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Post by The Gang on Jul 17, 2015 5:14:19 GMT -5
First I want to thank Bill for taking the time to answer our questions as he does even as busy as he is. 2 things struck me, one that he reads all the comments here and checks these forums daily and 2, that the HOF Target line is doing so well.
So Bill I know you're reading this! With the HOF line doing so well, don't you think it's time to get more Flashbacks out to us? Maybe Elite Flashbacks can become a line of their own with their own waves of 5 or 6 figures. It's time to expand the Flashbacks line, they would sell!
I know that idea will upset some but I'm not trying to take any current figures away, this would actually allow for even more since Flashbacks will be out of the Elite line.
While I have your attention Bill, these figures need to get Elite Flashback treatment!
Big John Studd (HOF line?)
Sid
Warlord
Barbarian
One Man Gang
Thank you Bill and keep up the great work!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 5:25:05 GMT -5
It's a great idea, but, the legends line failed already for some reason
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Post by LD8506 on Jul 17, 2015 5:25:20 GMT -5
I'm sure they would sell but I wouldn't want a flashback wave by it self and then kids wouldn't buy any of it. You have to consider that Mattel caters not only to us collectors but to kids aswell. That's one of the reasons why the legends line wasn't successful. It wouldn't make sense for Mattel to do that. That's why they always have the Ortons and the Cena's in every two or three elite waves. I want this line to continue as long as possible. Who wouldn't want all the Legends. Just be patient. I'm sure Bill and his MDT will deliver.
Thank you Bill! Amazing Job with the WWE line.
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Post by The Gang on Jul 17, 2015 5:30:35 GMT -5
It's a great idea, but, the legends line failed already for some reason Thanks, yes the legends line failed big but that was a different time and there were many reasons it failed and Mattel has come a long way and I do believe that it's time to give legends another chance through the Flashback line. I think that the huge success of the HOF shows that it might just work this time. |
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Post by The Gang on Jul 17, 2015 5:33:58 GMT -5
I'm sure they would sell but I wouldn't want a flashback wave by it self and then kids wouldn't buy any of it. You have to consider that Mattel caters not only to us collectors but to kids aswell. That's one of the reasons why the legends line wasn't successful. It wouldn't make sense for Mattel to do that. That's why they always have the Ortons and the Cena's in every two or three elite waves. I want this line to continue as long as possible. Who wouldn't want all the Legends. Just be patient. I'm sure Bill and his MDT will deliver. Thank you Bill! Amazing Job with the WWE line. Good points for sure but I do believe that Flashbacks line would sell now. You're exactly right that the Orton's and Cena's help keep the Elite line going. Well in Flashbacks line, Hogan, Warrior, Savage, Bret, Sting, Stone Cold and others would help the Flashbacks line the same way. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 5:40:35 GMT -5
But it's weird, as looking back those legends series' were some of the best figures Mattel made, I just don't think enough people buy legends, not enough in matters eyes for their own line anyway
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Post by PJ on Jul 17, 2015 5:43:45 GMT -5
It wouldn't work. It would be to much product on the shelves competing with each other for sales. Especially at $20 a pop. The only way that would work is if it was replacing the elite line which would be foolish. Maybe do more Elite 23 waves a year. Have 3-4 waves of mainly modern guys and the other 2-3 waves mainly FB sets. But a whole new line competing with elites, DM, HOF, Basics and BP won't work.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 5:47:27 GMT -5
It wouldn't work. It would be to much product on the shelves competing with each other for sales. Especially at $20 a pop. The only way that would work is if it was replacing the elite line which would be foolish. Maybe do more Elite 23 waves a year. Have 3-4 waves of mainly modern guys and the other 2-3 waves mainly FB sets. But a whole new line competing with elites, DM, HOF, Basics and BP won't work. If they more elite waves there would need to be less figures in each one, I would be shocked if any store sold every single figure they ordered |
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Post by Boy Wonder on Jul 17, 2015 5:47:46 GMT -5
I think between HOF, Flashbacks, DMs, and RSC exclusives we're getting plenty of new figures.
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Post by PJ on Jul 17, 2015 5:55:32 GMT -5
It wouldn't work. It would be to much product on the shelves competing with each other for sales. Especially at $20 a pop. The only way that would work is if it was replacing the elite line which would be foolish. Maybe do more Elite 23 waves a year. Have 3-4 waves of mainly modern guys and the other 2-3 waves mainly FB sets. But a whole new line competing with elites, DM, HOF, Basics and BP won't work. If they more elite waves there would need to be less figures in each one, I would be shocked if any store sold every single figure they ordered No it wouldn't work with more. But I am saying Elites have six waves a year. (Not including all the exclusives sets) if 3-4 of those waves were modern guys and the other 2-3 were FB (depending on how Mattel wanted to do the split 3/3 or 4/2) that would work. But to keep 6 waves of modern Elites and then add another 6 waves of FB a year would just hurt both lines sales enough to possibly have both lines cancelled. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Jul 17, 2015 6:00:28 GMT -5
I don't know... it seems like we've been through all this before - Bill always says that the current method is working really well, so why change things? With a Flashback-only line and the Elite line, people/kids/parents would be a lot more selective - especially at these prices - and they'd probably be quite a few figures that would shelf-warm/wouldn't sell as well (which could damage the line or cause stores to slow/stop their orders). Besides, at the moment we have a (Legends-type) HOF series, Flashbacks, Defining Moments figures - plus the RSC/various exclusives... we're actually getting more Legends/Flashback figures than ever.  |
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Post by Mongo Bears on Jul 17, 2015 6:00:57 GMT -5
I would just like more multi flashback elite sets.
I mean....I'd love as much flashbacks as possible but realisticly two in every elite series would be nice
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Post by The Gang on Jul 17, 2015 6:01:56 GMT -5
It wouldn't work. It would be to much product on the shelves competing with each other for sales. Especially at $20 a pop. The only way that would work is if it was replacing the elite line which would be foolish. Maybe do more Elite 23 waves a year. Have 3-4 waves of mainly modern guys and the other 2-3 waves mainly FB sets. But a whole new line competing with elites, DM, HOF, Basics and BP won't work. I hear what you're saying but I don't see the lines competing with each other in the sense that you'll have 2 different collectors buying, I don't buy any current elites for example and many don't buy the flashbacks. |
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Post by The Gang on Jul 17, 2015 6:06:36 GMT -5
I don't know... it seems like we've been through all this before - Bill always says that the current method is working really well, so why change things? With a Flashback-only line and the Elite line, people/kids/parents would be a lot more selective - especially at these prices - and they'd probably be quite a few figures that would shelf-warm/wouldn't sell as well (which could damage the line or cause stores to slow/stop their orders). Besides, at the moment we have a (Legends-type) HOF series, Flashbacks, Defining Moments figures - plus the RSC/various exclusives... we're actually getting more Legends/Flashback figures than ever. Yes we've definitely been through all this before but my thinking is that with the huge success of the HOF line that maybe it's time to try and get even more Flashbacks out, there are so many legends that need a figure plus many that deserve repaints. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 6:16:58 GMT -5
It wouldn't work, otherwise Bill would be doing it. You know he would.
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Post by PJ on Jul 17, 2015 6:20:46 GMT -5
It wouldn't work. It would be to much product on the shelves competing with each other for sales. Especially at $20 a pop. The only way that would work is if it was replacing the elite line which would be foolish. Maybe do more Elite 23 waves a year. Have 3-4 waves of mainly modern guys and the other 2-3 waves mainly FB sets. But a whole new line competing with elites, DM, HOF, Basics and BP won't work. I hear what you're saying but I don't see the lines competing with each other in the sense that you'll have 2 different collectors buying, I don't buy any current elites for example and many don't buy the flashbacks. With it now we have 6 new elites every other month and of that we have the average fan/kids targeted for 4/5 figures in the elite line and collectors 2+ figures depending on if they are FB only, Modern collectors or completists. Now you want to add a FB line to the shelves. So now that's 12 wrestlers every other month opposed to 6. With half now being FB's. Where are the sales coming from? I'm sure at $20+ a pop completists will have a hard time buying 12 figures every other month and FB collectors might have a hard time buying 6 figures every other month. Thus sales would be done for both lines because people can't keep up with the amount of figures coming out. |
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Post by LD8506 on Jul 17, 2015 7:04:09 GMT -5
It wouldn't work, otherwise Bill would be doing it. You know he would. I agree with you. Whatever Mattel is doing is great. I have no complains. I love the idea that they packed the HOF series 2 figures ratio perfectly. MDT doesn't need to change anything. |
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Post by LD8506 on Jul 17, 2015 7:09:18 GMT -5
I don't know... it seems like we've been through all this before - Bill always says that the current method is working really well, so why change things? With a Flashback-only line and the Elite line, people/kids/parents would be a lot more selective - especially at these prices - and they'd probably be quite a few figures that would shelf-warm/wouldn't sell as well (which could damage the line or cause stores to slow/stop their orders). Besides, at the moment we have a (Legends-type) HOF series, Flashbacks, Defining Moments figures - plus the RSC/various exclusives... we're actually getting more Legends/Flashback figures than ever. Yes we've definitely been through all this before but my thinking is that with the huge success of the HOF line that maybe it's time to try and get even more Flashbacks out, there are so many legends that need a figure plus many that deserve repaints. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Let Bill do his thing. He has a plan. We just need to be patient. |
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Post by Sizzle on Jul 17, 2015 7:54:13 GMT -5
Why can't you just be satisfied with Flashbacks in the regular elite line? The Legends line went kaput and that's why we won't get a separate line. I am alright with Elite Flashbacks, and I don't want to have to spend even more money on figures other than the Elite/Basics/HOF/etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 9:37:59 GMT -5
All I want to see is a classic hulk hogan in legends packaging. Whether it's an exclusive or whatever. That legends packaging was awesome and he would look nice next to my l5 moc savage and l6 moc warrior
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