was no way a Red Rooster was going to beat an Andre the Giant. In today's wwe though your Daniel Bryans do beat your Bigshows. In wwf Red Rooster was enhancement talent, someone who was there to put over a big man. In wwe Daniel Bryan is a title contender. They've done a complete 180. So to someone like me who grew up watching wwf where little guys were mid carders or jobbers it's a Bizaro world to see Miz, Ziggler, Bryan, Orton, Punk, and other skinny small guys be the main attractions. I find myself asking, where are the Hogans? Where are the Warriors? Where are the Sids? Where are the Vaders? There is just a major lack of big men in wrestling these days. Look at old school wwf. Hogan was champ and every ppv he would have a new monster to fight. Boss Man, Akeem, Bundy, Sid, Studd, Andre, Kahn and so on. Today's wwe Brock is champ, but the thing is Brock is the only monstrous big man to be found in the company. Unless im forgetting someone that is, I dont watch so Idk. And yes Monster trucks are bigger than ever right now. There is Monster Jam and there is one sponsored by Lucas Oil, as far as national promotions. Walk into TRU, there might be a good chance you'll find Monster Jam toys or Bigfoot toys more easily than you would wwe toys.
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Post by Halloween King on Aug 26, 2014 9:49:02 GMT -5
Every now and then I watch little clips on youtube. Or I watch old dvds/vhs tapes. From what I've seen on youtube it looks like im not missing much. I know most people disagree with me, but I liked wrestling best in the Hogan era. It was a show, the guys were huge. People are quick to dismiss those bigger wrestlers because they claim the bigger man cant wrestle. And yet when the Big guys were on top wrestling was at it's peak. Basically I look at it this way. Wrestling is the same as Motor sports. If I go to Monster Jam I want to see a huge truck that smashes stuff and does some jumps. I want that truck to be loud and larger than life. Same with wrestling I want a wrestler to be huge, smash smaller guys, and do some maneuvers. I want the wrestler to be great on the Mic and be an extraordinary person. Sadly though what I see in wrestling today, to put it in monster truck terms, is a bunch of Ford Rangers, Chevy S10s, and Dodge Dakotas. They are considerably smaller than what I want. People love them cause they can maneuver better than a monster truck, but to me it just isnt the same. That's why I love that Brock is back in the company and is champ. Fair enough I suppose. I enjoy most all eras of wrestling for different reasons. I appreciate the athletics of today's style but I can understand why some may not. It IS vastly different for sure. Well when there are no Flashy guys and no muscle men in the business athletics is all you have left. Personally if I wanted to see an athletic match I would just watch UFC or any other MMA, or Boxing. That's what a lot of people over look. Pro Wrestling was never about athletics, it was mostly a spectacle. Look at Ric Flair, the man is proclaimed by many to have been the best wrestler of the day. And yet Flair isnt known through out the world for being able to mat wrestle, he is known for his Flash. He is known for his fancy robes, for his Woooo's, for his extravagant life style. All that flash is what made Flair stand out.
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Post by Hitman Bono on Aug 26, 2014 11:00:46 GMT -5
This reminds me of something Kevin Nash said about big d*cks and watching porn. Obviously this sort of thing is subjective, but I just don't get the reasoning. Like, you're saying that Hogan/Bundy, Hogan/Kamala, Hogan/Andre, ect, ect is more entertaining because they're bigger? It's weird because while I whole heartedly disagree with your viewpoint when it comes to wrestling, I can't stand watching anything lower than a light heavyweight fight in MMA. My reasoning on that is that a bantamweight isn't going to beat a heavyweight...EVER. But then, I don't watch wrestling for the "sport" I watch it for the love of the particular genre... I'm the kind of guy who could argue that this year's NJPW is the best run a company has every been on, then turn around and tell a NJPW fanboy that Jerry Lawler is the greatest worker ever. I dunno... it's like I've become agnostic about everything! So, are you saying that you enjoy Hogan vs Bundy more than Mysterio vs Eddie because of the same reasons I hate watching any MMA fight involving someone under 185lbs? Or do you think it's a nostalgia thing? I only watch lesbian stuff, so I don't have an opinion on the Nash deal...plus I don't think asking another member (ha, member) their porno preference would help this 99% warning I've had since April lol. Also, are monster trucks still a thing? So going off of your own statement you're a contrarian? Bundy vs Hogan has a certain feel to it. Like a main event big fight feel. Mysterio vs Eddie has an under card feel to it. But see that is unfair to Eddie and Mysterio because both of those guys grew to be pretty big/muscular for their respective sizes. Look at early Eddie and Mysterio matches, they were both considerably smaller before they got their wwe title runs. Bundy vs Hogan looks like an interesting fight, if it were real. It's just like you say, in today's MMA a smaller man has no chance against a bigger man. That was the same mentality wwf had back in the day. There was no way a Red Rooster was going to beat an Andre the Giant. In today's wwe though your Daniel Bryans do beat your Bigshows. In wwf Red Rooster was enhancement talent, someone who was there to put over a big man. In wwe Daniel Bryan is a title contender. They've done a complete 180. So to someone like me who grew up watching wwf where little guys were mid carders or jobbers it's a Bizaro world to see Miz, Ziggler, Bryan, Orton, Punk, and other skinny small guys be the main attractions. I find myself asking, where are the Hogans? Where are the Warriors? Where are the Sids? Where are the Vaders? There is just a major lack of big men in wrestling these days. Look at old school wwf. Hogan was champ and every ppv he would have a new monster to fight. Boss Man, Akeem, Bundy, Sid, Studd, Andre, Kahn and so on. Today's wwe Brock is champ, but the thing is Brock is the only monstrous big man to be found in the company. Unless im forgetting someone that is, I dont watch so Idk. And yes Monster trucks are bigger than ever right now. There is Monster Jam and there is one sponsored by Lucas Oil, as far as national promotions. Walk into TRU, there might be a good chance you'll find Monster Jam toys or Bigfoot toys more easily than you would wwe toys. I don't think being agnostic makes one a hypocrite, I think it makes them open minded... I mean this with no disrespect at all, but my point was that when I watch wrestling, I'm not the kind of fan who watches because they want to believe... See, my first favorite wrestler was Bret Hart, and my aunt blatantly told me WWF was "fake" when I was opening a massive amount of Hasbros on Christmas morning when I was 5 in 1990. So I've always cared more about the ring work than the "big d*cks". Continuing with the "no disrespect" thing, it seems like you watch wrestling trying to recapture that feeling you had when you thought it was "real". That's not wrong or right, but understanding that you feel like that makes what Vince Jr has done throughout the years a tad more stomachable! But! I TOTALLY understand that rationale, because I watch MMA in that same vein! I just so happen to be a more... sophisticated(?) pro wrestling fan than your average bear... Like I said, I could tell you that the Duggan/DiBiase "Coal Miner's Glove Steel Cage Tuxedo Loser Leaves Town Match" is the best match in the history of wrestling and with a straight face argue the same for Punk/Joe 2. I don't think that makes me a hypocrite, I think it makes me a connoisseur of the art. Also, you might not realize this, but after Eddie died they started testing for steroids again. Look at the roster and you can tell. I mean, look at Randy Orton and you can really pinpoint when they started testing for steroids. Some of the other guys were smart (or made enough money) to be using HGH, so the Wellness deal didn't effect them. That's why you won't ever see non-athletic, muscle headed, boring workers ever again... 'Cause, you can argue the "bigger than life" aspect of the character is what draws you in, but you can't say with a straight face that Bundy was better than Eddie. Hell, if you want a bold faced example of how much the times have passed you by look no further than big Dave's run in the 'E earlier this year. I swear, I've never been prouder to be a WWE fan than I was at the Royal Rumble. That wasn't an ECW crowd or anything like that. That was the "Universe" telling Vince that the time of the lazy, muscle-headed, plodding worker was over. I just want to point out that I get it's all subjective and I'm not "right" and you're not "wrong". But it does seem that you watch wrestling for a nostalgia fix, while I watch it because I like to see people have good matches, see good angles, and hear great Paul Heyman/Y2J interviews. A good example is thus; I think you're the kind of person who'd say G.I. Joe is the best cartoon ever because of the merchandise, the bigger than life characters, just the whole hype surrounding it. I on the other hand, would argue that the first 2 seasons of Ren&Stimpy is because no North American show had ever (or since) been better animated. You can turn the volume off on those first 2 seasons and still enjoy the sh*t outta it, much the same way I don't need interviews or angles to enjoy early 90's Japanese Women's pro wrestling.
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Post by Halloween King on Aug 26, 2014 16:37:51 GMT -5
So going off of your own statement you're a contrarian? Bundy vs Hogan has a certain feel to it. Like a main event big fight feel. Mysterio vs Eddie has an under card feel to it. But see that is unfair to Eddie and Mysterio because both of those guys grew to be pretty big/muscular for their respective sizes. Look at early Eddie and Mysterio matches, they were both considerably smaller before they got their wwe title runs. Bundy vs Hogan looks like an interesting fight, if it were real. It's just like you say, in today's MMA a smaller man has no chance against a bigger man. That was the same mentality wwf had back in the day. There was no way a Red Rooster was going to beat an Andre the Giant. In today's wwe though your Daniel Bryans do beat your Bigshows. In wwf Red Rooster was enhancement talent, someone who was there to put over a big man. In wwe Daniel Bryan is a title contender. They've done a complete 180. So to someone like me who grew up watching wwf where little guys were mid carders or jobbers it's a Bizaro world to see Miz, Ziggler, Bryan, Orton, Punk, and other skinny small guys be the main attractions. I find myself asking, where are the Hogans? Where are the Warriors? Where are the Sids? Where are the Vaders? There is just a major lack of big men in wrestling these days. Look at old school wwf. Hogan was champ and every ppv he would have a new monster to fight. Boss Man, Akeem, Bundy, Sid, Studd, Andre, Kahn and so on. Today's wwe Brock is champ, but the thing is Brock is the only monstrous big man to be found in the company. Unless im forgetting someone that is, I dont watch so Idk. And yes Monster trucks are bigger than ever right now. There is Monster Jam and there is one sponsored by Lucas Oil, as far as national promotions. Walk into TRU, there might be a good chance you'll find Monster Jam toys or Bigfoot toys more easily than you would wwe toys. I don't think being agnostic makes one a hypocrite, I think it makes them open minded... I mean this with no disrespect at all, but my point was that when I watch wrestling, I'm not the kind of fan who watches because they want to believe... See, my first favorite wrestler was Bret Hart, and my aunt blatantly told me WWF was "fake" when I was opening a massive amount of Hasbros on Christmas morning when I was 5 in 1990. So I've always cared more about the ring work than the "big d*cks". Continuing with the "no disrespect" thing, it seems like you watch wrestling trying to recapture that feeling you had when you thought it was "real". That's not wrong or right, but understanding that you feel like that makes what Vince Jr has done throughout the years a tad more stomachable! But! I TOTALLY understand that rationale, because I watch MMA in that same vein! I just so happen to be a more... sophisticated(?) pro wrestling fan than your average bear... Like I said, I could tell you that the Duggan/DiBiase "Coal Miner's Glove Steel Cage Tuxedo Loser Leaves Town Match" is the best match in the history of wrestling and with a straight face argue the same for Punk/Joe 2. I don't think that makes me a hypocrite, I think it makes me a connoisseur of the art. Also, you might not realize this, but after Eddie died they started testing for steroids again. Look at the roster and you can tell. I mean, look at Randy Orton and you can really pinpoint when they started testing for steroids. Some of the other guys were smart (or made enough money) to be using HGH, so the Wellness deal didn't effect them. That's why you won't ever see non-athletic, muscle headed, boring workers ever again... 'Cause, you can argue the "bigger than life" aspect of the character is what draws you in, but you can't say with a straight face that Bundy was better than Eddie. Hell, if you want a bold faced example of how much the times have passed you by look no further than big Dave's run in the 'E earlier this year. I swear, I've never been prouder to be a WWE fan than I was at the Royal Rumble. That wasn't an ECW crowd or anything like that. That was the "Universe" telling Vince that the time of the lazy, muscle-headed, plodding worker was over. I just want to point out that I get it's all subjective and I'm not "right" and you're not "wrong". But it does seem that you watch wrestling for a nostalgia fix, while I watch it because I like to see people have good matches, see good angles, and hear great Paul Heyman/Y2J interviews. A good example is thus; I think you're the kind of person who'd say G.I. Joe is the best cartoon ever because of the merchandise, the bigger than life characters, just the whole hype surrounding it. I on the other hand, would argue that the first 2 seasons of Ren&Stimpy is because no North American show had ever (or since) been better animated. You can turn the volume off on those first 2 seasons and still enjoy the sh*t outta it, much the same way I don't need interviews or angles to enjoy early 90's Japanese Women's pro wrestling. So you will tell me that I want to cling on to a time when people thought wrestling was real, but then you'll say Eddie is better than Bundy? And then you'll go on to say they have better matches now? You cant have it both ways. Either you want to come out and say wwe is better cause it admits to being nothing more than a show, or you think they are matches. See it's a show, it isnt a real match. Back in the day guys had to worry about what they did in the ring cause it could affect their next potential job. Today though indy guys do everything and anything possible to get the attention of wwe. And then once in wwe they do exactly as they are told because they know that is as good as it will ever get for them. Matches of yesteryear were much better as far as a show goes. Matches of today are better as far as acrobatics go. Eddy could jump around the ring, hit the ropes, run around much better than Bundy sure. BUT, Bundy could smash a guy once and the public would believe that Bundy's opponent was in trouble. Bundy was just such and extraordinary human being that anyone would believe that one avalanche splash would be all that was needed to knock someone out. That is missing from wrestling today. Wrestlers today look like they came from a cookie cutter, all the same shape and style as the one before them. I do see some exceptions but for the most part it's all pretty much the same. Look at Basketball, if you put together a team of 7 and 6 foot tall men up against a team of 5 and 4 foot tall men, the taller team will win. Football, put a team of 300 and 200 pound men up against a team 200 and 100 pound men, that bigger team will win. Look at motor sports, put a big engine ford mustang in a race with a smart car, the big engine car will win. The same rule applies in all of sports, bigger = better. That's why in Boxing and MMA they have weight classes, the bigger man would seriously injure a smaller man. Yet in modern day pro wrestling a small guy can easily beat a big man, it's just become so laughable. As a kid I watched a lot of football. In Football teams win and loose, so when I watched wrestling I looked at it the same way. I thought a match could go either way, I wasnt the type of fan who would argue that it was real or fake. I just saw it as I would any other sport on television. That conclusion was easy to come to back in the day cause the wrestlers were pretty much all big guys. My personal tastes in pro wrestlers aside, even the way they present wrestling these days is not to my liking. I miss the days where we had jobbers. You would see your fav wrestler squash a few jobbers before being put to test against another main roster guy. These days you'll see wwe build up a wrestler at the expense of their main roster guys, not jobbers.
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Post by Devilkiller on Aug 26, 2014 16:53:24 GMT -5
I don't think being agnostic makes one a hypocrite, I think it makes them open minded... I mean this with no disrespect at all, but my point was that when I watch wrestling, I'm not the kind of fan who watches because they want to believe... See, my first favorite wrestler was Bret Hart, and my aunt blatantly told me WWF was "fake" when I was opening a massive amount of Hasbros on Christmas morning when I was 5 in 1990. So I've always cared more about the ring work than the "big d*cks". Continuing with the "no disrespect" thing, it seems like you watch wrestling trying to recapture that feeling you had when you thought it was "real". That's not wrong or right, but understanding that you feel like that makes what Vince Jr has done throughout the years a tad more stomachable! But! I TOTALLY understand that rationale, because I watch MMA in that same vein! I just so happen to be a more... sophisticated(?) pro wrestling fan than your average bear... Like I said, I could tell you that the Duggan/DiBiase "Coal Miner's Glove Steel Cage Tuxedo Loser Leaves Town Match" is the best match in the history of wrestling and with a straight face argue the same for Punk/Joe 2. I don't think that makes me a hypocrite, I think it makes me a connoisseur of the art. Also, you might not realize this, but after Eddie died they started testing for steroids again. Look at the roster and you can tell. I mean, look at Randy Orton and you can really pinpoint when they started testing for steroids. Some of the other guys were smart (or made enough money) to be using HGH, so the Wellness deal didn't effect them. That's why you won't ever see non-athletic, muscle headed, boring workers ever again... 'Cause, you can argue the "bigger than life" aspect of the character is what draws you in, but you can't say with a straight face that Bundy was better than Eddie. Hell, if you want a bold faced example of how much the times have passed you by look no further than big Dave's run in the 'E earlier this year. I swear, I've never been prouder to be a WWE fan than I was at the Royal Rumble. That wasn't an ECW crowd or anything like that. That was the "Universe" telling Vince that the time of the lazy, muscle-headed, plodding worker was over. I just want to point out that I get it's all subjective and I'm not "right" and you're not "wrong". But it does seem that you watch wrestling for a nostalgia fix, while I watch it because I like to see people have good matches, see good angles, and hear great Paul Heyman/Y2J interviews. A good example is thus; I think you're the kind of person who'd say G.I. Joe is the best cartoon ever because of the merchandise, the bigger than life characters, just the whole hype surrounding it. I on the other hand, would argue that the first 2 seasons of Ren&Stimpy is because no North American show had ever (or since) been better animated. You can turn the volume off on those first 2 seasons and still enjoy the sh*t outta it, much the same way I don't need interviews or angles to enjoy early 90's Japanese Women's pro wrestling. So you will tell me that I want to cling on to a time when people thought wrestling was real, but then you'll say Eddie is better than Bundy? And then you'll go on to say they have better matches now? You cant have it both ways. Either you want to come out and say wwe is better cause it admits to being nothing more than a show, or you think they are matches. See it's a show, it isnt a real match. Back in the day guys had to worry about what they did in the ring cause it could affect their next potential job. Today though indy guys do everything and anything possible to get the attention of wwe. And then once in wwe they do exactly as they are told because they know that is as good as it will ever get for them. Matches of yesteryear were much better as far as a show goes. Matches of today are better as far as acrobatics go. Eddy could jump around the ring, hit the ropes, run around much better than Bundy sure. BUT, Bundy could smash a guy once and the public would believe that Bundy's opponent was in trouble. Bundy was just such and extraordinary human being that anyone would believe that one avalanche splash would be all that was needed to knock someone out. That is missing from wrestling today. Wrestlers today look like they came from a cookie cutter, all the same shape and style as the one before them. I do see some exceptions but for the most part it's all pretty much the same. Look at Basketball, if you put together a team of 7 and 6 foot tall men up against a team of 5 and 4 foot tall men, the taller team will win. Football, put a team of 300 and 200 pound men up against a team 200 and 100 pound men, that bigger team will win. Look at motor sports, put a big engine ford mustang in a race with a smart car, the big engine car will win. The same rule applies in all of sports, bigger = better. That's why in Boxing and MMA they have weight classes, the bigger man would seriously injure a smaller man. Yet in modern day pro wrestling a small guy can easily beat a big man, it's just become so laughable. As a kid I watched a lot of football. In Football teams win and loose, so when I watched wrestling I looked at it the same way. I thought a match could go either way, I wasnt the type of fan who would argue that it was real or fake. I just saw it as I would any other sport on television. That conclusion was easy to come to back in the day cause the wrestlers were pretty much all big guys. My personal tastes in pro wrestlers aside, even the way they present wrestling these days is not to my liking. I miss the days where we had jobbers. You would see your fav wrestler squash a few jobbers before being put to test against another main roster guy. These days you'll see wwe build up a wrestler at the expense of their main roster guys, not jobbers. I'm just going to say this, I would much rather have someone who worked hard for his body and is smaller than have some steroid freak wrestle with muscles oversize. I guess you're a fan of John Cena, seeing as he's big and all.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Aug 26, 2014 17:46:55 GMT -5
This thread started as a fear of driving and turned into a Bundy-Eddie arguement lol
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Post by Halloween King on Aug 26, 2014 18:15:27 GMT -5
This thread started as a fear of driving and turned into a Bundy-Eddie arguement lol Yeah it's gone way off topic.
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Post by Hitman Bono on Aug 26, 2014 20:02:32 GMT -5
I wouldn't call it an argument, rather just 2 people talking about the merits of the 80s WWF vs WWE. I understand his position, as the WWF was run the same way from 1960-1993, so it's not like Malcom's in the minority or anything.
My point was that I'm more of a workrate connoisseur and have been since I watched Wresltemania 8 live. That doesn't make be a "better" fan or anything. While Malcom's nostalgia comes from jobber matches and larger than life characters, my nostalgia comes from being entranced by Bret's matches... I'm telling ya, he took on Virgil once on SuperStars for the title, and I couldn't sleep all week in preparation of that match!
And I didn't derail nothing! If you look back you'll see that I had a very on topic discussion about how the fear of driving is probably a sign of bigger anxiety issues. Seriously, if you're in your 20's and don't live in NYC, not driving is effecting ones way of life and they should see a doctor about it. I recently got on some anti-anxiety meds and they've changed my life in so many ways it's not even funny.
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Post by JCF on Aug 28, 2014 16:10:21 GMT -5
Take some lessons and get a feel of the road. Don't be afraid of it. Be more concerned with things you'll miss out on without having your license.
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Post by Rattlehead on Aug 29, 2014 15:43:09 GMT -5
Don't put much thought into it, yeah you not only have to watch for yourself but others too , trust us, you'll be alright, you seem very cautious , that's all that matters. When you get used to it you'll be driving without fear, hope you overcome it soon and achieve your dreams because this is a challenge for you to step forward.
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Post by Hitman Bono on Aug 29, 2014 16:03:25 GMT -5
Don't put much thought into it, yeah you not only have to watch for yourself but others too , trust us, you'll be alright, you seem very cautious , that's all that matters. When you get used to it you'll be driving without fear, hope you overcome it soon and achieve your dreams because this is a challenge for you to step forward. Dude, are you the Shredder who used to do RAW recaps on here '05-'07ish?
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Post by Rattlehead on Aug 29, 2014 16:11:37 GMT -5
Don't put much thought into it, yeah you not only have to watch for yourself but others too , trust us, you'll be alright, you seem very cautious , that's all that matters. When you get used to it you'll be driving without fear, hope you overcome it soon and achieve your dreams because this is a challenge for you to step forward. Dude, are you the Shredder who used to do RAW recaps on here '05-'07ish? No , sorry .... I thought my user name hasn't been used >:/ My old user name before I left though was SoulTaker, which I should go back to
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 7:32:28 GMT -5
It can get nerve racking
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Post by Hendrix83 on Aug 30, 2014 21:46:24 GMT -5
I don't know... Driving is kind of like sex. It's more nerve-racking to think about how to do it right, or what might go wrong. But soon it becomes second nature. Life is full of moments where we have to conquer our fears or be conquered by them. Depending on other people to drive you around - or worse, depending on the public transportation system - is no way to live. Driving = Freedom.
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Post by Gangrel-Brood on Aug 31, 2014 3:54:39 GMT -5
For those of you who dont have licenses, how do you get around? Do you guys live in big cities? I was wondering the same thing as I scrolled through. I live in the midwest, and all the good jobs (aka not farming-related) in the area are at least twenty-five miles away, so I have no choice but to drive. I was scared at the thought while I was growing up, but I'm not gonna lie, I love it. Find yourself a car that handles the way you like like someone else said and it's a very enjoyable experience bein' out on the road. The freedom to essentially go wherever you want, whenever you want is empowering. The only time I dislike getting behind the wheel is whenever we have one of those freak snowstorms and the plows aren't quick enough to allow for much of an indication as to where the road is. Even then, I at least give it a shot. I've only been in one accident in the 12 years I've been driving, and it was totally my fault, and y'know what? $1200 ($1000 for another rustbucket and $200 for court fees...which is rather easy to pay for if you have a steady job) and I was back on the road with no problem. Yeah, worse accidents happen and people lose lives, but in those cases, it would've been just as likely for you to have been a passenger in the vehicle in those situations. Keep it between the lines, mind the speed limit, check your mirrors, watch for other cars (and, in my case, large animals crossing the road), call in if you're not comfortable with traveling to work in inclimate weather, and obey all traffic laws and you're golden. As for journalism, that's not exactly something you can jump into straight out of high school; most of the businesses (that are still around) are more likely to hire someone with a degree (or at least some credits) than someone who came in off the street (and your mom drove you there...okay, that was a joke, sorry).
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