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Post by Joey Cush on Sept 11, 2014 22:38:35 GMT -5
Am I the only one who's wondering why WWE never had Cena lose on RAW (hell, even a PPV) via a roll up victory or grabbing his shorts? Absolutely random but just a thought, maybe they have but not in my recent memory. I feel like it'd help both Cena and his opponent.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 22:39:35 GMT -5
I swear it happened in 2011 sometime.
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Post by Joey Cush on Sept 11, 2014 22:40:39 GMT -5
I swear it happened in 2011 sometime. Has it? I really couldnt think of any. And if so, thats still an astounding 3 years ago Lol |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 22:42:17 GMT -5
I swear it happened in 2011 sometime. Has it? I really couldnt think of any. And if so, thats still an astounding 3 years ago Lol I THINK so. I think it was against someone in the Nexus, I could be totally wrong though. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 22:49:32 GMT -5
Because it shows he isn't weak, he got best by cheating or by surprise. They want to protect Super Cena.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Sept 11, 2014 23:10:43 GMT -5
None of the main event guys really lose by flash roll-up... more of a lower card/Diva thing, really, and honestly if they got rid of it entirely I wouldn't argue.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 23:15:14 GMT -5
Has it? I really couldnt think of any. And if so, thats still an astounding 3 years ago Lol I THINK so. I think it was against someone in the Nexus, I could be totally wrong though. Slater got a 3 count on Edge with a roll up during the Nexus angle, you might be thinking of that. |
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Post by Joey Cush on Sept 11, 2014 23:37:27 GMT -5
None of the main event guys really lose by flash roll-up... more of a lower card/Diva thing, really, and honestly if they got rid of it entirely I wouldn't argue. Jericho/Rock Rumble 02 was basically a cheap roll up, so it can definitely be used for the main event. Im not saying I would love for that to be a PPV finish, but I wouldnt knock it if something like this happened next week: Miz Vs Cena is the Main Event for RAW (hype up for Miz/Ziggler and Cena/Lesnar). During the match Lesnars music hits, Cena walks over to the ropes preparing for Lesnar , after a few seconds out pops Heyman and then Miz rolls up Cena for the 3. Makes Miz look good going into his match at NOC and no harm done to Cena. Just a thought I suppose. |
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Post by Evil Abed on Sept 11, 2014 23:51:00 GMT -5
I honestly can't even think of that many times over the years where Cena has lost at all on Raw/SD (not counting tag matches unless he was the one pinned) I went back and looked Cena hasn't lost a match on TV (not counting PPV) via pinfall or submission since April 29th, 2013. That is absolutely disgusting.
Only times Cena has lost cleanly on TV via pinfall or submission since winning the WWE Title
- Oct 2009 Raw vs. Triple H
- Apr 2013 Raw 6 Man Tag vs. Shield
- July 2010 Raw Nexus vs. Cena 6 on 1 Handicap
- Apr 2007 Raw vs. Shawn Michaels
Yup thats it a grand total of 4 TIMES over almost 10 YEARS
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Sept 11, 2014 23:53:06 GMT -5
None of the main event guys really lose by flash roll-up... more of a lower card/Diva thing, really, and honestly if they got rid of it entirely I wouldn't argue. Jericho/Rock Rumble 02 was basically a cheap roll up, so it can definitely be used for the main event. Im not saying I would love for that to be a PPV finish, but I wouldnt knock it if something like this happened next week: Miz Vs Cena is the Main Event for RAW (hype up for Miz/Ziggler and Cena/Lesnar). During the match Lesnars music hits, Cena walks over to the ropes preparing for Lesnar , after a few seconds out pops Heyman and then Miz rolls up Cena for the 3. Makes Miz look good going into his match at NOC and no harm done to Cena. Just a thought I suppose. I *HATE* the distraction roll-up. Doesn't make the person getting the win look good, just makes the person who loses look dumb. When music plays, you don't automatically have to stop what you're doing. When people are dancing on the outside, you don't automatically have to look at them. Unless they're causing you physical harm, why should you care what happens on the outside? Only exception I'd give is when the bunny was attacking Slater and distracted Titus... cause who wouldn't be distracted by a giant bunny attacking your friend? |
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Post by Mr Angry Cena on Sept 11, 2014 23:54:57 GMT -5
I honestly can't even think of that many times over the years where Cena has lost at all on Raw/SD (not counting tag matches unless he was the one pinned) I went back and looked Cena hasn't lost a match on TV (not counting PPV) via pinfall or submission since April 29th, 2013. That is absolutely disgusting. Only times Cena has lost cleanly on TV via pinfall or submission since winning the WWE Title - Oct 2009 Raw vs. Triple H - Apr 2013 Raw 6 Man Tag vs. Shield - July 2010 Raw Nexus vs. Cena 6 on 1 Handicap - Apr 2007 Raw vs. Shawn Michaels Yup thats it a grand total of 4 TIMES over almost 10 YEARSDamn! This Cena guy must be good.  |
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Post by Evil Abed on Sept 12, 2014 0:09:02 GMT -5
I honestly can't even think of that many times over the years where Cena has lost at all on Raw/SD (not counting tag matches unless he was the one pinned) I went back and looked Cena hasn't lost a match on TV (not counting PPV) via pinfall or submission since April 29th, 2013. That is absolutely disgusting. Only times Cena has lost cleanly on TV via pinfall or submission since winning the WWE Title - Oct 2009 Raw vs. Triple H - Apr 2013 Raw 6 Man Tag vs. Shield - July 2010 Raw Nexus vs. Cena 6 on 1 Handicap - Apr 2007 Raw vs. Shawn Michaels Yup thats it a grand total of 4 TIMES over almost 10 YEARSDamn! This Cena guy must be good. Lol something like that |
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Post by Joey Cush on Sept 12, 2014 0:14:50 GMT -5
Jericho/Rock Rumble 02 was basically a cheap roll up, so it can definitely be used for the main event. Im not saying I would love for that to be a PPV finish, but I wouldnt knock it if something like this happened next week: Miz Vs Cena is the Main Event for RAW (hype up for Miz/Ziggler and Cena/Lesnar). During the match Lesnars music hits, Cena walks over to the ropes preparing for Lesnar , after a few seconds out pops Heyman and then Miz rolls up Cena for the 3. Makes Miz look good going into his match at NOC and no harm done to Cena. Just a thought I suppose. I *HATE* the distraction roll-up. Doesn't make the person getting the win look good, just makes the person who loses look dumb. When music plays, you don't automatically have to stop what you're doing. When people are dancing on the outside, you don't automatically have to look at them. Unless they're causing you physical harm, why should you care what happens on the outside? Only exception I'd give is when the bunny was attacking Slater and distracted Titus... cause who wouldn't be distracted by a giant bunny attacking your friend? I think in this situation, if Im John Cena and Lesnars music hits you bet your ass im paying attention to that ramp or else I'd be on the receiving end of another 16 german suplexes Lol |
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Post by rustyy on Sept 12, 2014 0:23:39 GMT -5
I honestly can't even think of that many times over the years where Cena has lost at all on Raw/SD (not counting tag matches unless he was the one pinned) I went back and looked Cena hasn't lost a match on TV (not counting PPV) via pinfall or submission since April 29th, 2013. That is absolutely disgusting. Only times Cena has lost cleanly on TV via pinfall or submission since winning the WWE Title - Oct 2009 Raw vs. Triple H - Apr 2013 Raw 6 Man Tag vs. Shield - July 2010 Raw Nexus vs. Cena 6 on 1 Handicap - Apr 2007 Raw vs. Shawn Michaels Yup thats it a grand total of 4 TIMES over almost 10 YEARSLol a 6 on 1 really isn't clean. Cena doesn't put people over unless it's really necessary. Rock lost a lot, so that proves it can be done and you can still look good. He's just like SCSA, insecure for whatever reason. And to be fair he lost to DB at SS. And you're thinking of WM28 where he lost to Rocky. |
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Post by Evil Abed on Sept 12, 2014 0:26:45 GMT -5
I honestly can't even think of that many times over the years where Cena has lost at all on Raw/SD (not counting tag matches unless he was the one pinned) I went back and looked Cena hasn't lost a match on TV (not counting PPV) via pinfall or submission since April 29th, 2013. That is absolutely disgusting. Only times Cena has lost cleanly on TV via pinfall or submission since winning the WWE Title - Oct 2009 Raw vs. Triple H - Apr 2013 Raw 6 Man Tag vs. Shield - July 2010 Raw Nexus vs. Cena 6 on 1 Handicap - Apr 2007 Raw vs. Shawn Michaels Yup thats it a grand total of 4 TIMES over almost 10 YEARSLol a 6 on 1 really isn't clean. Cena doesn't put people over unless it's really necessary. Rock lost a lot, so that proves it can be done and you can still look good. He's just like SCSA, insecure for whatever reason. And to be fair he lost to DB at SS. And you're thinking of WM28 where he lost to Rocky. I said in the post I wasn't counting PPV's, just Raw and SD. |
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Post by rustyy on Sept 12, 2014 0:29:25 GMT -5
Lol a 6 on 1 really isn't clean. Cena doesn't put people over unless it's really necessary. Rock lost a lot, so that proves it can be done and you can still look good. He's just like SCSA, insecure for whatever reason. And to be fair he lost to DB at SS. And you're thinking of WM28 where he lost to Rocky. I said in the post I wasn't counting PPV's, just Raw and SD. Oh my bad lol, which match did he lost on April 29th? Shield? |
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Post by Evil Abed on Sept 12, 2014 0:41:52 GMT -5
I said in the post I wasn't counting PPV's, just Raw and SD. Oh my bad lol, which match did he lost on April 29th? Shield? Yea it was Cena/Hell No vs. Shield in an elimination match. I read results he was pinned by Reigns. |
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Sept 12, 2014 7:04:50 GMT -5
It's to make it a bigger deal when John Cena does lose.
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Post by marino13 on Sept 12, 2014 7:43:44 GMT -5
I see both sides of the coin...
Heads: I'd love to see Sheamus, Rollins, or Cesaro get a quick roll up win over Cena just once. It would catch a lot of fans by surprise. And RAW can use a few more surprises every now and then.
Tails: Much like Kevstaaa said, now when Cena loses it has a much larger impact. It's more shocking. Whomever does beat him is a made man.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 7:44:51 GMT -5
I honestly can't even think of that many times over the years where Cena has lost at all on Raw/SD (not counting tag matches unless he was the one pinned) I went back and looked Cena hasn't lost a match on TV (not counting PPV) via pinfall or submission since April 29th, 2013. That is absolutely disgusting. Only times Cena has lost cleanly on TV via pinfall or submission since winning the WWE Title - Oct 2009 Raw vs. Triple H - Apr 2013 Raw 6 Man Tag vs. Shield - July 2010 Raw Nexus vs. Cena 6 on 1 Handicap - Apr 2007 Raw vs. Shawn Michaels Yup thats it a grand total of 4 TIMES over almost 10 YEARSYou mean they save people beating Cena for when you have to pay to see it?! Shocking! Its like they want you to buy their PPVs or the Network or something! How crazy. |
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