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Post by RKOrton #ThankYouLesnar on Mar 4, 2015 18:47:52 GMT -5
Im so tired and fed up,
Im fed up with HHH shooting on the IWC every other Raw on how "They think they know how this business works but they don't know a damn thing". And I touched on this in the Issue with Daniel Bryan ladder match Topic posted by MattlesRule. But i wanted to create a new topic on it to get yours thoughts on this. I'm tired HHH and the WWE insulting our intelligence and I'm SICK of the IWC getting heat from marks for not being ''happy'' with the booking. NEWSFLASH Hunter, WE DO GET THE BUSINESS! Its Pro wrestling and when it comes down to good booking and good business decisions this isn't Rocket Science my friend. As a matter of fact its quite the contrary HHH, YOU don't know how this business works! The most over guy in the company gets pushed, he does not get put in a match with other mid carders who will now get overshadowed because of Bryan being in this ladder match. Everyone suffers from bad booking not just Bryan and the fans. Now when it comes to WRESTLEMANIA, the most over guy in the company faces the TOP HEEL in the company. There is nothing over complicated about this and I'm not going buy into this non sense that because I'm a fan that means i don't know what I'm talking about. Fans are smarter these days and in the words of wise man, who expressed that he did not want to return a face because fans would reject it the idea.
"DEAL WITH IT"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 18:52:28 GMT -5
See I want to agree with some of this, but saying Hunter doesn't know how the business works when we have NXT seems completely wrong. So agree to disagree.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 18:54:53 GMT -5
HHH knows the business better than any of us. That's not even worth debating.
NXT is the best show WWE puts out. Guess who books it and brought in the talent from the indies that everyone loves? That would be HHH.
Bottom line, most of us don't know what we're talking about from the business side of things. We don't see all the numbers they do. He's not wrong in what he says, but he's not 100% right either. Everyone likes to play armchair booker, but it's probably a bit more difficult than turning on EWR.
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Post by RKOrton #ThankYouLesnar on Mar 4, 2015 18:55:51 GMT -5
See I want to agree with some of this, but saying Hunter doesn't know how the business works when we have NXT seems completely wrong. So agree to disagree. Dude, Obviously HHH knows the concept of pushing the top guy but the fact WWE refuses to do it is insane to me. Yes Hunter is doing a great job with NXT but NXT is not the WWE main roster and that is where the issue is. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 18:59:17 GMT -5
See I want to agree with some of this, but saying Hunter doesn't know how the business works when we have NXT seems completely wrong. So agree to disagree. Dude, Obvously HHH knows the concept of pushing the top guy but the fact WWE refuses to do it is insane to me. Yes Hunter is doing a great job with NXT but NXT is not the WWE main roster and that is where the issue is. He's also not in control of the main roster, so your entire post is moot. |
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Post by RKOrton #ThankYouLesnar on Mar 4, 2015 19:00:53 GMT -5
Dude, Obvously HHH knows the concept of pushing the top guy but the fact WWE refuses to do it is insane to me. Yes Hunter is doing a great job with NXT but NXT is not the WWE main roster and that is where the issue is. He's also not in control of the main roster, so your entire post is moot. Maybe i should change it to WWE and not HHH lol. If you really believe HHH doesn't have SOME control over creative and the main the roster, then your in denial or just haven't been paying attention for the past decade. lmao jesus christ the mans body count is taller than he is. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 19:03:24 GMT -5
He's also not in control of the main roster, so your entire post is moot. Maybe i should change it to WWE and not HHH lol. If you really believe HHH doesn't have SOME control over creative then your in denial or just haven't not been paying attention for the past decade. It doesn't matter if he has some say. He doesn't have complete control, and if a fraction of what people say about Vince is true, it's incredibly hard to change his mind. HHH takes shots at the internet because he's a heel and it gets him some heat (and oddly some pops), but he obviously has a handle on how to book things. NXT is perfect example of that. If he had free reign on Raw and/or Smackdown, you might be seeing a different product. |
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Post by RKOrton #ThankYouLesnar on Mar 4, 2015 19:04:32 GMT -5
Maybe i should change it to WWE and not HHH lol. If you really believe HHH doesn't have SOME control over creative then your in denial or just haven't not been paying attention for the past decade. It doesn't matter if he has some say. He doesn't have complete control, and if a fraction of what people say about Vince is true, it's incredibly hard to change his mind. HHH takes shots at the internet because he's a heel and it gets him some heat (and oddly some pops), but he obviously has a handle on how to book things. NXT is perfect example of that. If he had free reign on Raw and/or Smackdown, you might be seeing a different product. Thats fair. |
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Post by Robert69 on Mar 4, 2015 19:11:21 GMT -5
So -- basically HHH doesn't know what he's talking about, and WWE doesn't know what they're doing, because Daniel Bryan isn't Main Eventing WM, to win the WWEWHC?
Is that what this is, here?
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Post by wyleecyotee on Mar 4, 2015 19:12:50 GMT -5
Apparently fans are not smarter these days.
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Post by Tyler Black on Mar 4, 2015 19:22:07 GMT -5
The fact that you're blaming everything on HHH, shows me that no you're not all that smart. HHH knows far better than any of us he spent his life in the business, all the evidence I need is NXT
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Post by RKOrton #ThankYouLesnar on Mar 4, 2015 19:29:58 GMT -5
The fact that you're blaming everything on HHH, shows me that no you're not all that smart. HHH knows far better than any of us he spent his life in the business, all the evidence I need is NXT you guys are really hanging on to that. Obviously he's knows his stuff but so we do we is all I'm trying to say. And I'm not blaming everything on him. You must not be the smart if you can understand that. Nxt is not a factor in why the top face is not facing the top heel at wrestlemania. Wake up! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 19:31:01 GMT -5
The fact that you're blaming everything on HHH, shows me that no you're not all that smart. HHH knows far better than any of us he spent his life in the business, all the evidence I need is NXT you guys are really hanging on to that. Obviously he's knows his stuff but so we do we is all I'm trying to say. And I'm not blaming everything on him. You must not be the smart if you can understand that. Nxt is not a factor in why the top face is facing the top heel at wrestlemania. Wake up You're blaming Triple H for not having Bryan in the main event of Wrestlemania. It's not Triple H's call. So...Wake up. |
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Post by RKOrton #ThankYouLesnar on Mar 4, 2015 19:35:38 GMT -5
you guys are really hanging on to that. Obviously he's knows his stuff but so we do we is all I'm trying to say. And I'm not blaming everything on him. You must not be the smart if you can understand that. Nxt is not a factor in why the top face is facing the top heel at wrestlemania. Wake up You're blaming Triple H for not having Bryan in the main event of Wrestlemania. It's not Triple H's call. So...Wake up. dude! I'm saying he is wrong if he thinks we don't understand how it works. That's literally what I said in my post! I didnt say it's his fault Bryan is not main eventing . |
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Post by Chip on Mar 4, 2015 19:40:41 GMT -5
H's is just having fun out there because he knows how butthurt the IWC gets over everything.
and to be quite honest, for about the last 15 years the IWC has done NOTHING but smear HHH as the worst thing to ever happen to the business, and he only slept his way to the top, he was never good enough, he was never the man, he blocked everyone ever from getting a push, he hated this guy, he said he didn't like another guy and that guy got de-pushed, he only watched out for his friends, he doesn't know crap
then he goes and takes over this thing called NXT in a time where the main product is REALLY down, and he is absolutely KILLING IT with NXT so now all of a sudden he's great and smart and should take over the business!
it never ceases to amaze me.
people hated HHH more than anyone on the planet because he buried Chris Jericho in 2001, and booker t, and all these other guys.
i think Jericho turned out OK, dont you?
Booker? yeah he's doing fine
i never understood the HHH hate. but now its even more laughable that most of the people who spent their lives crapting on him are now all over his jock because of NXT
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Mar 4, 2015 19:41:27 GMT -5
Are you his friend Mark?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 19:43:21 GMT -5
You're blaming Triple H for not having Bryan in the main event of Wrestlemania. It's not Triple H's call. So...Wake up. dude! I'm saying he is wrong if he thinks we don't understand how it works. That's literally what I said in my post! I did let say it's his fault Bryan is not main eventing . Right, and...you're wrong. Let the IWC book Wrestlemania, and you'll have one of the worst and poorly booked shows of all time. Triple H is not wrong in saying that the internet doesn't know crap about the business. 98% of the IWC knows absolutely nothing. For example, you're pissed that Bryan isn't in the main event. That's fair, but are you against them trying to propel a new star for the future? Bryan is not the future, he's a short term guy. That neck injury was bad and it won't hold up forever. Reigns, as much as I don't think he should main event this year, is a guy that can be on top for years to come and is still improving. What's best for business is to invest in the guy you know is going to be around awhile. Bryan could take a bad bump tomorrow and re-injure that neck. Granted, it makes putting him in the ladder match (if they do) even more questionable, but so be it. Reigns is a guy that can be a top guy for nearly a decade going forward, maybe more. Bryan has maybe 2-4 years left before I assume that neck injury flares up and forces him to retire. Not to mention, Bryan wasn't even expected back until late February. He was probably slotted to be in a quick feud and light up the show at Wrestlemania, had they waited on his return, you would not be saying any of this. By the time he came back, the plans were set. They assumed he was going to be out longer (rightfully so I'd say), so the plans went ahead without him. It's not rocket science. |
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Post by Charlie f'n Kelly on Mar 4, 2015 19:43:47 GMT -5
See I want to agree with some of this, but saying Hunter doesn't know how the business works when we have NXT seems completely wrong. So agree to disagree. Dude, Obviously HHH knows the concept of pushing the top guy but the fact WWE refuses to do it is insane to me. Yes Hunter is doing a great job with NXT but NXT is not the WWE main roster and that is where the issue is. Triple H doesn't run the main roster, it's only his character on TV... Yeah, he has a say, but so does everyone, Vince is the one running it. Why do you think WWE started to fail in the 90's? Because Vince doesn't know anything about wrestling outside of the Hulk Hogan era. |
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Post by Robert69 on Mar 4, 2015 19:45:00 GMT -5
All this, because Bryan isn't main eventing WM. Called it!
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Post by Charlie f'n Kelly on Mar 4, 2015 19:45:52 GMT -5
Funny, everyone will cry about how the IC title and US title should mean more, and then they start making them mean something and you guys cry because the person going for it isn't who you want. Newsflash! If Daniel Bryan competes for the IC title, it makes the IC title look like something that someone like Daniel Bryan would want. It makes the title valuable.
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