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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 7:38:16 GMT -5
IGN has a new interview with Chris Jericho, who was promoting the release of The Road Is Jericho: Epic Stories & Rare Matches from Y2J. During the interview, Jericho was asked if Roman Reigns was ready to headline WrestleMania (play button) next week.
"Look, like I've said before, if you're going to give someone a shot, give them a shot," Jericho replied. "There've been tons of guys who when they've been put in the main event at WrestleMania might not have been quote unquote ready. Who's to say who's ready and who's not? Let's see how the crowd reacts when they get there. But all I know is that Roman Reigns was everybody's favorite guy until the Royal Rumble. And then everyone turned on Roman Reigns. It's so funny how two days before, and the year before, everybody loved Roman Reigns. Everybody. All the fans did. And don't tell me that you didn't because they were all saying 'Roman Reigns, Roman Reigns, Roman Reigns ...what? Daniel Bryan didn't win the Royal Rumble? We hate Roman Reigns! Boo!' And meanwhile, ever since then - I mean, we did house shows in Calgary and Edmonton and it was like Beatlemania. They were going nuts for him. And that was a week after the Royal Rumble.
"So I think that he is ready, as much as anyone can be ready in this day and age. So let's see how it goes. I mean the match he had with Daniel Bryan at Fastlane was incredible. And you can't tell me that it was all because of Daniel Bryan. Really? Because I always heard in the business that it takes two. And I think I've proven myself to be a fairly decent worker, so if I'm telling you it takes two, I think every fan should shut the hell up and listen to what I'm saying. He did a great job of living up to his end of the bargain and he'll do the same thing at WrestleMania. They will leave no stone unturned to make that a great match. They will get all the benefits. All the bells and whistles. And as long as they can hold it together, I think it's going to be great."
Punk is right, Jericho is a guy with an agenda. what a corporate kiss ass.
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Post by Robert69 on Mar 20, 2015 7:54:03 GMT -5
I've always been a Jericho fan. This bolsters it.
Chris Jericho has nothing to gain from being a 'corporate kiss ass'. He's done everything, been everything, and did a lot of it first. One of the best of all time. Something CM Punk will never be able to say, regardless of how good he is. Err, was.
What he said here is basic common sense, nothing pandering. Doesn't the dude run a Podcast and what not? I doubt he's going to potentially cost himself listeners to take a stance he doesn't believe in. Reigns was booed at the start of SD last night, and they erupted when he hit Kane with the spear/pin. The dude has fans. He's improving week after week. He's doing his part. All Jericho is saying, is that, and that he finds it interesting how the reaction changed from the RR.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 7:54:32 GMT -5
"But all I know is that Roman Reigns was everybody's favorite guy until the Royal Rumble."
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Post by Jaz on Mar 20, 2015 7:54:37 GMT -5
Reigns was everyone's favorite guy before the Rumble?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 7:58:49 GMT -5
This just enforces my dislike for Jericho.
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Post by punksnotdead on Mar 20, 2015 8:05:04 GMT -5
Jericho sounds like a total assh*le here. "Everybody" didn't like him before. He got midcard face pops because he was guilty by association. Meaning the smarks loved Ambrose and Rollins and then the women and children were behind Reigns. It was never really an issue in that situation because they were a unit, and being cheered as such. The second Reigns went solo, a big majority of those fans stopped giving a about him, made even worse by the fact it was overbearingly obvious they were pushing him to the moon, and he just wasn't very good. So no, Chris, everybody did not love Roman Reigns before the Rumble and nobody owes him any fandom come WrestleMania. Just so much sweeping generalization and so many fallacies all in one comment.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 8:07:52 GMT -5
Jericho has gotten really weird over the years...and no, Ambrose was my guy going into the Royal Rumble.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 8:16:34 GMT -5
'Everybody'.
Riiight....
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Post by 0,Y on Mar 20, 2015 8:17:20 GMT -5
In some parts he's got a point but in others he doesn't.
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Post by T R W on Mar 20, 2015 8:20:32 GMT -5
I think Jericho is basing his opinion of Reign's popularity in what he has seen at house shows. From what I have seen and heard, Reigns has been super over at most house shows. But obviously not nearly as much on TV.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 8:34:28 GMT -5
Why is it that anyone who defends Regins has to bring up Bryan. Ziggler Ambrose and Sandow all got a positive reaction and they came out after Bryan was long gone.
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Post by marino13 on Mar 20, 2015 8:34:59 GMT -5
A guy (with knowledge of the business) gives his opinion, and that makes him a corporate kiss ass?
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Mar 20, 2015 9:00:19 GMT -5
One thing is for sure... Roman Reigns was not getting booed before the Royal Rumble, so that says something. No matter what you say the "turn" on Roman Reigns was weird and didn't make sense. Hell the guy was never booed before the Rumble and booed heavily on his entrance... When he hasn't even won the match yet. No one and I mean no one( "not named WWE") knew for a fact that he was going to win. Something else could have happened and someone else could have won but the guy would still get booed on that day. And Why? Why? There is no logical explanation. Why is it that anyone who defends Regins has to bring up Bryan. Ziggler Ambrose and Sandow all got a positive reaction and they came out after Bryan was long gone. Yes they did.... But so did Roman Reigns the year before. If Roman Reigns last year was only cheered because he was not Batista then it's safe to say too that Ambrose, Mizdow, Ziggler and even Rusev only got cheered this year because they were not Roman Reigns.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Mar 20, 2015 9:11:30 GMT -5
I've always been a Jericho fan. This bolsters it. Chris Jericho has nothing to gain from being a 'corporate kiss ass'. He's done everything, been everything, and did a lot of it first. One of the best of all time. Something CM Punk will never be able to say, regardless of how good he is. Err, was. What he said here is basic common sense, nothing pandering. Doesn't the dude run a Podcast and what not? I doubt he's going to potentially cost himself listeners to take a stance he doesn't believe in. Reigns was booed at the start of SD last night, and they erupted when he hit Kane with the spear/pin. The dude has fans. He's improving week after week. He's doing his part. All Jericho is saying, is that, and that he finds it interesting how the reaction changed from the RR. I was at Smackdown and watched last night. We were heavily edited. When Mark gave props and "turned face" it was groans. Bryan, Dolph, Ryback, and Ambrose were all more over with the crowd.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 20, 2015 9:16:59 GMT -5
One thing is for sure... Roman Reigns was not getting booed before the Royal Rumble, so that says something. No matter what you say the "turn" on Roman Reigns was weird and didn't make sense. Hell the guy was never booed before the Rumble and booed heavily on his entrance... When he hasn't even won the match yet. No one and I mean no one( "not named WWE") knew for a fact that he was going to win. Something else could have happened and someone else could have won but the guy would still get booed on that day. And Why? Why? There is no logical explanation. Why is it that anyone who defends Regins has to bring up Bryan. Ziggler Ambrose and Sandow all got a positive reaction and they came out after Bryan was long gone. Yes they did.... But so did Roman Reigns the year before. If Roman Reigns last year was only cheered because he was not Batista then it's safe to say too that Ambrose, Mizdow, Ziggler and even Rusev only got cheered this year because they were not Roman Reigns. In Rusev's case yes. He was literally only cheered because he wasn't Roman Reigns. In 2014, Roman didn't just get cheered because he wasn't Batista. It was because, at the time, he was still cool. Ambrose, Mizdow and Ziggler got cheered at the Rumble because they are super popular. Hell, Ambrose, Ziggler and Bryan get the biggest pops in the company each week. I think something that has turned some away from Roman Reigns is his lack of character development. Take my girlfriend for example. She's about as casual a viewer as you can come by. She used to really like the Shield. Since they split, she likes Seth and Dean more because they have their own personality. She doesn't like Roman really anymore because in her eyes, he just looks like a guy stuck in the Shield past, with no personality that makes him enjoyable. That may not be the case with everyone obviously, I can only base it on one casual viewer.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 9:24:14 GMT -5
Stay away from wrestling Jericho, you've just tarnished your legacy with those words.
Nobody loved Roman at any point. They loved The Shield. Mostly due to Ambrose and Rollins.
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Post by punksnotdead on Mar 20, 2015 9:33:23 GMT -5
One thing is for sure... Roman Reigns was not getting booed before the Royal Rumble, so that says something. No matter what you say the "turn" on Roman Reigns was weird and didn't make sense. Hell the guy was never booed before the Rumble and booed heavily on his entrance... When he hasn't even won the match yet. No one and I mean no one( "not named WWE") knew for a fact that he was going to win. Something else could have happened and someone else could have won but the guy would still get booed on that day. And Why? Why? There is no logical explanation. Yes they did.... But so did Roman Reigns the year before. If Roman Reigns last year was only cheered because he was not Batista then it's safe to say too that Ambrose, Mizdow, Ziggler and even Rusev only got cheered this year because they were not Roman Reigns. In Rusev's case yes. He was literally only cheered because he wasn't Roman Reigns. In 2014, Roman didn't just get cheered because he wasn't Batista. It was because, at the time, he was still cool. Ambrose, Mizdow and Ziggler got cheered at the Rumble because they are super popular. Hell, Ambrose, Ziggler and Bryan get the biggest pops in the company each week. I think something that has turned some away from Roman Reigns is his lack of character development. Take my girlfriend for example. She's about as casual a viewer as you can come by. She used to really like the Shield. Since they split, she likes Seth and Dean more because they have their own personality. She doesn't like Roman really anymore because in her eyes, he just looks like a guy stuck in the Shield past, with no personality that makes him enjoyable. That may not be the case with everyone obviously, I can only base it on one casual viewer. Roman was definitely cheered at the end of the 2014 Rumble largely because he was not Batista. The lesser of two evils. It wasn't nearly as full on as the Rusev situation but the hate in 2014 was piled on Batista at the time and Roman directly benefited from that heat. Maybe WWE misinterpreted that situation and saw Roman as a guy the people loved in that moment, I don't know. I don't remember too many people actually wanting Roman Reigns to be the guy to win the Rumble and head to Mania against Orton though. I like that you use you girlfriend as a barometer for the casual viewer. My wife watches Total Divas and then Raw here and there with me and her opinion really helps ground me with stuff I'm completely narrow minded about. Conversely, there is stuff I enjoy and she'll be like "that's embarrassing, why are you watching that right now..." haha. I like having that perspective in my life. I also agree with your girlfriend in that Reigns hasn't had any character development. I know we've talked about this before, but WWE strapped the entire Shield gimmick to Reigns when the Shield was over and dead. It's part of the problem.
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Post by xavion2004 on Mar 20, 2015 9:50:38 GMT -5
I think Jericho is basing his opinion of Reign's popularity in what he has seen at house shows. From what I have seen and heard, Reigns has been super over at most house shows. But obviously not nearly as much on TV. I've heard the same, and if it's true, then that speaks volumes, doesn't it? Where's the fun in trying to sabotage a show or a performer when millions of viewers aren't watching? That's been my real problem with this all along. It's not the fans that have formed their own opinion and write intelligent blogs and posts about why they don't care for Reigns and/or don't believe he should be in this spot. It's the sheep who are just piling on so that they can feel like they're part of something; the same sheep who would be cheering their lungs out for Reigns right now if there wasn't an internet to tell them not to.
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Post by J12 on Mar 20, 2015 9:57:50 GMT -5
Jericho is one of my all-time favorites, but I don't always agree with him. This is an instance where I understand where he's coming from, and agree with what he's saying to a certain extent, but not entirely. To me, Reigns has always been a guy that you knew could be a star, and his reactions were conducive to that. He wasn't there yet, though. I think a lot of his positive reaction stemmed from being part of the Shield, then, once they broke up, it was a lot of good placement. The audiences were noticeably bored with Randy Orton last year, especially during the summer. Put Reigns in a feud with him, he gets cheered. Seth Rollins was establishing himself as the best heel in the business, put Reigns in there with him, he gets cheered. Then you have the crowd entrance thing, which is going to momentarily get anybody over. People get excited when they can see a guy up close from a seat that normally wouldn't allow it. It's cheap pandering, but it works. Reigns was getting popular, but WWE (and apparently, Jericho) drastically overestimated where he was at on the "popularity scale", so to speak. He'd won over the easier segment of the audience - the women and children, but he'd failed entirely to connect with the core male audience. You can't fault Reigns for that, WWE has done him absolutely no favors since the Shield split, aside from booking him against guys that would produce a strong (but ultimately hollow) reaction for him. It's cool to see punksnotdead and The Kevstaaa mention using their girlfriends as sort of casual barometers. I try to do that with my friends as well, especially during Wrestlemania season. My best friend used to hate wrestling, couldn't understand why I watched it, etc. In college, when we lived together, he kind of started getting into it a little bit. He's a casual fan now at best, who usually tunes in around Wrestlemania season. I try to feed him as little information as possible so as to be sure his opinion is left largely untouched by my, admittedly jaded perspective being a longtime and active member of this community. We got to talking about the Road to Wrestlemania last week and he told me how little he's enjoyed what he's seen. I asked him why, specifically, and he said that it was blatantly obvious, even to him, that WWE was forcing a guy who wasn't "there" yet. The first thing he said was "what the hell happened to Roman Reigns?" When I asked what he meant, he told me how cool he thought The Shield was and how much he could get behind all of them (he particularly likes Dean Ambrose.) But, since they split, he views Rollins and Ambrose as individual personalities and sees Reigns as a desperate caricature of himself. Almost as if the only thing stopping Reigns from becoming completely irrelevant is the fact that he kept facets of the Shield that people really liked. I also presented the overall story arc of the last year to another close friend of mine, who is immensely fascinated by film, television, and writing cohesive stories. As an avid comic reader, I like to think he can decently pick out the good and the bad stories in pro wrestling. He knows next to nothing about wrestling. He recognizes names and faces, and has watched shows in the past, but is, by no means, a fan. I presented him the Daniel Bryan/Authority/Roman Reigns arc over the last year and half as objectively as possible, and simply said, "knowing what you know, how do you book Wrestlemania?" I asked him to do it in a way that would satisfy the story he'd been presented with if he were the viewer. Without hesitation, he said, "Daniel Bryan vs. Brock Lesnar, and Triple H vs. Roman Reigns."
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Post by Kyle - legendkilla2k9 on Mar 20, 2015 10:01:01 GMT -5
I really wish people would stop bringing up the fans cheering for Reigns at RR 2014. That was purely because the crowd unanimously didn't want Batista to win.
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