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Post by bababooey on Sept 10, 2014 9:47:42 GMT -5
Hey everyone. Thought this would be an interesting topic for a discussion.
So I'm planning on asking for a raise at work soon, but I'm trying to figure out the best way to do it. I used to be able to talk candidly with my manager, but I was promoted (without a raise) and she is no longer my manager.
I'm planning on asking for a $25,000 a year raise which worries me a bit. I honestly think even that is still low pay for the amount of work I do, but my boss is really cheap and tries to squeeze people as much as possible. Also, he hates having to pay people and if you start the conversation on the wrong foot he gets belligerent and just shuts down.
The reasons I was planning on giving as support are as follows. Since January, I was given two promotions that no one even bothered to discuss with me until after the fact, thus not giving me an opportunity to negotiate for more money. Lately, I've been putting in a lot of overtime with no extra pay. I literally have some kinda of role in every single department in the company. Finance is my main role, but I'm also involved in HR, Customer Service, IT, Production, Marketing, Sales, and Fulfillment.
Also, I'm not planning on bringing this up but I got an email to give an employee a raise "in recognition of her increased responsibility." This will be her second raise in the last three months, and she doesn't do half of what I do.
So for you guys, what do you consider proper etiquette for asking for a raise? Obviously, you don't want to come off as confrontational or demanding, but if management isn't recognizing and rewarding your hard work, you have to ask the question.
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Post by JC Motors on Sept 10, 2014 16:17:39 GMT -5
I don't ask since I get one every year
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Post by Mr. K.O on Sept 10, 2014 16:28:53 GMT -5
Just simply ask, "Can I have a raise?". If they say no, drop those ers with an RKO!
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 10, 2014 16:30:30 GMT -5
$25k more a year is quite a bit of money. I hope you're not making $30-$40k a year now cause asking for double or more could quickly get you laughed at and ran off.
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Post by bababooey on Sept 10, 2014 17:06:55 GMT -5
$25k more a year is quite a bit of money. I hope you're not making $30-$40k a year now cause asking for double or more could quickly get you laughed at and ran off. I'm making $55,000, and I want to ask for $80,000. I was made a manager in February, and all the other managers make more than $80,000. Plus if I left, they would need to bring in 3 or 4 new people to replace me. My workload is something that I have acquired bit by bit. One new person coming in wouldn't be able to do it all right off the bat, and they need someone who can do the work right away. Asking for a big raise like that is a big jump, but it's really what I deserve. They paid me less than what I was asking from the start, my workload has probably tripled since then, and I don't get compensated in any way for my overtime. Just last week I put in a 12 hour day but was only paid for 8 hours. I'm kind of in the driver's seat, because I'd be more than happy to go somewhere else and have a reduced workload, if I don't get the raise. I just wanna go into the discussion in a professional manner so there's no awkwardness in me trying to get what I deserve.
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Post by acura143 on Sept 10, 2014 20:25:18 GMT -5
$25k more a year is quite a bit of money. I hope you're not making $30-$40k a year now cause asking for double or more could quickly get you laughed at and ran off. I'm making $55,000, and I want to ask for $80,000. I was made a manager in February, and all the other managers make more than $80,000. Plus if I left, they would need to bring in 3 or 4 new people to replace me. My workload is something that I have acquired bit by bit. One new person coming in wouldn't be able to do it all right off the bat, and they need someone who can do the work right away. Asking for a big raise like that is a big jump, but it's really what I deserve. They paid me less than what I was asking from the start, my workload has probably tripled since then, and I don't get compensated in any way for my overtime. Just last week I put in a 12 hour day but was only paid for 8 hours. I'm kind of in the driver's seat, because I'd be more than happy to go somewhere else and have a reduced workload, if I don't get the raise. I just wanna go into the discussion in a professional manner so there's no awkwardness in me trying to get what I deserve. That's a lot to ask but it looks like they are taking advantage of you. I would bring it up and go over all the jobs responsibilities you do and to justify the amount you are asking. I get a raise every year so I don't have to ask.
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Post by Mox on Sept 10, 2014 20:35:26 GMT -5
Don't do it. But it seems like you're not worried, so more power to you.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 21:20:03 GMT -5
Don't do it. But it seems like you're not worried, so more power to you. It sounds like what you want is fair for what others make in your position. Just be prepared to move on if they say no. Go look for someone that's willing to give fair market value. I'd look at it as a reasonable request, but not all business is reasonable - so go in with confidence & examples of how you earn/save them money and why you're worth it.
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Post by The Yes Man on Sept 10, 2014 21:45:22 GMT -5
I wouldn't ask for that much immediately, maybe ask for another $5000-10000 per year. If that goes well then ask a little bit more in 6 months.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 21:56:37 GMT -5
Make it seem like another company is offering more and say you want to stay where you're at but the money is needed and see if they will match it.
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Post by HHH316 on Sept 10, 2014 22:24:13 GMT -5
Get all of your facts straight so you are prepared when you ask. Shoot high in your asking price because it they will probably counter with something lower, then you play the negotiation game.
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 10, 2014 22:31:18 GMT -5
Get all of your facts straight so you are prepared when you ask. Shoot high in your asking price because it they will probably counter with something lower, then you play the negotiation game. This! And Im not sure if I would mention/say it takes 2 people to do my job cause they very well could take it as either A)You're an arrogant SOB or B)They'll let you go and get 2-3 part timers and the company will save money by not having to provide benefits.
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Post by The Mask of Truth on Sept 10, 2014 23:46:34 GMT -5
Ask nicely, if they say no, pull a CM Punk....drop a pipe bomb and walk out.
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Post by sonstuds on Sept 10, 2014 23:55:26 GMT -5
Pull a professional athlete and hold out.
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Post by Valbroski on Sept 11, 2014 0:12:29 GMT -5
I'm not making nearly as much money as you are at my job but when I asked for a raise I pretty much said either give me a raise or I'm out because at that point I was overworked and being taken advantage of. I always prided myself on being a hard worker so I let that mentality get the best of me and allowed it to do stupid things to me like agreeing to stay later or come in on my days off. Eventually managers became dependent on it and I had to speak up because I was making the same amount of people who did 1/3 of the work I did. Two days later he told me I had my raise. Still proud to this day of that because I feel like I don't hold my ground as often as I should and that time I really did.
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Post by Chief on Sept 11, 2014 0:12:52 GMT -5
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Post by Epic Z on Sept 11, 2014 1:28:06 GMT -5
Make it seem like another company is offering more and say you want to stay where you're at but the money is needed and see if they will match it. This. Make it seem like you really want to stay at your current job, but you are willing to leave if you don't get the raise.
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Post by Billy the Kid on Sept 11, 2014 4:10:18 GMT -5
I'm not making nearly as much money as you are at my job but when I asked for a raise I pretty much said either give me a raise or I'm out because at that point I was overworked and being taken advantage of. I always prided myself on being a hard worker so I let that mentality get the best of me and allowed it to do stupid things to me like agreeing to stay later or come in on my days off. Eventually managers became dependent on it and I had to speak up because I was making the same amount of people who did 1/3 of the work I did. Two days later he told me I had my raise. Still proud to this day of that because I feel like I don't hold my ground as often as I should and that time I really did. While I normally would agree with this, I have experienced this secondhand when an employee that is under me tried this. I had no authority to give her what she wanted so I passed it along to my boss. She gave them a choice: either give her a raise or she is going to quit. The came to her a few hours later and told her that it would be her last day. Bluffing can work sometimes, but in this job market and economy, it's best not to bluff and just be honest. I'm not saying people aren't worth the trouble but if companies can get someone who makes less to do more, they're going to. Unless you really have something else to fall back on, I wouldn't give them an ultimatum. Just be honest and tell them you feel that you're worth more than what you're being paid and while you're happy with where you are and with your job, you feel that you should be making more money. If they decide to give you a raise, great. If not, start looking for another job quietly and if you're able to secure another job elsewhere where you're making what you're worth, then I would either give them an ultimatum or a two week notice because either way, it will get you what you're looking for.
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Post by bababooey on Sept 11, 2014 7:52:20 GMT -5
I'm definitely not going to say there is an other offer on the table. I may bring up that during the year, I did turn down other offers to stay with this company (That is true. But when that happened I was in a better situation then.)
Also, I can't ask for a little bit of a raise at a time, because even getting one raise is a big deal and nearly impossible in this company. The only reason there's one girl that has gotten 2 raises in the last 3 months is because one of the owners personally hired her, so she's been getting special treatment since she started.
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Post by Valbroski on Sept 11, 2014 8:11:47 GMT -5
I'm not making nearly as much money as you are at my job but when I asked for a raise I pretty much said either give me a raise or I'm out because at that point I was overworked and being taken advantage of. I always prided myself on being a hard worker so I let that mentality get the best of me and allowed it to do stupid things to me like agreeing to stay later or come in on my days off. Eventually managers became dependent on it and I had to speak up because I was making the same amount of people who did 1/3 of the work I did. Two days later he told me I had my raise. Still proud to this day of that because I feel like I don't hold my ground as often as I should and that time I really did. While I normally would agree with this, I have experienced this secondhand when an employee that is under me tried this. I had no authority to give her what she wanted so I passed it along to my boss. She gave them a choice: either give her a raise or she is going to quit. The came to her a few hours later and told her that it would be her last day. Bluffing can work sometimes, but in this job market and economy, it's best not to bluff and just be honest. I'm not saying people aren't worth the trouble but if companies can get someone who makes less to do more, they're going to. Unless you really have something else to fall back on, I wouldn't give them an ultimatum. Just be honest and tell them you feel that you're worth more than what you're being paid and while you're happy with where you are and with your job, you feel that you should be making more money. If they decide to give you a raise, great. If not, start looking for another job quietly and if you're able to secure another job elsewhere where you're making what you're worth, then I would either give them an ultimatum or a two week notice because either way, it will get you what you're looking for. Oh on I agree you shouldn't bluff I was being genuine lol I was just sick of the job at the time and didn't mind the idea of quitting for real.
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