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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Apr 17, 2015 18:26:38 GMT -5
Why is this forum so anti WCW? Yes it had problems but so did WWE in the early 90's and that's why WCW kicked its ass.
The matches weren't perfect but WWE didn't give us technical masterpieces at that period either. I enjoyed WCW a lot from 1991-1994. WCW had the better performers than the WWF at that time. A lot of the in-ring action WCW was providing was awesome. One of my all-time favorite matches in the early-90's was the Dangerous Alliance vs. Sting's Squadron in what was the last five-on-five War Games match from WrestleWar '92. This match was so good that Dave Meltzer gave it five-stars. It really irks me when people downplay the good that came out of WCW. I used to look forward to Saturday's in the pre-Nitro-era. WCW Saturday Night was worth the wait every week. Not to mention, they used to throw the 6:05 PM (Turner Time) timeslot at you. I have fond memories watching WCW and being able to revisit part of my childhood on the WWE Network. |
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Post by Nivro™ on Apr 17, 2015 18:26:48 GMT -5
Most of the terrible stuff is the Post 98/99 stuff where they tried to become WWF Jr. If they would have stuck to being who they were, they would have been fine. NWA/JCP hung their hats on being able to put on great in ring work. While it dwindled off a bit during the MNW's their heart and soul of the fan base still wanted in ring workers. Once you lost guy like Benoit, Malenko, Guerrero and Jericho and then the older names that could work stepped back and/or got older like Flair, Arn, Sting etc...You were just left with a bunch of guys who were green as baby crap and couldnt work a match.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Apr 17, 2015 18:31:17 GMT -5
Most of the terrible stuff is the Post 98/99 stuff where they tried to become WWF Jr. If they would have stuck to being who they were, they would have been fine. NWA/JCP hung their hats on being able to put on great in ring work. While it dwindled off a bit during the MNW's their heart and soul of the fan base still wanted in ring workers. Once you lost guy like Benoit, Malenko, Guerrero and Jericho and then the older names that could work stepped back and/or got older like Flair, Arn, Sting etc...You were just left with a bunch of guys who were green as baby crap and couldnt work a match. The last bit you said is why the WCW Power Plant was a ****ing joke. Makes you wonder why most of the people who came out there didn't have much success in the industry. |
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Post by marino13 on Apr 17, 2015 18:33:18 GMT -5
Konnan vs Rick Steiner. Seriously...
They were so off I stopped watching Nitro for a few weeks after this.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Apr 17, 2015 18:45:03 GMT -5
Why is this forum so anti WCW? Yes it had problems but so did WWE in the early 90's and that's why WCW kicked its ass.
The matches weren't perfect but WWE didn't give us technical masterpieces at that period either. I enjoyed WCW a lot from 1991-1994. WCW had the better performers than the WWF at that time. A lot of the in-ring action WCW was providing was awesome. One of my all-time favorite matches in the early-90's was the Dangerous Alliance vs. Sting's Squadron in what was the last five-on-five War Games match from WrestleWar '92. This match was so good that Dave Meltzer gave it five-stars. It really irks me when people downplay the good that came out of WCW. I used to look forward to Saturday's in the pre-Nitro-era. WCW Saturday Night was worth the wait every week. Not to mention, they used to throw the 6:05 PM (Turner Time) timeslot at you. I have fond memories watching WCW and being able to revisit part of my childhood on the WWE Network. Exactly I agree 100% Also if WCW was as bad as people make out then how come it became competition to the WWE AND beat them at times during the Monday Night Wars?
WCW forced the WWE to pick up their game and we got the Attitude era because of it.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Apr 17, 2015 19:26:34 GMT -5
I enjoyed WCW a lot from 1991-1994. WCW had the better performers than the WWF at that time. A lot of the in-ring action WCW was providing was awesome. One of my all-time favorite matches in the early-90's was the Dangerous Alliance vs. Sting's Squadron in what was the last five-on-five War Games match from WrestleWar '92. This match was so good that Dave Meltzer gave it five-stars. It really irks me when people downplay the good that came out of WCW. I used to look forward to Saturday's in the pre-Nitro-era. WCW Saturday Night was worth the wait every week. Not to mention, they used to throw the 6:05 PM (Turner Time) timeslot at you. I have fond memories watching WCW and being able to revisit part of my childhood on the WWE Network. Exactly I agree 100% Also if WCW was as bad as people make out then how come it became competition to the WWE AND beat them at times during the Monday Night Wars?
WCW forced the WWE to pick up their game and we got the Attitude era because of it.
One thing I've noticed about a lot of wrestling fans is their jaded mind. Without WCW, a lot of what we saw in the latter part of the '90's would have never taken place. It is a shame people downplay the great moments WCW was offering. |
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Apr 17, 2015 21:18:51 GMT -5
How about the "Viagra on a Pole" match? When did that happen? For some reason, it's not letting me put the match here. Here's a rundown- Shane Douglas and Billy Kidman were in the middle of a long feud. In July, one angle was that Douglas had a sex tape with Kidman's valet, Torrie Wilson (who had left Kidman earlier), but had... ahem, "problems." Thus, Ernest "The Cat" Miller setup this match. The match itself isn't great, but what's interesting is the ending. Kidman grabbed the Viagra, but after coming down from the ropes, Douglas caught him and used the Franchiser (a shoulder jawbreaker), breaking the bottle in the process. Even though the bottle was really never used, nor did Douglas get the pin as you typically see in pole matches, he still won the match nonetheless, thanks to Torrie, who distracted the referee. What's even worse about this match is the horrible puns that are used throughout. Honorable mention goes to the "Judy Bagwell on a pole" match. |
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Post by JC Motors on Apr 17, 2015 21:36:47 GMT -5
For some reason, it's not letting me put the match here. Here's a rundown- Shane Douglas and Billy Kidman were in the middle of a long feud. In July, one angle was that Douglas had a sex tape with Kidman's valet, Torrie Wilson (who had left Kidman earlier), but had... ahem, "problems." Thus, Ernest "The Cat" Miller setup this match. The match itself isn't great, but what's interesting is the ending. Kidman grabbed the Viagra, but after coming down from the ropes, Douglas caught him and used the Franchiser (a shoulder jawbreaker), breaking the bottle in the process. Even though the bottle was really never used, nor did Douglas get the pin as you typically see in pole matches, he still won the match nonetheless, thanks to Torrie, who distracted the referee. What's even worse about this match is the horrible puns that are used throughout. Honorable mention goes to the "Judy Bagwell on a pole" match. That is awful |
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Post by Roman Bellic on Apr 17, 2015 22:19:44 GMT -5
For some reason, it's not letting me put the match here. Here's a rundown- Shane Douglas and Billy Kidman were in the middle of a long feud. In July, one angle was that Douglas had a sex tape with Kidman's valet, Torrie Wilson (who had left Kidman earlier), but had... ahem, "problems." Thus, Ernest "The Cat" Miller setup this match. The match itself isn't great, but what's interesting is the ending. Kidman grabbed the Viagra, but after coming down from the ropes, Douglas caught him and used the Franchiser (a shoulder jawbreaker), breaking the bottle in the process. Even though the bottle was really never used, nor did Douglas get the pin as you typically see in pole matches, he still won the match nonetheless, thanks to Torrie, who distracted the referee. What's even worse about this match is the horrible puns that are used throughout. Honorable mention goes to the "Judy Bagwell on a pole" match. That is awful i believe it was mentioned on WWE "Are you serious?" |
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Post by Liv Is Life on Apr 17, 2015 22:21:04 GMT -5
Yup, Judy Bagwell wins hands down..
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Post by A-Rob on Apr 18, 2015 2:19:39 GMT -5
Madusa vs. Oklahoma (Ed Ferara)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2015 3:55:55 GMT -5
warrior vs hogan
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Post by mikey1974 on Apr 19, 2015 18:40:14 GMT -5
oh man......this list of matches could be LEGION like. Hogan was definitely involved in 5 of the highest profile sh*tbombs ever devised by WCW vs Sting @ Starrcade 1997 vs Warrior @ HH98 vs Nash on Jan 4th 1999 Nitro vs Sting @ Halloween Havoc 1999 vs Jarrett @ BATB 2000 ALL of these should have been HUGE deals and looked back on fondly. But we got what we got...... let's not forget Uncensored '96 as well - Hogan and Macho man vs the Alliance to End Hulkamania. |
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Apr 19, 2015 18:43:15 GMT -5
Most of the matches involving the main event guys sucked in WCW in the late 90s until its demise. My fave WCW era was the early 90s that doesnt get the credit it should.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 21:19:51 GMT -5
That match where madusa and torrie wilson was hanging in the air.
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