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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 7, 2015 21:42:43 GMT -5
But a year of well booked feuds Yeah, that's not gonna happen in this company. Touché.
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Post by Duck Holliday on Feb 7, 2015 23:42:25 GMT -5
Meh. Just book things better. That's all, besides the logic is flawed cause you can't claim that everyone that boos Roman and cheers Bryan is part of the IWC (or people wouldn't be mad over Roman having the main title over Bryan, Ambrose Wyatt or Rollins). Everyone that attended and booed at the Rumble was the IWC and would be happy just watching Smackdown?
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Post by marino13 on Feb 8, 2015 0:28:45 GMT -5
Just stopped in to say...
No you don't.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Feb 8, 2015 4:05:00 GMT -5
They need to have two main titles. The roster is way too big to have 50 different fringe nation eventers and one title belt.
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Post by rustyy on Feb 8, 2015 4:10:06 GMT -5
I liked the World Heavyweight Championship, sad they got rid of it. The brand split would be good for business. IMO. Not really, they've buried and ruined any potential stars they had on Raw, throwing them over to Smackdown wouldn't help. You could rebuild, but rating will be bad and they'll just blame the "new stars" and stop putting effort in. Unless SmackDown goes live, there is no point. Piped in chants, empty arenas and no storyline progression, it would be a waste of time, just like it has been since Edge retired and Punk stopped doing the SES.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Cinnamon! on Feb 8, 2015 4:16:20 GMT -5
Lulz, they only just unified the championships a little over a year ago. They're not going to split them again so quickly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 6:01:26 GMT -5
Lulz, they only just unified the championships a little over a year ago. They're not going to split them again so quickly. Eh. It could happen. The Undisputed Championship didn't last very long.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 7:11:07 GMT -5
I know how to fix WWE's problems too: don't make stupid booking decisions that piss off the fanbase. Seems simple enough, no? Impossible to quantify. When "stupid booking decisions that piss off the fanbase" means "not having Daniel Bryan win the title match every night" then it would be very short-sighted of them to follow that rule. If Daniel Bryan never lost, he'd be SuperBryan and Bryanwinslol. Amazing. People wanted Bryan to win the RR because he is incredibly over and had an in built story to go to WM with in that he never actually lost the belt......it wrote itself. People like myself didn't want Reigns to win(even though they like him)because they knew the crowd would turn on him and he would be Batista one year removed. Im a mark for RR and don't only follow him to irritate people but I KNEW this would spell disaster for him. and that to you translates in to we want Bryan to win EVERY night? LOL.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 8, 2015 8:56:27 GMT -5
Impossible to quantify. When "stupid booking decisions that piss off the fanbase" means "not having Daniel Bryan win the title match every night" then it would be very short-sighted of them to follow that rule. If Daniel Bryan never lost, he'd be SuperBryan and Bryanwinslol. Amazing. People wanted Bryan to win the RR because he is incredibly over and had an in built story to go to WM with in that he never actually lost the belt......it wrote itself. People like myself didn't want Reigns to win(even though they like him)because they knew the crowd would turn on him and he would be Batista one year removed. Im a mark for RR and don't only follow him to irritate people but I KNEW this would spell disaster for him. and that to you translates in to we want Bryan to win EVERY night? LOL. That's how a select few people seem to read posts. Myself, @kidxlolz, you and a few others have stated on MULTIPLE occasions that we just felt that Bryan should have won the Rumble over Roman. That is read by them as "Bryan should win the Rumble, win at WrestleMania and hold the title until he retires, running through every heel in the company. He should never lose again. Also, Roman Reigns totally sucks." The fact that they can read what we say and comprehend it as something entirely different makes me question so many things.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 8, 2015 9:43:50 GMT -5
and that to you translates in to we want Bryan to win EVERY night? LOL. Go back and look at the WrestleMania 28 thread. Or the SummerSlam 2013 thread. Or the Raw after Night of Champions 2013 thread. Or the Battleground 2013 thread. Or the Hell in a Cell 2013 thread. Or the Royal Rumble 2014 thread. Or the Elimination Chamber 2014 thread.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 9:57:43 GMT -5
and that to you translates in to we want Bryan to win EVERY night? LOL. Go back and look at the WrestleMania 28 thread. Or the SummerSlam 2013 thread. Or the Raw after Night of Champions 2013 thread. Or the Battleground 2013 thread. Or the Hell in a Cell 2013 thread. Or the Royal Rumble 2014 thread. Or the Elimination Chamber 2014 thread. Cracking answer there NMS......as usual non pertinent deflection is your go to position when your called out. Maybe in your next reply you can have dig at me about my dislike for Stephanie? So when it comes down to brass tacks?you will tar everyone who didn't want Reigns to win(for a variety of credible reasons)as mindless "boo hoo Bryan didn't win" fans?
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 8, 2015 10:09:51 GMT -5
Go back and look at the WrestleMania 28 thread. Or the SummerSlam 2013 thread. Or the Raw after Night of Champions 2013 thread. Or the Battleground 2013 thread. Or the Hell in a Cell 2013 thread. Or the Royal Rumble 2014 thread. Or the Elimination Chamber 2014 thread. Cracking answer there NMS......as usual non pertinent deflection is your go to position when your called out. It would take a startlingly bad level of comprehension to consider that deflection. You specifically asked about "wanting Bryan to win every night" and I pointed out numerous specific other times that Bryan losing amounts to "stupid booking that pisses off the fans" complaints from the same people. Point being that the babyface losing may well piss off his fans on the night, but lead to something bigger later on. Just like in a movie when the lead guy's best friend dies/wife leaves it adds fuel to the fire for the eventual triumpth. If the babyface never loses, he never goes through any adversity. That's one of the complaints about Cena and now Reigns, isn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 10:21:35 GMT -5
Cracking answer there NMS......as usual non pertinent deflection is your go to position when your called out. It would take a startlingly bad level of comprehension to consider that deflection. You specifically asked about "wanting Bryan to win every night" and I pointed out numerous specific other times that Bryan losing amounts to "stupid booking that pisses off the fans" complaints from the same people. Point being that the babyface losing may well piss off his fans on the night, but lead to something bigger later on. Just like in a movie when the lead guy's best friend dies/wife leaves it adds fuel to the fire for the eventual triumpth. If the babyface never loses, he never goes through any adversity. That's one of the complaints about Cena and now Reigns, isn't it? Well I don't possess a "startling bad level of comprehension"and that isn't the way I see it.in fact that wasn't even what we were talking about to begin with.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 8, 2015 10:23:12 GMT -5
Well I don't possess a "startling bad level of comprehension"and that isn't the way I see it.in fact that wasn't even what we were talking about to begin with. Yes, it was -- if your comprehension is up to snuff, go back and read the initial post of mine that you quoted.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 11:10:51 GMT -5
Well I don't possess a "startling bad level of comprehension"and that isn't the way I see it.in fact that wasn't even what we were talking about to begin with. Yes, it was -- if your comprehension is up to snuff, go back and read the initial post of mine that you quoted. It wasn't....It is & I have. You are tarring everyone with the same brush. "If your comprehension is up to snuff" good god like.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 11:13:19 GMT -5
Well I don't possess a "startling bad level of comprehension"and that isn't the way I see it.in fact that wasn't even what we were talking about to begin with. Yes, it was -- if your comprehension is up to snuff, go back and read the initial post of mine that you quoted. Since you'll shorten this and ignore every valid reason I make, I'll just say this, you're 100% wrong.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 8, 2015 11:24:38 GMT -5
Yes, it was -- if your comprehension is up to snuff, go back and read the initial post of mine that you quoted. It wasn't....It is & I have. You clearly haven't. Here's a recap though, if you're unable or unwilling to go back and read: In a thread entitled something like "How to fix WWE's problems" someone posted about "stupid booking that pisses off the fans." I responded to that person that if that equates to Daniel Bryan not winning every night (which the reactions every time Daniel Bryan doesn't win a big match suggest it does), that it's counterproductive for WWE to go along with that suggestion. That is what the topic was. When Vince stripped Austin of the title, that pissed off fans. When Andre beat Hogan with the dodgy ref, that pissed off fans. When Vince turned on Rock to give Triple H the win at WrestleMania 2000, that pissed off fans. Pissing off fans is a vital part of wrestling booking, for reasons already stated.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 11:53:02 GMT -5
It wasn't....It is & I have. You clearly haven't. Here's a recap though, if you're unable or unwilling to go back and read: In a thread entitled something like "How to fix WWE's problems" someone posted about "stupid booking that pisses off the fans." I responded to that person that if that equates to Daniel Bryan not winning every night (which the reactions every time Daniel Bryan doesn't win a big match suggest it does), that it's counterproductive for WWE to go along with that suggestion. That is what the topic was. When Vince stripped Austin of the title, that pissed off fans. When Andre beat Hogan with the dodgy ref, that pissed off fans. When Vince turned on Rock to give Triple H the win at WrestleMania 2000, that pissed off fans. Pissing off fans is a vital part of wrestling booking, for reasons already stated. Unwilling or Unable to read? Do you want to expand on that? All points that I was 100% aware of. but you are saying that all DB fans are saying this and crying over him not winning.... We are NOT. This is how this started.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 13:24:08 GMT -5
Hopefully WM is A Good event that hopefully proves Roman Deserves this push.Just like Daniel Bryan Roman has to overcome his odds not only to prove to himself but to prove to all the people that don't think he is ready for this opportunity.Hopefully His Match at WM does just that and he finally gets respect from the crowd.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 8, 2015 13:29:12 GMT -5
Hopefully WM is A Good event that hopefully proves Roman Deserves this push.Just like Daniel Bryan Roman has to overcome his odds not only to prove to himself but to prove to all the people that don't think he is ready for this opportunity.Hopefully His Match at WM does just that and he finally gets respect from the crowd. It won't get him much respect for a few reasons. 1) There are those fans that are going to hate regardless 2) Even if the WrestleMania match is good (and I hope it is), people will still see him as someone who got pushed over people who are better than him. I do hope the match delivers.
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