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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jun 20, 2015 19:26:12 GMT -5
Some of you know that I create and sell tshirts in an online store and on ebay. I am looking for a new graphics creator. The position is paid. You will receive a monthly commission on all sales. I create the designs, but I need someone to take my ideas and create the graphics necessary for print. If you are proficient with photoshop, PM me, send me a sample of your work and lets exchange contact info.
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Post by screech on Jun 21, 2015 17:48:16 GMT -5
I would advise everyone to be careful in this situation that you don't get caught up in any type of copyright/trademark lawsuit. Some of his items include the actual Arrow logo incorporated into them which I guarantee he does not have legal ownership of or any type of merchandising deal through WB.
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Post by screech on Jun 23, 2015 19:56:20 GMT -5
I would advise everyone to be careful in this situation that you don't get caught up in any type of copyright/trademark lawsuit. Some of his items include the actual Arrow logo incorporated into them which I guarantee he does not have legal ownership of or any type of merchandising deal through WB. While this is in fact true, this position would NOT be working with ANY of those and those items only appear in my online store. They do not appear on ebay. Everything on ebay is my idea with another person's photoshop work. In fact, the shirt you speak of has never sold once and I am gonna remove it from the store. So there is ZERO fear of any legal issue. And Stephen Amell owns several pieces from my store. You had to remove at least 3-4 different items you were trying to sell with that logo on it and possibly others. The illegal usage of their logo wasn't even the full extent of it though. You also can't take someone else's image and add a filter to it and call it your own. You use this specific design for multiple items but it's clearly stolen from an image that you do not own:   I'm also certain you don't own the image that's pasted into this design either:  Stephen Amell owning your items has no bearing on the legality of you trying to pass others' work off as your own for profit. Add on the fact that you even advertise your store as having "Arrow Merchandise" could probably get you in major trouble as it is. Even if this position is for your eBay store and not for the "Arrow Merchandise" store, your lack of understanding of these laws should be concerning for anyone considering applying. You haven't provided any link to your eBay store or mentioned what type of shirts you sell, so for all we know it could be a similar operation where you are trying to profit off of possibly copyrighted/trademarked material. So again, I would advise everyone to be very, very careful here in this situation because he has clearly been very oblivious on the laws already and I'd hate for his new "designer" to be the fall guy in any type of copyright lawsuit. |
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Post by ET had AIDS on Jun 23, 2015 20:06:57 GMT -5
While intriguing, this looked interesting or "sounded good" for about .2 seconds... I would be very nervous given the info at hand in here, or I would be modestly interested. But after all of this, the next thing I feel like I'd find out is I'm going to be working in a sweat shop and making less than 5%. That is somewhat a joke... but I am too cautious with internet dealings, or else I might be more interested having not known all of that. Sorry...
(But thanks to the poster above for the legal notes... I have enough sticky situations on my belt notch to date and don't need to risk more.)
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jun 23, 2015 22:12:24 GMT -5
I will not engage into a debate on the graphics board. I will send rikheshe a PM. If someone is interested, they can feel free to PM me. If not, thats ok. Its not for everyone. Thanks for looking.
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Post by screech on Jun 24, 2015 0:01:49 GMT -5
This is going to be my last reply in this thread. I am NOT flaming CM Showstopper or trying to argue about anything minor such as opposing opinions. I am simply stating facts regarding the law so that people are careful when dealing with someone who is misinformed and could get them in trouble in the future.
I already replied to his private message that was trying to tell me how I'm wrong but I feel it's necessary to warn people one last time so they don't get caught up in something illegal.
Here are the facts:
1. He thought it was ok to use Arrow's official logo on items that he sells in his advertised 'Arrow Merchandise' online store. He admitted he was wrong and removed those items.
2. He thinks that because he commissioned an artist to "replicate the image" (his exact quote), that he then gains ownership of that image. I direct everyone to research the AP/Shepard Fairey lawsuit. He created the famous HOPE Obama posters using a slightly edited image that was owned by AP and tried to profit of it as if it was his own. The image that CM is selling on shirts is 100% a doctored version of that very same promo image that is owned and distributed by Warner Bros. Spending 5 minutes editing it in Photoshop does not grant someone exclusive license to sell that image. (and especially not when you go ahead and throw in their actual tv logo and use the show's title in your advertisement as well.)
3. He believes that because "arrow" is an every day word, there is no problem with legally advertising your store as "Arrow Merchandise" while using logos and images from the TV show "Arrow" on the merchandise. If he were to advertise an arrow head shop as "Arrow Merchandise" then that would be absolutely fine. However, his usage of the term "Arrow" in "Arrow Merchandise" is referring to the Warner Bros. Show "Arrow" and nothing else. He is not a vendor through Warner Bros.
4. He claims that "Each artist that has worked with me knows what role they play ". (another exact quote) This is the exact reason why I feel it's necessary to warn people who may not be knowledgable on these types of laws. The person who edited that Warner Bros. image and then gained compensation from doing so either was unaware of the law or just simply didn't care. I'd hate for someone to get caught up in a big legal mess simply because the person that they're hired by is completely misinformed on the law. Then what? He would probably claim that you knew what role you played.
As stated, this is my last reply. I'm not trying to flame CM Showstopper or argue about differing opinions. I'm just trying to warn people that it may not be the best idea to assume he knows the laws when he thought it was legal to put Arrow's logo on a t-shirt and sell it. Just saying...
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Post by Suckasays on Jun 24, 2015 7:00:43 GMT -5
This is going to be my last reply in this thread. I am NOT flaming CM Showstopper or trying to argue about anything minor such as opposing opinions. I am simply stating facts regarding the law so that people are careful when dealing with someone who is misinformed and could get them in trouble in the future. I already replied to his private message that was trying to tell me how I'm wrong but I feel it's necessary to warn people one last time so they don't get caught up in something illegal. Here are the facts: 1. He thought it was ok to use Arrow's official logo on items that he sells in his advertised 'Arrow Merchandise' online store. He admitted he was wrong and removed those items. 2. He thinks that because he commissioned an artist to "replicate the image" (his exact quote), that he then gains ownership of that image. I direct everyone to research the AP/Shepard Fairey lawsuit. He created the famous HOPE Obama posters using a slightly edited image that was owned by AP and tried to profit of it as if it was his own. The image that CM is selling on shirts is 100% a doctored version of that very same promo image that is owned and distributed by Warner Bros. Spending 5 minutes editing it in Photoshop does not grant someone exclusive license to sell that image. (and especially not when you go ahead and throw in their actual tv logo and use the show's title in your advertisement as well.) 3. He believes that because "arrow" is an every day word, there is no problem with legally advertising your store as "Arrow Merchandise" while using logos and images from the TV show "Arrow" on the merchandise. If he were to advertise an arrow head shop as "Arrow Merchandise" then that would be absolutely fine. However, his usage of the term "Arrow" in "Arrow Merchandise" is referring to the Warner Bros. Show "Arrow" and nothing else. He is not a vendor through Warner Bros. 4. He claims that "Each artist that has worked with me knows what role they play ". (another exact quote) This is the exact reason why I feel it's necessary to warn people who may not be knowledgable on these types of laws. The person who edited that Warner Bros. image and then gained compensation from doing so either was unaware of the law or just simply didn't care. I'd hate for someone to get caught up in a big legal mess simply because the person that they're hired by is completely misinformed on the law. Then what? He would probably claim that you knew what role you played. As stated, this is my last reply. I'm not trying to flame CM Showstopper or argue about differing opinions. I'm just trying to warn people that it may not be the best idea to assume he knows the laws when he thought it was legal to put Arrow's logo on a t-shirt and sell it. Just saying... I have to say, this guy nailed it. T shirt companies such as TeeFury get by with this due to a parody law. Everything they do is full on parody. Things like the arrow shop clearly are not. With that said, there's not a lot of difference in something such as this and pirating movies and music. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2015 21:57:16 GMT -5
Lmao Cmshowstopper at it again. smh.
are you still stalking jeff hardy and the rock?
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jun 24, 2015 22:38:34 GMT -5
Lmao Cmshowstopper at it again. smh. are you still stalking jeff hardy and the rock? Hey....its a troll! You keep being jealous and I'll keep racking the autos. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2015 22:44:57 GMT -5
Lmao Cmshowstopper at it again. smh. are you still stalking jeff hardy and the rock? Hey....its a troll! You keep being jealous and I'll keep racking the autos. i couldnt care less. wooooo autographs  keep making your shirts with your uncreativeness and copyrighted materials. hope you get caught  |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jun 24, 2015 22:49:43 GMT -5
Hey....its a troll! You keep being jealous and I'll keep racking the autos. i couldnt care less. wooooo autographs keep making your shirts with copyrighted materials. hope you get caught If you didnt care....you wouldnt feel the need to post it in a thread about graphics. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2015 22:50:55 GMT -5
i couldnt care less. wooooo autographs keep making your shirts with copyrighted materials. hope you get caught If you didnt care....you wouldnt feel the need to post it in a thread about graphics. I wondered who made the thread, i clicked and then cringed. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jun 24, 2015 22:53:04 GMT -5
If you didnt care....you wouldnt feel the need to post it in a thread about graphics. I wondered who made the thread, i clicked and then cringed. And yet....still decided to make a trolling comment. It was off topic and unneeded. |
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Post by ET had AIDS on Jun 24, 2015 23:03:42 GMT -5
CMshowstopper, y so seriously bitter? you gettin' autos dawg.
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Post by ET had AIDS on Jun 24, 2015 23:06:16 GMT -5
In all seriousness, I don't see why you are arguing this case so vehemently when rikishe is pretty much 100% on the money. I had looked at the position since I do a lot of freelance work, but even I recognized a fish when I smelled the fish...
I was a former admin and see nothing wrong with rikishe simply informing other users to be careful with what they stick their nose in, and frankly, posting illegal avenues for $ making has to be a TOS violation in some way or another. So technically...
Suckasays, another admin (current too) also agreed with him. Why do you keep defending it? Just let it go and drop the Arrow stuff from the picture. Arguing this is petty and makes your case look worse. Just being honest pal...
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Post by T R W on Jun 25, 2015 8:06:11 GMT -5
Yeah I am going to lock this. It's definitely a legally ambiguous situation at best. WF isn't the location to place to post Help Wanted ads in the first place. And certainly not for ones as questionable as this.
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