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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Sept 16, 2014 19:32:53 GMT -5
Long story short, I ordered a hoodie on ebay through this store. Paid, done deal. Apparently it was out of stock so they refunded me and sent me a promo code for their site for the inconvenience. I found another hoodie I liked, used to code, and it gave me a 90% discount. It was supposed to be 10% apparently. They had already emailed me an order confirmation and tracking before emailing me an invoice for the remainder I "owed". I told them they need to honor their price, especially since its the second time they made an error,so they just cancelled it and refunded me (After I recieved a confirmation/tracking) . Is there anything I can do, or am I just assed out?
edit - paypal cant do anything. Im just assed out by bad business.
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Post by Mox on Sept 16, 2014 19:34:33 GMT -5
Take it up with ebay.
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KRAYZIE BONE
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Sept 16, 2014 19:35:19 GMT -5
Im on hold with paypal now. The second order was through the store's site, not ebay.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 19:58:23 GMT -5
Im on hold with paypal now. The second order was through the store's site, not ebay. I'm unsure who's responsible for online store issues (Better Business Bureau or maybe the FCC?); find out and report them. There's not much you can do except report a claim against them. They can technically cancel an order for any reason...but word of mouth will bite them. Can't fix stupid.
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Post by Triple S on Sept 16, 2014 20:07:07 GMT -5
You're upset because the store didn't give you a discount on top of the discount they already gave you, for their mistake?
Accept the 10% and move on. They didn't have to give you anything for their first error. Could've just said "Hoodie is sold out, you're SOL. Pick another one."
EDIT - I mean, it sucks. Don't get me wrong... but they didn't take any money from you and you tried to take advantage of the mistake.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 20:15:46 GMT -5
You're upset because the store didn't give you a discount on top of the discount they already gave you, for their mistake? Accept the 10% and move on. They didn't have to give you anything for their first error. Could've just said "Hoodie is sold out, you're SOL. Pick another one." EDIT - I mean, it sucks. Don't get me wrong... but they didn't take any money from you and you tried to take advantage of the mistake. I'd be pretty perturbed if someone oversold something on eBay & it meant I couldn't get it. I get that they shouldn't have to honor the 90% off...but I'd be annoyed by their mistake and then sending me tracking - only to say, btw you owe us the rest. It's pretty unprofessional & they wouldn't get my business after that. I do agree that they aren't terrible people for not honoring a mistake at checkout for 90% off.
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KRAYZIE BONE
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Sept 16, 2014 20:18:05 GMT -5
You're upset because the store didn't give you a discount on top of the discount they already gave you, for their mistake? Accept the 10% and move on. They didn't have to give you anything for their first error. Could've just said "Hoodie is sold out, you're SOL. Pick another one." EDIT - I mean, it sucks. Don't get me wrong... but they didn't take any money from you and you tried to take advantage of the mistake. I'd be pretty perturbed if someone oversold something on eBay & it meant I couldn't get it. I get that they shouldn't have to honor the 90% off...but I'd be annoyed by their mistake and then sending me tracking - only to say, btw you owe us the rest. It's pretty unprofessional & they wouldn't get my business after that. I do agree that they aren't terrible people for not honoring a mistake at checkout for 90% off. Exactly. I get that the business owner doesnt want to sell me a $55 hoodie for $5. But some times its good busniess, and the right thing to do, to honor your mistake(s). Twice they messed up. I would say three times seeing how they didnt realize their error until after sending me tracking info.
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Post by Triple S on Sept 16, 2014 20:20:29 GMT -5
You're upset because the store didn't give you a discount on top of the discount they already gave you, for their mistake? Accept the 10% and move on. They didn't have to give you anything for their first error. Could've just said "Hoodie is sold out, you're SOL. Pick another one." EDIT - I mean, it sucks. Don't get me wrong... but they didn't take any money from you and you tried to take advantage of the mistake. I'd be pretty perturbed if someone oversold something on eBay & it meant I couldn't get it. I get that they shouldn't have to honor the 90% off...but I'd be annoyed by their mistake and then sending me tracking - only to say, btw you owe us the rest. It's pretty unprofessional & they wouldn't get my business after that. I do agree that they aren't terrible people for not honoring a mistake at checkout for 90% off. His complaint is about them canceling the second order. He "owed" on the second order as well... which was the one that had the 90% accidentally taken off. The store just wanted the remaining 80% paid for. Once he refused, they canceled the order and brought the transaction back to square one.
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Post by Triple S on Sept 16, 2014 20:23:20 GMT -5
I'd be pretty perturbed if someone oversold something on eBay & it meant I couldn't get it. I get that they shouldn't have to honor the 90% off...but I'd be annoyed by their mistake and then sending me tracking - only to say, btw you owe us the rest. It's pretty unprofessional & they wouldn't get my business after that. I do agree that they aren't terrible people for not honoring a mistake at checkout for 90% off. Exactly. I get that the business owner doesnt want to sell me a $55 hoodie for $5. But some times its good busniess, and the right thing to do, to honor your mistake(s). Twice they messed up. I would say three times seeing how they didnt realize their error until after sending me tracking info. You tried to take advantage of their mistake, when anyone with common sense wouldn't give you a $55 hoodie for $5. You're upset that they chose to cancel the order. Again, it sucks... but that's also what you get for trying to take extreme advantage of a mistake by a company.
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Sept 16, 2014 20:24:00 GMT -5
I'd be pretty perturbed if someone oversold something on eBay & it meant I couldn't get it. I get that they shouldn't have to honor the 90% off...but I'd be annoyed by their mistake and then sending me tracking - only to say, btw you owe us the rest. It's pretty unprofessional & they wouldn't get my business after that. I do agree that they aren't terrible people for not honoring a mistake at checkout for 90% off. His complaint is about them canceling the second order. He "owed" on the second order as well... which was the one that had the 90% accidentally taken off. The store just wanted the remaining 80% paid for. Once he refused, they canceled the order and brought the transaction back to square one. Call me crazy, but once an order confirmation and tracking is sent, consider that item bought. To then go in after that and invoice for more money is just bad busniess. Like the other poster said, bad word of mouth travels fast. Not worth the $50 the guy saved. Its just like walking into Target, or any legit place of business and buying an item marked incorrectly. They will honor the price and bite the bullet.
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Sept 16, 2014 20:24:21 GMT -5
Exactly. I get that the business owner doesnt want to sell me a $55 hoodie for $5. But some times its good busniess, and the right thing to do, to honor your mistake(s). Twice they messed up. I would say three times seeing how they didnt realize their error until after sending me tracking info. You tried to take advantage of their mistake, when anyone with common sense wouldn't give you a $55 hoodie for $5. You're upset that they chose to cancel the order. Again, it sucks... but that's also what you get for trying to take extreme advantage of a mistake by a company. smh
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Post by Triple S on Sept 16, 2014 20:31:59 GMT -5
His complaint is about them canceling the second order. He "owed" on the second order as well... which was the one that had the 90% accidentally taken off. The store just wanted the remaining 80% paid for. Once he refused, they canceled the order and brought the transaction back to square one. Call me crazy, but once an order confirmation and tracking is sent, consider that item bought. To then go in after that and invoice for more money is just bad busniess. Like the other poster said, bad word of mouth travels fast. Not worth the $50 the guy saved. Its just like walking into Target, or any legit place of business and buying an item marked incorrectly. They will honor the price and bite the bullet. Yes. Which is the choice of the owner/company. Believe me, this small instance isn't going to kill his/their business. If these are common practices from this company, then it's only a matter of time before they're out of business. You can smack/shake your head all you want. They were generous enough to give you 10% off of an order for their mistake. It accidentally gave you an addition 80% and you expect to have it at that price. Some companies may do that, which is all their choice. Don't like it? Take your business elsewhere... which I'm sure you will.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 20:39:56 GMT -5
I'd be pretty perturbed if someone oversold something on eBay & it meant I couldn't get it. I get that they shouldn't have to honor the 90% off...but I'd be annoyed by their mistake and then sending me tracking - only to say, btw you owe us the rest. It's pretty unprofessional & they wouldn't get my business after that. I do agree that they aren't terrible people for not honoring a mistake at checkout for 90% off. His complaint is about them canceling the second order. He "owed" on the second order as well... which was the one that had the 90% accidentally taken off. The store just wanted the remaining 80% paid for. Once he refused, they canceled the order and brought the transaction back to square one. I'm not arguing against the store having the right to cancel the second order (or amend it). I do think his frustration is over the entire situation of both orders though. I'd personally cancel my order for their unprofessionalism, but that's just me. I get that he wanted it for the mistake price, but his take is that, it's unfair to take an order, give a receipt, tracking & then recognize a mistake that the customer owes more money. Where I live (having worked retail), if something is scanned at the register and comes up incorrectly, the store is legally obligated to honor that price (or whatever price, if correctly labelled, it shows on display...even if the sale has expired). A store wouldn't give you a receipt for the item & then say, wait...that's wrong. I have no problem with an online store needing to fix the issue & it's completely fair for them to do so...but it's also fair for him to be frustrated & want them to honor a transaction that already was cleared. If they don't want to honor it, it'll mean losing him as a customer for good probably - so neither really win no matter what.
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Sept 16, 2014 20:40:47 GMT -5
I fail to see how I am "taking advantage" of anyone or anything. Its bad business. I know that $50 would have done NOTHING to his business. I know this, having done work like this myself. Bad word of mouth will do alot more harm than him losing $50. Messing up multiple orders from the same customer is bad. Not honoring the mistake is worse.
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Sept 16, 2014 20:47:32 GMT -5
His complaint is about them canceling the second order. He "owed" on the second order as well... which was the one that had the 90% accidentally taken off. The store just wanted the remaining 80% paid for. Once he refused, they canceled the order and brought the transaction back to square one. I'm not arguing against the store having the right to cancel the second order (or amend it). I do think his frustration is over the entire situation of both orders though. I'd personally cancel my order for their unprofessionalism, but that's just me. I get that he wanted it for the mistake price, but his take is that, it's unfair to take an order, give a receipt, tracking & then recognize a mistake that the customer owes more money. Where I live (having worked retail), if something is scanned at the register and comes up incorrectly, the store is legally obligated to honor that price (or whatever price, if correctly labelled, it shows on display...even if the sale has expired). A store wouldn't give you a receipt for the item & then say, wait...that's wrong.I have no problem with an online store needing to fix the issue & it's completely fair for them to do so...but it's also fair for him to be frustrated & want them to honor a transaction that already was cleared. If they don't want to honor it, it'll mean losing him as a customer for good probably - so neither really win no matter what. The bolded part is my biggest issue. Had they informed me they messed up AGAIN, before I got my confirmation/tracking, I would have just been annoyed and left it at that. But I dont see how they can do that, legally. Thats why I contacted paypal. Not to complain over being annoyed. But because the transaction was complete already.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 20:52:38 GMT -5
I'm not arguing against the store having the right to cancel the second order (or amend it). I do think his frustration is over the entire situation of both orders though. I'd personally cancel my order for their unprofessionalism, but that's just me. I get that he wanted it for the mistake price, but his take is that, it's unfair to take an order, give a receipt, tracking & then recognize a mistake that the customer owes more money. Where I live (having worked retail), if something is scanned at the register and comes up incorrectly, the store is legally obligated to honor that price (or whatever price, if correctly labelled, it shows on display...even if the sale has expired). A store wouldn't give you a receipt for the item & then say, wait...that's wrong.I have no problem with an online store needing to fix the issue & it's completely fair for them to do so...but it's also fair for him to be frustrated & want them to honor a transaction that already was cleared. If they don't want to honor it, it'll mean losing him as a customer for good probably - so neither really win no matter what. The bolded part is my biggest issue. Had they informed me they messed up AGAIN, before I got my confirmation/tracking, I would have just been annoyed and left it at that. But I dont see how they can do that, legally. Thats why I contacted paypal. Not to complain over being annoyed. But because the transaction was complete already. you'd probably have to discuss that with the BBB or whomever takes care of online sales.... I don't think they did anything illegal (online orders are cancelled all the time for no reason at all), but just a frustration - the eBay issue is easy enough to complain about though, overselling will count against them if it was their fault for the issue and not eBay's
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Sept 16, 2014 21:00:19 GMT -5
indeed
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Post by The Mask of Truth on Sept 16, 2014 21:12:48 GMT -5
Tell them you'll meet em at the Crossroads, Krazie Bone....
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