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Post by MattelsRule on Mar 5, 2015 20:17:02 GMT -5
Why? ?? I swear sometimes I want to just meet Vince McMahon and be like "what is wrong with you? "
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Post by Revy on Mar 5, 2015 20:58:41 GMT -5
Been watching the new 1996 Raws they have been putting up and he just debuted. He even looks like he hates it during his entrance. Vince also believed Marc Mero was going to be a top guy and a huge gain from WCW.
On another note, I'm not sure why they skipped episode 178 when uploading the new ones. Hope they get it up soon. Does anyone know their method of putting new ones up? It's been totally random for me.
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Post by MattelsRule on Mar 5, 2015 21:09:41 GMT -5
The other day they added like 4 episodes that weren't in order and luckily filled in the gaps. I didn't wanna jump from 170 to 173.
I actually was huge on Mero as a kid and thought he was going to be a lot bigger than he ended up being. I was 13 at the time though.
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Post by Revy on Mar 5, 2015 21:18:21 GMT -5
mero wasn't bad at all honestly. He did have occasional stinker matches with the jobbers like hopper and the goon. I just wasn't big on his character. They could have probably done something more with him when he came back from injury as a heel. Didn't mean to hijack your thread.
How long was it until Windham dropped the Stalker gimmick and start teaming with Bradshaw?
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Post by koreygunz on Mar 5, 2015 23:14:38 GMT -5
I heard the original idea was for the Stalker to be a heel and feud with Mero, stalking Sable.
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Post by MattelsRule on Mar 5, 2015 23:41:41 GMT -5
I read a shoot interview a little bit ago where he went home because Vince was mad he was working without his camo paint and letting his real character come out and brought him back as a blackjack as Vince's way of getting back at him for walking out in 85.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 2:31:46 GMT -5
Only Stalker match I've ever seen was at Survivor Series 1996.
I've never seen a Stalker promo or any other Stalker matches.
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Post by Himmy! on Mar 6, 2015 4:51:25 GMT -5
Poor Barry. What a talent.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 10:12:58 GMT -5
which was worse? The Stalker or The Widowmaker? Its sad to think Windham's career high in WWF was the US Express....
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Mar 6, 2015 15:21:47 GMT -5
All that needs to be said is this.....
BARRY!!!
That is all.
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Post by MattelsRule on Mar 6, 2015 15:41:29 GMT -5
which was worse? The Stalker or The Widowmaker? Its sad to think Windham's career high in WWF was the US Express.... Well there's a reason for that. He walked out on Vince. Vince has a long memory.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 15:43:37 GMT -5
which was worse? The Stalker or The Widowmaker? Its sad to think Windham's career high in WWF was the US Express.... Well there's a reason for that. He walked out on Vince. Vince has a long memory. yeah I knew that man and begs the question....why the f*ck did Windham keep going back?
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Mar 6, 2015 15:46:11 GMT -5
Well there's a reason for that. He walked out on Vince. Vince has a long memory. yeah I knew that man and begs the question....why the f*ck did Windham keep going back? The Widowmaker was supposed to be a big time heel though. Hogan wanted to work a program with him then, and Barry even stated that Hogan reminded him in WCW in 1999 that Hulk Hogan vs. The Widowmaker would have brought in some big money for both of them. Barry should have never went back to the WWE in 1996. But he also knew his time in WCW was up with all the former WWE talent there. But each time he was in WCW he always had success. Usually Tag Gold, but still, better than being a Stalker.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Mar 6, 2015 15:46:26 GMT -5
Well there's a reason for that. He walked out on Vince. Vince has a long memory. yeah I knew that man and begs the question....why the f*ck did Windham keep going back? I would really like to know this as well...WCW wasn't treating him too bad at all although i think he was long overdue for a legit world title reign.
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Post by MattelsRule on Mar 7, 2015 13:56:07 GMT -5
Well there's a reason for that. He walked out on Vince. Vince has a long memory. yeah I knew that man and begs the question....why the f*ck did Windham keep going back? $$$$
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2015 13:58:29 GMT -5
yeah I knew that man and begs the question....why the f*ck did Windham keep going back? $$$$ Well yeah that's the end result of many a silly move in wrestling.....but you would think that Windham knew the score with Vince....but then again? God only knows what he was told by Vince.
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Post by Nivro™ on Mar 7, 2015 19:08:39 GMT -5
The Windowmaker really wasnt that bad of an idea...I mean its just a nickname he still had a badass look...The Stalker though was just awful...Vince really screwed Barry with that one.
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Post by LtD73 on Mar 7, 2015 19:12:17 GMT -5
Never heard of any of this, anyone got a video?
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Post by jeffro2000 on Mar 12, 2015 9:27:47 GMT -5
May have uploaded it already, maybe not, but I know Austin on commentary points out that everyone knows that is Barry Windham in there, don't know what they are trying to prove. The Stalker gimmick was terrible. Barry was such a talent, maybe not as much at this point, but he was best suited for NWA/WCW
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Post by marino13 on Mar 12, 2015 10:14:31 GMT -5
Man this just reminded me of so many bad memories. I loved Barry Windham. I was okay with the Widow Maker. I despised the Stalker. I was content with Blackjack. Barry Windham could & should have been a top star. Breaks my heart that he wasn't.
I always assumed the Stalker was going after Goldust & Marlena. With Goldust being a "Hollywood star" it would make sense for him to have a stalker. And Barry & Dustin always had great chemistry.
I used to think Vince got off on taking top talent from other companies, make them dance like a monkey, and then force them to go crawling back to their former employer looking like an ass stain. Now I just realized Vince has so many bad ideas, but we ignore it cause of the few good ones in between. Unfortunately a lot of great talent suffered a horrible fate.
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