powerfred3k
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Post by powerfred3k on Jun 28, 2015 13:30:12 GMT -5
Ok so a while back when i still had cable tv and a dvr I heard about tna and gave them a chance. I am not sure the exact date but it was just before they went to 2 hours and petey williams was around with his awesome canadian destroyer finisher. I even a while back bought his only figure made from toybiz off of ebay. All those guys i really bought into, samoa joe, aj styles, petey williams, sting, kurt angle, and all the knockouts because they where 10 times better in the ring than the diva crap i watching elsewhere. But i look at tna now i have stopped watching a long time ago when hogan was still working there. Almost all the talents i first saw and bought into are gone, or they where gone and came back for while and are gone again. TNA wrestling does not know how to build stars, they hot-shot everyone who is new and comes into the company. Then 6 months down the road the new people fizzle out and ask for there release or are canned. The few wrestlers than can get over after getting the hot-shot treatment they ask for a raise and tna lets them go anyway. Then they go and resign guys like "Gunner" and can him a year after signing a new deal ?? They won't pay A.J. Styles who was Mr. TNA, but they will pay Gunner  Austin Aires is gone, and so is James Storm ?? What the hell ?? Some many tna guys gone that i cared about, TNA needs to die. I am sorry to say that to people who still support them, but they do. When have they ever made any money ? Paul Heyman in an interview with Steve Austin mentioned briefly how much money they where losing in a month. So unless your Kurt Angle or Sting while he was there your not doing too well anyway. TNA needs to die and maybe some good can come from it... |
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Post by Mr. #1derful 🇵🇸 on Jun 28, 2015 13:34:17 GMT -5
Dixe Carter needs a crown and a sash that reads "Miss Management."
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jun 28, 2015 13:45:41 GMT -5
I agree with everything except the possibility of something good coming from TNA going under. If a smaller fed doesn't step up or if Jeff Jarrett doesn't buy them out it will be terrible for the industry. Guys need places to work, not to mention all the non-wrestling jobs that will be lost.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 13:48:19 GMT -5
Gunner wasn't making nearly as much as AJ Styles. It would be a lot to cheaper to pay Gunner than AJ. That's like saying, "I can't believe WWE won't pay CM Punk but will keep Hornswoggle." Yeah, because their paychecks are completely different.
And just because you don't like something, doesn't mean it should die. There are still fans and plenty of hard working people for that company. No wrestling company should ever die, if you're a wrestling fan you should want as much wrestling on TV as possible. It grows the industry as a whole. If TNA died so many talented people who deserve shots on TV and deserve recognition would be out of a job. It's such a mindless thing to say, "TNA should die" I cannot stand it when wrestling "fans" wish death upon any company whether it be TNA, WWE, ROH, PWG, what have you.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jun 28, 2015 13:51:56 GMT -5
Gunner wasn't making nearly as much as AJ Styles. It would be a lot to cheaper to pay Gunner than AJ. That's like saying, "I can't believe WWE won't pay CM Punk but will keep Hornswoggle." Yeah, because their paychecks are completely different. And just because you don't like something, doesn't mean it should die. There are still fans and plenty of hard working people for that company. No wrestling company should ever die, if you're a wrestling fan you should want as much wrestling on TV as possible. It grows the industry as a whole. If TNA died so many talented people who deserve shots on TV and deserve recognition would be out of a job. It's such a mindless thing to say, "TNA should die" I cannot stand it when wrestling "fans" wish death upon any company whether it be TNA, WWE, ROH, PWG, what have you. TNA doesn't grow the industry, or pay people much (a lot of the roster need indie dates and/or regular jobs to make ends meet) -- and even worse, being a TNA wrestler is a black mark on someone's CV as far as WWE is concerned. There are exceptions like Samoa Joe, but for guys like Magnus and Gunner, that TNA stink on their resume might stop them from ever making it in the big time. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 13:55:47 GMT -5
Gunner wasn't making nearly as much as AJ Styles. It would be a lot to cheaper to pay Gunner than AJ. That's like saying, "I can't believe WWE won't pay CM Punk but will keep Hornswoggle." Yeah, because their paychecks are completely different. And just because you don't like something, doesn't mean it should die. There are still fans and plenty of hard working people for that company. No wrestling company should ever die, if you're a wrestling fan you should want as much wrestling on TV as possible. It grows the industry as a whole. If TNA died so many talented people who deserve shots on TV and deserve recognition would be out of a job. It's such a mindless thing to say, "TNA should die" I cannot stand it when wrestling "fans" wish death upon any company whether it be TNA, WWE, ROH, PWG, what have you. TNA doesn't grow the industry, or pay people much (a lot of the roster need indie dates and/or regular jobs to make ends meet) -- and even worse, being a TNA wrestler is a black mark on someone's CV as far as WWE is concerned. There are exceptions like Samoa Joe, but for guys like Magnus and Gunner, that TNA stink on their resume might stop them from ever making it in the big time. WWE didn't hire them in the first place. So if WWE doesn't want a wrestler, they should just keep doing the indies until maybe one day, maybe a day that will never come, WWE comes calling? Of course talent should go to TNA or ROH. It helps them, get some attention on them. And yeah, they make need to work other indie dates but so do indie wrestlers. And it's not like WWE is the ONLY wrestling company out there. Hell, AJ Styles is making one hell of a living in New Japan. |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jun 28, 2015 14:13:43 GMT -5
WWE didn't hire them in the first place. So if WWE doesn't want a wrestler, they should just keep doing the indies until maybe one day, maybe a day that will never come, WWE comes calling? Of course talent should go to TNA or ROH. ROH, yes. TNA, no. Unless they get to the top of TNA (which is impossible now that TNA has bottomed out), the TNA stink is going to harm their chances of getting in the door at the real show. That is not the case for ROH -- WWE doesn't consider ROH guys damaged goods like TNA guys are. ROH is also a company that is making money and paying wrestlers and staff on time. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 14:15:17 GMT -5
WWE didn't hire them in the first place. So if WWE doesn't want a wrestler, they should just keep doing the indies until maybe one day, maybe a day that will never come, WWE comes calling? Of course talent should go to TNA or ROH. ROH, yes. TNA, no. Unless they get to the top of TNA (which is impossible now that TNA has bottomed out), the TNA stink is going to harm their chances of getting in the door at the real show. That is not the case for ROH -- WWE doesn't consider ROH guys damaged goods like TNA guys are. ROH is also a company that is making money and paying wrestlers and staff on time. We don't know that for sure though. We have no idea how WWE operates. Hell, they signed Consequences Creed!!!! To make any comment on what WWE thinks is asinine. We have no idea. We are "fans". |
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Post by powerfred3k on Jun 28, 2015 16:56:07 GMT -5
ROH, yes. TNA, no. Unless they get to the top of TNA (which is impossible now that TNA has bottomed out), the TNA stink is going to harm their chances of getting in the door at the real show. That is not the case for ROH -- WWE doesn't consider ROH guys damaged goods like TNA guys are. ROH is also a company that is making money and paying wrestlers and staff on time. We don't know that for sure though. We have no idea how WWE operates. Hell, they signed Consequences Creed!!!! To make any comment on what WWE thinks is asinine. We have no idea. We are "fans". Consequences Creed another guy i bought into along with Jay Lethal, both those guys where over with the fans and me. Then a while later they have nothing for them, it is just crap, crap, crap. What they did to Petey Williams should be a federal crime, he was so over with his finisher. I really enjoyed watching him, then they pair him with scott steiner and it was all done hill from there... |
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jun 28, 2015 17:44:23 GMT -5
Gunner wasn't making nearly as much as AJ Styles. It would be a lot to cheaper to pay Gunner than AJ. That's like saying, "I can't believe WWE won't pay CM Punk but will keep Hornswoggle." Yeah, because their paychecks are completely different. And just because you don't like something, doesn't mean it should die. There are still fans and plenty of hard working people for that company. No wrestling company should ever die, if you're a wrestling fan you should want as much wrestling on TV as possible. It grows the industry as a whole. If TNA died so many talented people who deserve shots on TV and deserve recognition would be out of a job. It's such a mindless thing to say, "TNA should die" I cannot stand it when wrestling "fans" wish death upon any company whether it be TNA, WWE, ROH, PWG, what have you. TNA doesn't grow the industry, or pay people much (a lot of the roster need indie dates and/or regular jobs to make ends meet) -- and even worse, being a TNA wrestler is a black mark on someone's CV as far as WWE is concerned. There are exceptions like Samoa Joe, but for guys like Magnus and Gunner, that TNA stink on their resume might stop them from ever making it in the big time. Many wrestlers need second jobs to make ends meet. That isn't exclusive to TNA. And they do grow the industry by providing jobs for wrestlers that haven't gotten to WWE, have been realesed or quit WWE or will never make it there. I don't think WWE should necessarily be the metric of a successful career. There are many, many talented men and women who deserve to make it there that won't for various reasons. They never got their chance, timing, the finite number of roster spots, etc. On the other side of that, there have been quite a few people over the years that had no business being there. And there are some who made it there and should have been successful but for whatever it didn't work out. |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jun 28, 2015 17:48:31 GMT -5
Many wrestlers need second jobs to make ends meet. That isn't exclusive to TNA. There has never been another full-time national federation that employed stars like Hulk Hogan, Sting and Jeff Hardy but had wrestlers on the same card as those guys needing to take a second job selling sunglasses in the mall. |
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Post by powerfred3k on Jun 28, 2015 19:23:40 GMT -5
Many wrestlers need second jobs to make ends meet. That isn't exclusive to TNA. There has never been another full-time national federation that employed stars like Hulk Hogan, Sting and Jeff Hardy but had wrestlers on the same card as those guys needing to take a second job selling sunglasses in the mall. Seriously its been documented that the undercard gets paid dog crap. A perfect example is Matt Morgan and Jesse Neal, both talent and tried to work there way up but in there is no up in TNA because angle, hardy, sting where holding those spots along with a few others. There entire under-card can and does find work elsewhere, so a handful of main event guys in tna which most wwe does not want. TNA could go under tomorrow and it would be ok. I am hoping Jarret's GFW can fill that possible void... |
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jun 28, 2015 20:15:57 GMT -5
Many wrestlers need second jobs to make ends meet. That isn't exclusive to TNA. There has never been another full-time national federation that employed stars like Hulk Hogan, Sting and Jeff Hardy but had wrestlers on the same card as those guys needing to take a second job selling sunglasses in the mall. Ok.. what's your point? We seem to be arguing the same side of the issue here. |
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Post by powerfred3k on Jun 28, 2015 20:40:02 GMT -5
There has never been another full-time national federation that employed stars like Hulk Hogan, Sting and Jeff Hardy but had wrestlers on the same card as those guys needing to take a second job selling sunglasses in the mall. Ok.. what's your point? We seem to be arguing the same side of the issue here. I don't know and maybe that's my point. TNA makes no sense to me, they just seem destined to fail... |
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jun 28, 2015 21:16:18 GMT -5
Ok.. what's your point? We seem to be arguing the same side of the issue here. I don't know and maybe that's my point. TNA makes no sense to me, they just seem destined to fail... That's what makes me so angry sent this. They SHOULD have succeeded. Since it's inception as NWA-TNA, they've consistently had one of the best rosters on the planet. They had several years where they were light years ahead of WWE. And somehow they've managed to piss away every opportunity they've ever had. |
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