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Post by johnnyb on Mar 4, 2015 21:00:50 GMT -5
And for what it's worth, I think H has a great mind for wrestling, but outside of the vast minority of the time, he ignores what's best for the industry when it comes to booking himself. Yeah, he's been pretty great over the past few years, but even this program with Sting is totally falling flat for me because of H's long, rambling WCW burials that he's using to create the narrative around Sting's recent appearances.
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Post by Darkhawk on Mar 4, 2015 21:03:37 GMT -5
You can say once Vince is no longer in charge and Triple H finally takes over. WWE will drastically change for the better. Triple H has been doing a great job with NXT so I'm sure he'll do great running WWE. Plus he somewhat does listen to the IWC.
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Post by Charlie f'n Kelly on Mar 4, 2015 21:13:05 GMT -5
lol this guy thinks the attitude era was the only thing that happened in the 90's. It was literally less than a two year stretch, between 1984 and today, where the WWF/WWE was not the #1 wrestling company in the world. I think you greatly exaggerate when you say "Vince doesn't know anything about wrestling outside of the Hulk Hogan era." That is just a ridiculous statement. Oh, so you mean when WWE is the only wrestling company on mainstream television?
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Post by marino13 on Mar 4, 2015 21:17:49 GMT -5
We get it...
Triple H shot JFK!
Triple H sold the Spider Man film rights to Sony!
Triple H is to blame for Sheamus' push!
Triple H is to blame for Sheamus' de-push!
Triple H will never put over Daniel Bryan!
Triple H caused Golden Corral to run out of yeast rolls last week!
Triple H wrote the Transformer movies!
Triple H convinced Anakin to give the Dark Side a chance!
Triple H caused global warming!
He's the devil. He's to blame for everything wrong. Nothing new. The horse has been dead. Personally I like when he takes shots at the IWC, cause more often than not he's 100% right. Tough t*tties.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Mar 4, 2015 21:17:44 GMT -5
Smarks are just unbearably annoying and everything Triple H says about them is hilarious and true.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 21:22:54 GMT -5
What a great read this thread has been thus far...
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Post by Tyler Black on Mar 4, 2015 21:23:24 GMT -5
The fact that you're blaming everything on HHH, shows me that no you're not all that smart. HHH knows far better than any of us he spent his life in the business, all the evidence I need is NXT you guys are really hanging on to that. Obviously he's knows his stuff but so we do we is all I'm trying to say. And I'm not blaming everything on him. You must not be the smart if you can understand that. Nxt is not a factor in why the top face is not facing the top heel at wrestlemania. Wake up!As a matter of fact its quite the contrary HHH, YOU don't know how this business works! The most over guy in the company gets pushed, he does not get put in a match with other mid carders who will now get overshadowed because of Bryan being in this ladder match. Everyone suffers from bad booking not just Bryan and the fans. Now when it comes to WRESTLEMANIA, the most over guy in the company faces the TOP HEEL in the company. There is nothing over complicated about this and I'm not going buy into this non sense that because I'm a fan that means i don't know what I'm talking about. Fans are smarter these days and in the words of wise man, who expressed that he did not want to return a face because fans would reject it the idea. "DEAL WITH IT"[/b] You clearly are blaming HHH here for a Vince McMahon issue. NXT is the factor in Triple H knowledge of the wrestling business, which you claim to have a far vastly better knowledge of.
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Post by marino13 on Mar 4, 2015 21:25:10 GMT -5
This thread did go as you expect, huh?
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Post by johnnyb on Mar 4, 2015 21:43:47 GMT -5
It was literally less than a two year stretch, between 1984 and today, where the WWF/WWE was not the #1 wrestling company in the world. I think you greatly exaggerate when you say "Vince doesn't know anything about wrestling outside of the Hulk Hogan era." That is just a ridiculous statement. Oh, so you mean when WWE is the only wrestling company on mainstream television? I didn't say anything about TV. And the fact that they have no competition has a lot to do with Vince being a brilliant promoter and booker Hulk Hogan, because reasons?
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Post by Robert69 on Mar 4, 2015 21:46:54 GMT -5
This thread did go as you expect, huh?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 21:59:13 GMT -5
As Palmer said, D Bry doesn't have longevity. Did you see the bumps he took with Harper on Monday? He can't do those for 5 more years. That's about his shelf life. I'll give him 5 more years. Now we have Reigns, Rollins, Ambrose, Ziggler, Wyatt, Barrett, and a whole list of young talent, not even counting the guys in NXT that'll be headlining soon enough... How many of those guys on the roster do people see doing Make A Wish visits? Doing the toy sales? Basically doing all the stuff Cena does? Do you really want Bray Wyatt on Toys R Us commercials? And Ambrose/Rollins playing WWE action figures back stage? Can you see Rollins smiling with a make a wish kid now, without not thinking of his d**k pic? Reigns is tailor made to sell to the kiddies, and the women. He has a surprisingly HUGE following. You only need to look at Twitter/Facebook to see this. So let him be marketed for that. Why can't we just be happy someone NEW is being built up? Everyone has their place. Reigns' place is in the WM main event this year. Should he be there? Arguable. Should we be happy he's there? I think yes, because why the hell NOT? At worst it's a bad match, and he needs more work. Lesnar breaks him in half, he's retired, and some people get what they want, anyways. At best? We get a great feud moving forward with Reigns/Rollins, two guys who should be headlining WM/WWE with those others I mentioned, and Balor/Owens/Zayn for a good 10-20 years moving forward. This is a GOOD thing, long term. But nobody wants to trust WWE may possibly know what they're doing. And that's exactly what HHH was pointing out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 22:12:13 GMT -5
I'm starting to like Roman Reigns. I wish he'd come to the ring on a motorcycle though, because he reminds me of Lorenzo Lamas on Renegade.
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Post by Robert69 on Mar 4, 2015 22:16:11 GMT -5
As Palmer said, D Bry doesn't have longevity. Did you see the bumps he took with Harper on Monday? He can't do those for 5 more years. That's about his shelf life. I'll give him 5 more years. Now we have Reigns, Rollins, Ambrose, Ziggler, Wyatt, Barrett, and a whole list of young talent, not even counting the guys in NXT that'll be headlining soon enough... How many of those guys on the roster do people see doing Make A Wish visits? Doing the toy sales? Basically doing all the stuff Cena does? Do you really want Bray Wyatt on Toys R Us commercials? And Ambrose/Rollins playing WWE action figures back stage? Can you see Rollins smiling with a make a wish kid now, without not thinking of his d**k pic? Reigns is tailor made to sell to the kiddies, and the women. He has a surprisingly HUGE following. You only need to look at Twitter/Facebook to see this. So let him be marketed for that. Why can't we just be happy someone NEW is being built up? Everyone has their place. Reigns' place is in the WM main event this year. Should he be there? Arguable. Should we be happy he's there? I think yes, because why the hell NOT? At worst it's a bad match, and he needs more work. Lesnar breaks him in half, he's retired, and some people get what they want, anyways. At best? We get a great feud moving forward with Reigns/Rollins, two guys who should be headlining WM/WWE with those others I mentioned, and Balor/Owens/Zayn for a good 10-20 years moving forward. This is a GOOD thing, long term. But nobody wants to trust WWE may possibly know what they're doing. And that's exactly what HHH was pointing out. "No, no, no, no. You don't want her, she's a witchy witch!"
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Post by Hulk Who? on Mar 4, 2015 22:22:22 GMT -5
I'm starting to like Roman Reigns. I wish he'd come to the ring on a motorcycle though, because he reminds me of Lorenzo Lamas on Renegade. Little known fact, Undertaker originally wanted his ABA character to come down to the ring on a skateboard, thought the men would want to be him, the women would want to be with him, it would be a home run with the kids, and a natural fit for merch sales. Vince insisted a motorcycle was more bad ass, Taker thought he was out of touch with the youth. Vince realized Taker had been very busy since 1990 and deserved a vacation. Taker came back and acquiesced after taking in the new world, he never doubted Vince again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 22:27:17 GMT -5
Dat darn Triple Haitch is da devil ! He don't know nothin about da wrasslin business even tho he's da actual COO of da biggest wrasslin business in the wurld. Da IWC R DA ONLY ONEZ WHO NO BOUT DA WRASSLIN BUSINNEZ ND HOW IT WURKS!
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Mar 4, 2015 22:29:02 GMT -5
I'm starting to like Roman Reigns. I wish he'd come to the ring on a motorcycle though, because he reminds me of Lorenzo Lamas on Renegade. Little known fact, Undertaker originally wanted his ABA character to come down to the ring on a skateboard, thought the men would want to be him, the women would want to be with him, it would be a home run with the kids, and a natural fit for merch sales. Vince insisted a motorcycle was more bad ass, Taker thought he was out of touch with the youth. Vince realized Taker had been very busy since 1990 and deserved a vacation. Taker came back and acquiesced after taking in the new world, he never doubted Vince again.
Wonder how that would've worked. The cycle is way more badass. 6ft10 dudes usually are a bit awkward on a board
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Post by Hulk Who? on Mar 4, 2015 22:32:58 GMT -5
Little known fact, Undertaker originally wanted his ABA character to come down to the ring on a skateboard, thought the men would want to be him, the women would want to be with him, it would be a home run with the kids, and a natural fit for merch sales. Vince insisted a motorcycle was more bad ass, Taker thought he was out of touch with the youth. Vince realized Taker had been very busy since 1990 and deserved a vacation. Taker came back and acquiesced after taking in the new world, he never doubted Vince again.
Wonder how that would've worked. The cycle is way more badass. 6ft10 dudes usually are a bit awkward on a board All a part of Taker's plan, he's no normal 6 10 dude, nimble as , he had started practicing tricks, even renamed most of his moves to ollie this and ollie that, Olliestone, Last Ollie, Ollie School etc. -OllieFan4Ever
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Post by Yambag Jones on Mar 4, 2015 22:34:04 GMT -5
Him putting the IWC in their place is great. This thread is a perfect example with that. If you have problems with WWE (non-NXT related) blame Vince. It's clear you don't know the business...YOU'RE PROVING HIS POINT!
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Post by theMOESIAH on Mar 4, 2015 22:45:32 GMT -5
I have a theory that the IWC is right now than they are wrong and everyone in the business just keeps telling us we're wrong. I doubt it's true, but wouldn't it be great if it was?
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Post by johnnyb on Mar 4, 2015 22:58:36 GMT -5
Him putting the IWC in their place is great.This thread is a perfect example with that. If you have problems with WWE (non-NXT related) blame Vince. It's clear you don't know the business...YOU'RE PROVING HIS POINT! Spoken like someone who posts on a wrestling message board and doesn't appear to think he's part of the so-called "IWC". Come on guys... the IWC doesn't exist. Virtually every wrestling fan in a developed country regularly uses the internet.
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