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Post by The neferious brotha Hargrove on Mar 10, 2015 22:11:54 GMT -5
Last night i said it was a awful raw in the heat of the moment its not the kind of raw that should be happening during the road to wrestlemaina
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Post by Mr Wrestling Jr. on Mar 10, 2015 22:41:57 GMT -5
I gave up after Wyatt's urn promo. The crowd was so uninterested and the announcers were  ing awful. I'm only really enjoying Main Event and SmackDown right now. RAW is such a drag, it should go back to 2 hours so they have to focus on whats important. |
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Post by Falconsinclair on Mar 11, 2015 0:26:05 GMT -5
Everyone keeps saying that Raw should go back to two hours. While I agree with that statement I think it is beyond the WWE's control. If USA wants 3+ hrs of Raw and they are paying for 3+hrs of Raw then 3+ hrs of Raw is what we are going to get. Obviously USA appears to be happy with the product and commercial revenue they are getting with the current Raw set up. What the WWE has to do is give RAW that must see feel it had during the Attitude & Invasion Era's. That is something that has been missing from the overall WWE product for a long long time. Also what is the point of adding camera's to the corners if they aren't going to use those shots? I know it is a minor gripe, but those Camera's look like there were mounted there by a three year old. As for this past Raw I enjoyed it for the most part. The quick changes during the two tag matches and the Diva match worked for me. It made sense to have those quick transitions with people already at ring side. Heyman as always was phenomenal. I love how Bray sold the power of the Urn and Taker's acceptance. Sting's pre-taped audio shouldn't have been edited to sound like it did, but overall the package worked for me. The IC stuff is getting worn thin, and I can't wait for the Ladder match to end so we can stop seeing everyone trying to steal the belt. Seriously is that best creative can come up with to build excitement for that match?  Why keep airing the Sheamus promo's if he isn't appearing anytime soon? At least add a countdown clock or add in X number of weeks. I love the angle with Curtis Axel, but they should stop having him job out immediately. Also they should work spots into his matches where his opponent tries to throw him out of the ring, but he keeps hanging on or avoiding it (this would play up the fact that the Rumble IS a Battle Royal after all), even the commentators could play it up. Also if Axel isn't going to win the Andre Battle Royal they should have someone take his spot away by beating him down before he hits the ring. Axel can then add that to his gimmick as well. |
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Post by A-Rob on Mar 11, 2015 1:57:10 GMT -5
This week's Raw was bad but i've seen worse.
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Post by Duck Holliday on Mar 11, 2015 6:00:24 GMT -5
I feel like I have seen way worse.
Honestly, Randy beating the crap out of Rollins for 15 mins was awesome to me.
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Post by June on Mar 11, 2015 6:36:13 GMT -5
I always ask myself 2 questions while watching RAW:
1. Is this the worst the product has ever been?
2. Why am I watching this?
- RAW is too long
- the announcers are awful and ignore 99% of what's going on in the ring.
- the talent is over exposed
- there is too much of an emphasis on comedy segments that come off as cringeworthy.
- they continually continually destroy hot programs, and prematurely kill pushes whenever someone picks up momentum
With that said there are some good things buried in the crap:
Rusev is fun to watch.
Brock Lesnar legitimizes the sea of crap around him whenever he's on the show.
Paul Heyman is a master with the mic in his hand.
Bray is a player.
Cena is a once in a lifetime talent that should be appreciated more.
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Post by The Future on Mar 11, 2015 7:35:51 GMT -5
Seriously. Did noone watch in 2009? Much more repetitive RAWs then. At least now Cena isn't the main/only attraction. There's more potential main eventers in the midst than any time since 2001/02. The only guys at the top (who aren't part-timers) who are old are Cena and Orton. Granted, Show and Kane slow things down ring-wise too often. They're not making the most of Ryback, Zig, Bryan or Ambrose. The tag division is iffy at best (I mean, seriously, how the hell do you debut the Ascension and reunite PTP and instead choose to put New Day and Los Matadores in the tag title feud instead when both teams have never had any direction?). But honestly, this is a great time for gestation and development, it's not all Orton/Batista/HHH/Cena/Mysterio at the top of the food chain and scraps below like Lashley or Mr. Kennedy. We have an actual future in place. Rollins is entertaining. All the midcard is exciting. More than any time, I'm reminded of WWF 1999- right before the explosion of the Radicalz (maybe the NXT 4?) and lots of upper-mid guys moving up (Kurt, Y2J, HHH) being elevated to the top (Dean, Dolph, Bray, Wade, Rusev, Seth, *sigh* Reigns).
If you think this is the WORST we've ever had, you really weren't watching during the days of constant rotating RAW hosts, K-fed, Eugene and the Spirit Squad as main storylines.
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Post by PudgieTheSheep on Mar 11, 2015 8:17:05 GMT -5
If you think this is the WORST we've ever had, you really weren't watching during the days of constant rotating RAW hosts, K-fed, Eugene and the Spirit Squad as main storylines. I suppose if you judge Raw as a whole then that's a good point, but the actual wrestling aspect of it is much worse in my eyes. There's a severely limited range of moves that are executed and the commentators don't put any attention onto what little wrestling there is happening in the ring. |
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Post by The Future on Mar 11, 2015 8:28:48 GMT -5
If you think this is the WORST we've ever had, you really weren't watching during the days of constant rotating RAW hosts, K-fed, Eugene and the Spirit Squad as main storylines. I suppose if you judge Raw as a whole then that's a good point, but the actual wrestling aspect of it is much worse in my eyes. There's a severely limited range of moves that are executed and the commentators don't put any attention onto what little wrestling there is happening in the ring. Commentary is at a low, I'll give you that. But that's because of this 'social media era' where all they care about is getting stuff trending. And having JBL and Booker nowhere near focused, and Michael Cole being Vince's mouthpiece. In-ring, we still have superb workers like DB, Dolph, Dean, Kidd, Cesaro, Rollins, etc. It was way worse off when all we really had was Chris Masters, Lance Cade, Trevor Murdoch and Carlito on the come-up. |
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Post by PudgieTheSheep on Mar 11, 2015 8:45:52 GMT -5
I suppose if you judge Raw as a whole then that's a good point, but the actual wrestling aspect of it is much worse in my eyes. There's a severely limited range of moves that are executed and the commentators don't put any attention onto what little wrestling there is happening in the ring. Commentary is at a low, I'll give you that. But that's because of this 'social media era' where all they care about is getting stuff trending. And having JBL and Booker nowhere near focused, and Michael Cole being Vince's mouthpiece. In-ring, we still have superb workers like DB, Dolph, Dean, Kidd, Cesaro, Rollins, etc. It was way worse off when all we really had was Chris Masters, Lance Cade, Trevor Murdoch and Carlito on the come-up. Shelton Benjamin, Punk, JoMo, MVP and Bobby Lashley could all be thrown in there. Punk obviously went on to big things and JoMo, MVP and Shelton are all still considered could-have-beens. I'll agree that The Shield and Cesaro could well end up stars but they've still not reached that height yet. Obviously Bryan and Punk kind of cancel each other out, but there was certainly potential back in 06/07 |
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Post by The Champ is Here! on Mar 11, 2015 11:00:37 GMT -5
Its pretty bad...i watch on hulu, and even an hour and a half was rough...its enough to consider cancelling the network
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Post by Browser Brody on Mar 11, 2015 13:25:02 GMT -5
It has been almost a year since I have made it all the way through an episode of Raw. 3 hours of this crap is too much to handle.
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Post by Flair Forever on Mar 11, 2015 18:48:13 GMT -5
It was pretty terrible....
They're trying to build these WrestleMania matches without he "stars" even being in the building.
First, they use a fake voice & claim its Sting.....
Second, they used an old taped Undertaker promo & tried to convince us it was him....
Third, they used a mannequin & tried to tell us it was Brock Lesnar.....
Oh, wait - that was really Lesnar? Could have fooled me, I thought he came to fight. He just stood there staring.
This year's "Road To WrestleMania" will be remembered for a long time..... as a joke.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 21:29:00 GMT -5
When this Raw eventually appears on the Network, I'll reserve judgment then.
Or I'll probably forget by then...
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Post by Dan on Mar 13, 2015 5:31:03 GMT -5
Yeah, the main thing that got to me was that Lesnar once again didn't speak, and didn't even interact with Roman Reigns. I understand Heyman is Lesnar's mouthpiece, but with everything that has gone on as of late surrounding Lesnar, it would have been perfect for Lesnar to retaliate out of anger either on the Mic, or by doing something physically to Reigns. As each week goes by, we are getting less and less progression. There isn't even anything that Triple H can do as realistically, everything that needs to be said has already been said, and Sting doesn't even speak. The Wyatt stuff is even starting to get strenuous, and the way they had the 'Rest in Piece' voice over was so cringey, it ruined the mystique of the Undertaker's reply immediately. The past three weeks have been dedicated to Orton vs Rollins, which in all honesty is the least important of the 5 Big Matches at Wrestlemania.
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Post by Rob on Mar 13, 2015 6:10:41 GMT -5
Yeah, the main thing that got to me was that Lesnar once again didn't speak, and didn't even interact with Roman Reigns. I understand Heyman is Lesnar's mouthpiece, but with everything that has gone on as of late surrounding Lesnar, it would have been perfect for Lesnar to retaliate out of anger either on the Mic, or by doing something physically to Reigns. As each week goes by, we are getting less and less progression. There isn't even anything that Triple H can do as realistically, everything that needs to be said has already been said, and Sting doesn't even speak. The Wyatt stuff is even starting to get strenuous, and the way they had the 'Rest in Piece' voice over was so cringey, it ruined the mystique of the Undertaker's reply immediately. The past three weeks have been dedicated to Orton vs Rollins, which in all honesty is the least important of the 5 Big Matches at Wrestlemania. My problem is everything is getting repetitive. Every god damn week, Bray Wyatt cuts the same promo, Every god damn week, HHH cuts the same promo, Every god damn week, Paul Heyman and Reigns cut the same promo. Its one big ing snoozefest. |
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