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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 8:52:59 GMT -5
-I don't understand the obsession some people have with divas figure. I get have them, but the people that solely collect them come off as creepy. I feel like the majority of the people that buy all of them, are diva collectors buying multiples or scalpers to sell to said collectors.
-we don't need random 80s/90's jobbers/midcarders that no one remembers
-I'm satisfied with mattel and bills work on everything. No matter how many customs you make, you can't do his job better.
-100% accurate attires are no a must for me, nor should be for anyone else..since most people don't remember them anyway with using google.
-if you spend $2000 on a single figure or in a week on figures, you should probably see a doctor because you might have an actual obsession issue. The excuse is "I can afford it and it's my money" but that doesn't shy from the fact that you honestly should seek help realizing your issue.
-I don't get why people buy brand new figures, swap parts to "make it more to scale" or "more accurate" When the outcome looks like total crap.
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Post by gregrules420 on May 4, 2015 9:00:17 GMT -5
Damn, so being the first response I played it safe so people wouldn't jump my s#!t. You guys are really laying it out there. I can now say this and it not be the worst thing that's been said: Screw Carnage and Venom. Screw people who want an "R" rated Venom movie. And screw Finn Balor's facepaint. Venom and Carnage and their overuse were everything wrong with 90's Marvel garbage. "Hey kids, these aren't your daddy's comics, hell, these aren't your cool uncle that let you sip his beer when you were five's comics! These are the 90's and we're tragically self aware of how f'ing cool and edgy and dark we are! Come stand on the razor's edge!!" I wonder how many people would still jerk off to Finn Balor if he didn't wear those dumb character's likenesses as body paint. Has anyone actually read a comic that those guys are in? Sure, they look cool, but outside of the recent tongue-in-cheek Carnage books, they are stupid and boring characters. Which was the flavor of the day at Marvel. agreed already not a fan of him but the overuse of dumb stuff makes me like him even less and as far as that whole nineties comic thing nothing killed Spiderman more than that stupid clone thing where he wasn't the real Spiderman maybe this one was it was stupid
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Post by T on May 4, 2015 9:01:48 GMT -5
I came to post about the RSC Hogan being terrible, but after reading a few others writing it, it might not be that unpopular of an opinion.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 9:05:26 GMT -5
The only 80s guy I want a figure of now is Dr Death Steve Williams. He's one of my favourite wrestlers ever and he deserves a figure for sure due to his contribution to pro wrestling.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 9:05:44 GMT -5
-I don't understand the obsession some people have with divas figure. I get have them, but the people that solely collect them come off as creepy. I feel like the majority of the people that buy all of them, are diva collectors buying multiples or scalpers to sell to said collectors. -we don't need random 80s/90's jobbers/midcarders that no one remembers -I'm satisfied with mattel and bills work on everything. No matter how many customs you make, you can't do his job better. -100% accurate attires are no a must for me, nor should be for anyone else..since most people don't remember them anyway with using google. -if you spend $2000 on a single figure or in a week on figures, you should probably see a doctor because you might have an actual obsession issue. The excuse is "I can afford it and it's my money" but that doesn't shy from the fact that you honestly should seek help realizing your issue. -I don't get why people buy brand new figures, swap parts to "make it more to scale" or "more accurate" When the outcome looks like total crap. Everybody, I have found my new best friend.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 9:13:25 GMT -5
1. Having multiple threads about the same pickups is rather pointless. You got that figure too?! Congrats 2. Legends Brian Pillman is in the top 10 of mattels best figures 3. SDCC Undertaker is great but too thin, ironically at that time period taker gained weight. 4. All elite DX figures was a fail except Shawns 5. We need more elite Cesaro's That's it for now.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 9:14:17 GMT -5
-I don't understand the obsession some people have with divas figure. I get have them, but the people that solely collect them come off as creepy. I feel like the majority of the people that buy all of them, are diva collectors buying multiples or scalpers to sell to said collectors. -we don't need random 80s/90's jobbers/midcarders that no one remembers -I'm satisfied with mattel and bills work on everything. No matter how many customs you make, you can't do his job better. -100% accurate attires are no a must for me, nor should be for anyone else..since most people don't remember them anyway with using google. -if you spend $2000 on a single figure or in a week on figures, you should probably see a doctor because you might have an actual obsession issue. The excuse is "I can afford it and it's my money" but that doesn't shy from the fact that you honestly should seek help realizing your issue. -I don't get why people buy brand new figures, swap parts to "make it more to scale" or "more accurate" When the outcome looks like total crap.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 9:50:14 GMT -5
-I don't understand the obsession some people have with divas figure. I get have them, but the people that solely collect them come off as creepy. I feel like the majority of the people that buy all of them, are diva collectors buying multiples or scalpers to sell to said collectors. -we don't need random 80s/90's jobbers/midcarders that no one remembers -I'm satisfied with mattel and bills work on everything. No matter how many customs you make, you can't do his job better. -100% accurate attires are no a must for me, nor should be for anyone else..since most people don't remember them anyway with using google. -if you spend $2000 on a single figure or in a week on figures, you should probably see a doctor because you might have an actual obsession issue. The excuse is "I can afford it and it's my money" but that doesn't shy from the fact that you honestly should seek help realizing your issue. -I don't get why people buy brand new figures, swap parts to "make it more to scale" or "more accurate" When the outcome looks like total crap. This X100000000000000000000000000000
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 9:54:20 GMT -5
People shouldn't judge others on what they spend their money on, whether it $2 or $2000, don't hate the player, hate the game!
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Post by HVMMONS on May 4, 2015 10:11:57 GMT -5
I can already tell this will be a great thread.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on May 4, 2015 10:15:54 GMT -5
I don't see why we can't have more cloth clothing. They're made by the same company that makes Barbie. Does she get sculpted/molded dresses now? (Legit question) Barbie still has cloth clothing. So if someone is obsessed with cloth clothing, they should collect Barbie instead of WWE. These two things are unrelated. Mattel can't magically force toys into stores that don't want them. That's why they went online-only. And we still didn't buy them, because Kamala for $3 at Family Dollar was a good deal and $20 online for Tully Blanchard wasn't a good deal.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 10:19:08 GMT -5
Anyone say elite dean malenko yet?
Also I hate seeing edge as a flashback, the RSC exclusive was about as close a re release of his first few figures as possible
These are just My unpopular opinions
Yep that's about it.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on May 4, 2015 10:22:22 GMT -5
-I don't understand the fascination with cloth clothing for figures at all. Pretty much every item of it at this scale looks bad, often horrendous. And if it was to do with authenticity, people would also demand that the trunks be spandex, the chairs be metal, and the hair be hair.
-John Cena with new armband colours is a more viable figure than an obscure midcarder from 20-40 years ago.
-Headsculpts and headscans are not the same thing.
-Some of the recent Defining Moments figures are basically just a cash-in. Flair and Razor were based on no defining moment, and Razor was just a bad figure.
-The long kneepads are usually the best choice because the shins/knees on most figures are too long.
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Post by JDSFullmetal on May 4, 2015 10:37:07 GMT -5
People that think collecting Diva figures is "creepy" need to take a good long look in the mirror, maybe with all their half naked little plastic men behind them. I sometimes wish Mattel would not make someone just because of people making "This guy just debuted. Mattel, make him NOW!" God, I hate those posts, more so when they say "Someone had to say it, lulz" No, you didn't. Divas sell better than flashbacks. I prefer soft plastic shirts(they are and never have been made of rubber) over cloth shirts. We need "known" flashbacks. Tell me why we got Crush, yet we still don't have 1999-2001 Triple H? We need more flashbacks from the "RA" Era. There should never be more than 2 flashbacks per ANY series, unless it's the HOF series.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 10:41:03 GMT -5
I hate the C open hands, I don't care if they are good for chokeslams and water bottles, 99% of figures look dumb with them.
Punk, Rock, Edge, Hogan all awful rsc exclusives
No one loves an attractive woman more than me but Sofia Vergara is gross and off the charts annoying
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Post by HVMMONS on May 4, 2015 10:49:43 GMT -5
The current Elite boxes/packaging is the best design Mattel has made for the figures.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 10:56:12 GMT -5
I don't see why we can't have more cloth clothing. They're made by the same company that makes Barbie. Does she get sculpted/molded dresses now? (Legit question) Barbie still has cloth clothing. So if someone is obsessed with cloth clothing, they should collect Barbie instead of WWE. These two things are unrelated. Mattel can't magically force toys into stores that don't want them. I'm not good with formatting. Point A rebuttal - We used to get more cloth shirts and outfits than we do now. My point with this was, if a massive company like Mattel that has spent decades making cloth clothing for another toy line, surely they know how to cost effectively make it for another. A large portion of what people seem to be asking for is the standard t-shirt with a silk screened image on it. I'll take a standard cloth shirt against the plastic/not-plastic bullet proof armor shirt any day. It was more of a point in we used to get it and then it was taken away. Point B rebuttal - I've read the post in your signature, and it can be both agreed upon and refuted, equally. The part about if you got rid of those lines, then the other lines would cost more, that's up for a gentleman's debate, because like I mentioned in another bullet point, the stuff in all of my stores that is not Elite/Basic related just rots. Mattel isn't seeing the full profit, a large majority of those figures are going to end up at a Big Lots or Ollies at liquidation prices. Why go through that exercise if you can allocate it to the Elite line to have more accurate or better detailed figures? I think this will also lead into a discussion about how if distribution was in sync properly and there was the proper space, then all stores will be fully stocked with the latest Basic / Elite / Battle Pack lines. Just because on paper it does work that 3 different lines will net you $36, doesn't compare to a real world scenario where my store has 1/3 of its allocated space being taken up by things that don't sell, only allowing room for 1 box of Elites that will sell out and be restocked within 2 weeks, opposed to having space for 2 boxes of Elites that can sell within the same time. Within the same time you can have a better chance of selling 9 Elites than 8 Elites and 2 Slam City single figures, which will net you more profit. Point C rebuttal - All the stores I've been to in my area, has all the Slam City and Super Strikers at full pegs, just sitting. Even the Big Lots in my area has Rumblers still sitting there. The Legends line came at an adjusting time where people were just coming off of the Jakks Classic Superstars line and getting accustomed to Mattel's Legends. They were quick to dismiss it and absorb it into the Elite's line, yet in six months I can go to my local Wal-Mart or what have you and pick up the same Randy Orton / Gorilla Slam City set out of the dozen that have been sitting there for half a year already.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 11:01:18 GMT -5
Damn, so being the first response I played it safe so people wouldn't jump my s#!t. You guys are really laying it out there. I can now say this and it not be the worst thing that's been said: Screw Carnage and Venom. Screw people who want an "R" rated Venom movie. And screw Finn Balor's facepaint. Venom and Carnage and their overuse were everything wrong with 90's Marvel garbage. "Hey kids, these aren't your daddy's comics, hell, these aren't your cool uncle that let you sip his beer when you were five's comics! These are the 90's and we're tragically self aware of how f'ing cool and edgy and dark we are! Come stand on the razor's edge!!" I wonder how many people would still jerk off to Finn Balor if he didn't wear those dumb character's likenesses as body paint. Has anyone actually read a comic that those guys are in? Sure, they look cool, but outside of the recent tongue-in-cheek Carnage books, they are stupid and boring characters. Which was the flavor of the day at Marvel. What does that have to do with figures?
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on May 4, 2015 11:30:49 GMT -5
Point A rebuttal - We used to get more cloth shirts and outfits than we do now. My point with this was, if a massive company like Mattel that has spent decades making cloth clothing for another toy line, surely they know how to cost effectively make it for another. MDT has already answered why cloth items are more feasible for Barbie than WWE. Economies of scale. Plus girls like dress-up dolls. This is a boys' toy line, and boys don't care so much for dress-up dolls. Hardcore collectors who will buy the figure either way are largely immaterial. I would have loved a jacket, fake arm and bucket with Doink. The lack of those things didn't stop me buying the Doink they released though. False. If Mattel eliminates a line and folds that line's budget into another line, then the line with the higher budget now carries a higher cost. We can play pretend that if Mattel added a ton to the budget of elite figures and kept the same price there'd be such an astronomic increase in sales that the economies of scale would make it worthwhile, but if we're over the age of twelve, we'd have to realise that that is not what would happen. Earthquake isn't going to sell in the millions just because he has an extra accessory and better paint apps. And we're supposed to be over the age of twelve to sign up on here, so it's a debate that wouldn't arise. Those elites are going to sell significantly slower when they're costing $10 more each because some guy on the internet wanted the development/production costs of a Slam City pack being added to them. If a line fails, retailers will no longer re-order it. That's why several of the lines are no longer produced. Regardless of what you see in your area (which coincidentally happens to be a popular hardcore collector scenario of "the things I like best are the ones that sell best, I promise"), retailers and Mattel are the ones who actually have the numbers and make decisions accordingly. As I said, Mattel couldn't magically force Legends series 7 onto Walmart's shelves, any more than they could magically force me to pay $20 for Arn Anderson. Retailers didn't want the line, so how do you expect Mattel could have sold Legends series 7? By buying out Walmart?
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Post by TheChosen1 on May 4, 2015 11:33:24 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan's RSC Exclusive is garbage. The headscan doesn't help this figure's cause either. It will top Rock as the worst RSC Exclusive. Pathetic use of an exclusive. I agree only thing I like is the pose. But I did buy one for my mom only because the face scan looks like my step dad without his teeth in
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