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Post by Andrewghbk99 on Feb 20, 2015 23:46:51 GMT -5
First wrestlemania 8.
Why in the hell did Hogan vs Vicious go on last? I'm sure it was the Hogan pull but come on. Flair vs Savage for the title at that time period should have closed out the show.
Onto summerslam 92.
Man savage really got the kick in this title reign bc not only does he not close out mania he doesnt close out summerslam.
Now this is the first time I've ever watch ss92 since I was young so I don't rememeber any of it. I always thought this was the event that savage dropped the title to flair.
Why didn't they have flair complete in this event? This was the second biggest event of for this time period.
Was savages reign this time really poorly executed?
When did he drop it to flair?
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Feb 20, 2015 23:58:18 GMT -5
To answer your question for WrestleMania VIII, you can partly thank JJ Dillion for the match order at said event. Guess Vince McMahon wanted the last visual you saw was Hogan in the ring. Celebrating with the Ultimate Warrior. As far as SummerSlam 1992 is concerned, Randy Savage dropped the WWF Championship here: WWF @ Hershey, PA - Hersheypark Arena - September 1, 1992 (7,000; papered)WWF Superstars taping:WWF World Champion Randy Savage fought Ric Flair to a double disqualification; a rematch was scheduled for later in the evening; according to Bret Hart, the match had to be redone due to Ric Flair ignoring Vince's instructions as to what to do in the match Prime Time Wrestling - 9/14/92: Ric Flair (w/ Mr. Perfect) pinned WWF World Champion Randy Savage with the figure-4 to win the title after Razor Ramon attacked Savage on the floor; Razor returned to the ring after the match to attack Savage; the Ultimate Warrior carried Savage backstage after Razor left (1992 Year in Review)Source: www.thehistoryofwwe.com/92.htmI am sure others would provide you with more information.
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Post by speaktomeworriers on Feb 21, 2015 0:38:09 GMT -5
Wembley stadium, England .....British bulldog
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 8:14:01 GMT -5
Savage wasn't really an option to headline Summerslam 1992. With his marriage disintegrating(his inclusion of Liz in the Flair story without her permission seemed to be the last straw) he wasn't up to the job.
WM8 was different as Vince was going to try going with Warrior as the guy again and wanted the last thing we seen to be Hogan and him hugging.
But by the time Summerslam 1992 arrived? Vince has shifted focus towards the Proto New Gen.....and even though Bret had to carry Smiths idiotic pilled up ass all over the ring? It was right they main evented.
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Post by Andrewghbk99 on Feb 21, 2015 8:22:53 GMT -5
Wait elizabeth didn't want savage to be in that storyline?
Was that storyline suppose to go anywhere?
Bulldog was pulled up?
I've just heard stories as I was to young at this time to know anything or even watch lol
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 8:59:57 GMT -5
Wait elizabeth didn't want savage to be in that storyline? Was that storyline suppose to go anywhere? Bulldog was pulled up? I've just heard stories as I was to young at this time to know anything or even watch lol Flair said that Liz was crazy mad that savage included her in the Flair picture storyline without her knowledge I have heard that elsewhere too but I'm screwed if I can remember where. When he went down to Savage's house in Sarasota to train for WM8 in Randy's own ring he said they weren't talking and the atmosphere was absolutely poisonous. Bulldog turned up to Summerslam 1992 out of his face on drugs.. Bret had to carry him through the match and basically Vince never forgave him for nearly botching this opportunity he was handed. He couldn't wait to get the IC title off him.....then he sacked him when he did.
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Post by koreygunz on Feb 21, 2015 9:39:07 GMT -5
Hogan headlined WM8 because it was supposed to be his "last match" and they had the return of Warrior planned.
Bulldog headlined SummerSlam because, well, it was in England and he was going over. They knew he would get the biggest reaction of the night.
Savage was in a bad place mentally during his title reign, and it effected him in and out of the ring. His marriage/divorce to Liz was at an all time low. Liz was also very upset that Savage volunteered her to be a focal point of the feud with Flair without asking her. Because of all his issues Vince decided to go with the "new generation" and Flair was used as a transitional champion to get the belt on Bret. This experience soured Vince on Savage and led to him being held out of in-ring action until he left for WCW, even though Savage knew he had more in the tank once he resolved all his personal issues (which he was right about)
I too have wondered why Flair didnt compete at SummerSlam, but who would you have booked him against? He and Perfect were a foil in the Savage/Warrior storyline, so there really was no place for him on the card. Ive heard that he was meant to feud with Warrior after Survivor Series, but of course Warrior was fired and Flair decided to leave the company.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 11:28:34 GMT -5
Hogan headlined WM8 because it was supposed to be his "last match" and they had the return of Warrior planned. Bulldog headlined SummerSlam because, well, it was in England and he was going over. They knew he would get the biggest reaction of the night. Savage was in a bad place mentally during his title reign, and it effected him in and out of the ring. His marriage/divorce to Liz was at an all time low. Liz was also very upset that Savage volunteered her to be a focal point of the feud with Flair without asking her. Because of all his issues Vince decided to go with the "new generation" and Flair was used as a transitional champion to get the belt on Bret. This experience soured Vince on Savage and led to him being held out of in-ring action until he left for WCW, even though Savage knew he had more in the tank once he resolved all his personal issues (which he was right about) I too have wondered why Flair didnt compete at SummerSlam, but who would you have booked him against? He and Perfect were a foil in the Savage/Warrior storyline, so there really was no place for him on the card. Ive heard that he was meant to feud with Warrior after Survivor Series, but of course Warrior was fired and Flair decided to leave the company. that's a great point about Flair.....who would he have went up against? I suppose it wouldn't have hurt to have fed him El Matador or something just to boost his profile but yeah.....I do totally see your point.
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Post by Nivro™ on Feb 22, 2015 1:51:18 GMT -5
There was also heavy influence that Sid was promised the Main Event (either Vs. Hogan or in general) at Wrestlemania....The problem with Wrestlemania VIII is that there's so many conflicting reports, rumors, believes and legends that nobody knows what the hell was going on except for Vince McMahon.
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Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on Feb 22, 2015 2:04:23 GMT -5
I too have wondered why Flair didnt compete at SummerSlam, but who would you have booked him against? Undertaker, hell in a cell.
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Post by Kollecting King on Feb 22, 2015 13:32:46 GMT -5
Yea as was said above from what ive heard it was in Sid's contract that he would headline Wrestlemania 8 so when he was going to be relegated to below the main event he got pissy and started claiming breach of contract. So it changed and Sid fought Hogan since Hogan was by that point saying it would be his final match.
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Post by PVA on Feb 22, 2015 14:50:37 GMT -5
I too have wondered why Flair didnt compete at SummerSlam, but who would you have booked him against? Undertaker, hell in a cell. Lol, I'm assuming the hell in a cell is a joke. The undertaker was an awful in ring wrestler until about 1996 where he started improving.
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Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on Feb 22, 2015 15:56:34 GMT -5
Undertaker, hell in a cell. Lol, I'm assuming the hell in a cell is a joke. The undertaker was an awful in ring wrestler until about 1996 where he started improving. When we fantasy book old wrestling, we always do so by today's standards ie everybody at the Roddy Piper, Ted DiBiase, Jake Roberts and Mr Perfect level getting to win the world title. So by today's standards, I'm rebooking SummerSlam 92 to have a cell match with Undertaker vs Flair. I'd book it to have Undertaker's first dive over the top rope too. But I wouldn't have them get on top of the cell or anything. Taker wins clean.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Feb 22, 2015 17:58:12 GMT -5
Undertaker, hell in a cell. Lol, I'm assuming the hell in a cell is a joke. The undertaker was an awful in ring wrestler until about 1996 where he started improving. False...Taker's in ring work was tailored around his character and hindered by his opponents. He was FAR from awful.
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