koreygunz
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Post by koreygunz on Jul 8, 2015 20:55:22 GMT -5
I decided I was going to try and watch all the WCW PPVs from Bash at the Beach 96 (formation of the nwo) and hopefully end at Starrcade 1997. Halloween Havoc 1996 was the first PPV I ever ordered, and I didnt have cable at the time so I couldnt really follow Nitro. Ive watched Hog Wild 1996 and halfway thru Fall Brawl and I had a few questions.
1. If the idea was that the nwo were "outsiders," what was the reasoning given for giving Hogan a WCW Title shot at Hog Wild? Why would WCW willingly give him a title shot if he was part of a renegade organization?
2. I noticed that Randy Savage didnt wrestle at Hog Wild, but he faced the Giant at Fall Brawl, and the commentators are already discussing his match with Hogan at Halloween Havoc. How far in advance was it announced that Savage would face Hogan for the title, and why was that match made almost two months in advance?
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jul 8, 2015 23:46:18 GMT -5
I wanna say Hulk Hogan had a rematch set up with the WCW Champion, so it just happened to happen now that he was in the NWO. Hogan wasn't appearing on TV for like a few months, I wanna say after Uncensored in March he kind of drifted off TV and PPV until Bash at the Beach. But I am sure he had a title rematch set but it never happened so they had it happen at Hog Wild 96.
Savage vs. Hogan was first talked about AT Fall Brawl I wanna say. If not then at least at the Nitro before hand. But I do heavily remember the commentators talking about Savage vs. Hogan at Halloween Havoc for the WCW Title. Which is why my friends and I thought Savage would beat The Giant going into Halloween Havoc but nope.... we were wrong on that one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 7:24:10 GMT -5
I decided I was going to try and watch all the WCW PPVs from Bash at the Beach 96 (formation of the nwo) and hopefully end at Starrcade 1997. Halloween Havoc 1996 was the first PPV I ever ordered, and I didnt have cable at the time so I couldnt really follow Nitro. Ive watched Hog Wild 1996 and halfway thru Fall Brawl and I had a few questions. 1. If the idea was that the nwo were "outsiders," what was the reasoning given for giving Hogan a WCW Title shot at Hog Wild? Why would WCW willingly give him a title shot if he was part of a renegade organization? 2. I noticed that Randy Savage didnt wrestle at Hog Wild, but he faced the Giant at Fall Brawl, and the commentators are already discussing his match with Hogan at Halloween Havoc. How far in advance was it announced that Savage would face Hogan for the title, and why was that match made almost two months in advance? Let me ask you a question: When did WCW booking ever make any sense? I love WCW, but you can't deny that the booking was pretty terrible from late '95 onwards. They only really started to turn things around in 2001, but by then, the writing was already on the wall for them. |
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robbutler01
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Post by robbutler01 on Jul 11, 2015 12:30:37 GMT -5
I decided I was going to try and watch all the WCW PPVs from Bash at the Beach 96 (formation of the nwo) and hopefully end at Starrcade 1997. Halloween Havoc 1996 was the first PPV I ever ordered, and I didnt have cable at the time so I couldnt really follow Nitro. Ive watched Hog Wild 1996 and halfway thru Fall Brawl and I had a few questions. 1. If the idea was that the nwo were "outsiders," what was the reasoning given for giving Hogan a WCW Title shot at Hog Wild? Why would WCW willingly give him a title shot if he was part of a renegade organization? 2. I noticed that Randy Savage didnt wrestle at Hog Wild, but he faced the Giant at Fall Brawl, and the commentators are already discussing his match with Hogan at Halloween Havoc. How far in advance was it announced that Savage would face Hogan for the title, and why was that match made almost two months in advance? Let me ask you a question: When did WCW booking ever make any sense? I love WCW, but you can't deny that the booking was pretty terrible from late '95 onwards. They only really started to turn things around in 2001, but by then, the writing was already on the wall for them. Um "booking was terrible from late 95"  Now WCW had a lot of booking issues before and after 95 but considering they beat WWF for 84 straight weeks and became basically the no 1 promotion in the US I cant agree with that statement. I notice you are 20yr old (and while you have some good point and posts) as someone who is late 30's and watched it all happen at the time I can say that it was no where near as bad as you put it. 96 onwards was some of the best booking they did..... well sometimes - NWO, bringing in the big names, the cruiserweights etc and generating millions of dollars in the process. Yes they relied on the same old names and stuff for too long but that's another story for another thread as we all know. Funnily enough you state that they "turned it around in 2001"? - no they went out of business in 01 and that was when it reeked of desperation - they brought back Animal as the surprise man for crying out load, dustin/dusty v's flair/jarrett, and other booking screw ups to many to mention. Like I usually say everyone is entitled to their opinion but I don't agree with you completely on this one i'm afraid |
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Post by Nivro™ on Jul 11, 2015 12:44:37 GMT -5
WCW's booking wasnt that bad until Bischoff was taken out of power and it was a constant rotating door over who was in charge. Its hard to have continuity when the mastermind is changing all the time.
As for how Hogan got the title shot, he challenged Giant on an episode of Nitro a week or two after he turned at Bash at the Beach and The Giant accepted.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 17:10:15 GMT -5
Let me ask you a question: When did WCW booking ever make any sense? I love WCW, but you can't deny that the booking was pretty terrible from late '95 onwards. They only really started to turn things around in 2001, but by then, the writing was already on the wall for them. Um "booking was terrible from late 95" Now WCW had a lot of booking issues before and after 95 but considering they beat WWF for 84 straight weeks and became basically the no 1 promotion in the US I cant agree with that statement. I notice you are 20yr old (and while you have some good point and posts) as someone who is late 30's and watched it all happen at the time I can say that it was no where near as bad as you put it. 96 onwards was some of the best booking they did..... well sometimes - NWO, bringing in the big names, the cruiserweights etc and generating millions of dollars in the process. Yes they relied on the same old names and stuff for too long but that's another story for another thread as we all know. Funnily enough you state that they "turned it around in 2001"? - no they went out of business in 01 and that was when it reeked of desperation - they brought back Animal as the surprise man for crying out load, dustin/dusty v's flair/jarrett, and other booking screw ups to many to mention. Like I usually say everyone is entitled to their opinion but I don't agree with you completely on this one i'm afraid It might be because I'm watching it after the fact. If I'd been watching at the time, I might see it differently. I love WCW though, please don't get me wrong on that. |
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Post by JC Motors on Jul 11, 2015 21:57:25 GMT -5
I decided I was going to try and watch all the WCW PPVs from Bash at the Beach 96 (formation of the nwo) and hopefully end at Starrcade 1997. Halloween Havoc 1996 was the first PPV I ever ordered, and I didnt have cable at the time so I couldnt really follow Nitro. Ive watched Hog Wild 1996 and halfway thru Fall Brawl and I had a few questions. 1. If the idea was that the nwo were "outsiders," what was the reasoning given for giving Hogan a WCW Title shot at Hog Wild? Why would WCW willingly give him a title shot if he was part of a renegade organization? 2. I noticed that Randy Savage didnt wrestle at Hog Wild, but he faced the Giant at Fall Brawl, and the commentators are already discussing his match with Hogan at Halloween Havoc. How far in advance was it announced that Savage would face Hogan for the title, and why was that match made almost two months in advance? Let me ask you a question: When did WCW booking ever make any sense? I love WCW, but you can't deny that the booking was pretty terrible from late '95 onwards. They only really started to turn things around in 2001, but by then, the writing was already on the wall for them. WCW Booking never made any sense |
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Post by robbutler01 on Jul 12, 2015 2:53:41 GMT -5
Let me ask you a question: When did WCW booking ever make any sense? I love WCW, but you can't deny that the booking was pretty terrible from late '95 onwards. They only really started to turn things around in 2001, but by then, the writing was already on the wall for them. WCW Booking never made any sense Well that's a great argument for your point there? So it doesn't make sense that Hall and Nash were treated badly in their first run and then returned as "outsiders" to take over and hooked up with Hogan who wasn't accepted by the WCW fans so eventually turned on them? It doesn't makes sense that Stings "friends" didn't trust him so he turned his back on them and became the crow character? Yea ok, if you say so! I am a WWF/E fan and have been since the late 80's but I can fully accept that WCW while it had faults knocked it out of the park during this period. And if we're on the subject of booking not making sense - Vince as the greater power, Rikishi ran down stone cold, Cena get beating down one day to return with no effects of it the next, pretty much everything TNA does, etc. Bad booking is everywhere in wrestling not just WCW! |
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