Daniel F'n Bryan
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Jul 19, 2015 23:53:00 GMT -5
So, I figured this would be a cool discussion thread to tell basically anything in WWE (Gimmicks, PPVs, etc.) that have been Modified that once was better.
• Money In The Bank : This concept was once incredible. A great energetic match that kicked off the Grandest Stage of them all! But it got turned into a Pay Per View. Not necessary by any means.
•Armageddon, Judgement Day, and Backlash. : All great PPVs that were around for years and suddenly just got cancelled. They felt like they meant something rather than a PPV like Capitol friggen Punishment...
•TLC : An awesome, intense, extreme match that was only shown at mostly an important PPV once a year. I dislike the idea so much of it becoming a PPV like MITB...
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jul 20, 2015 0:01:48 GMT -5
Any of those specialty matches that have become an event need to stop.
MITB, Elimination Chamber, TLC, Hell In A Cell, it's ridiculous.
At one time a HIAC match was meant for 2 guys who hated each other and had a huge feud and needed to settle it in there. Now you know, every October there is gonna be 2 HIAC matches cause it's gonna be at the HIAC PPV. So they just go with the current feuds at the moment to put in the Cell.
But in an era of PG where there is no blood or real violence I guess it really doesn't matter does it??
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Jul 20, 2015 0:04:35 GMT -5
Many gimmick matches that had become their own PPVs (Elimination Chamber, Money In The Bank, Hell In A Cell, TLC etc) had been ruined in my opinion. I miss when Hell in a Cell was pretty much a last resort for a major rivalry and not just 2 lazily built up matches for an October PPV. I just think the gimmick PPVs for the past few years give the matches very little meaning compared to before.
I also agree with you about Money in the Bank too, I miss that taking place at WrestleMania.
*EDIT* lol hbkbigdaddycool had basically said what I wanted to as I typed it out!
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Mr Wrestling Jr.
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Post by Mr Wrestling Jr. on Jul 20, 2015 0:08:14 GMT -5
WWE bringing back old PPV names isn't going to change anything. They could bring back Armageddon and decide Armageddon is where we have a Chairs Match, Tables Match, Ladder Match, TLC Match AND A Steel Cage Match. Hell In A Cell should go away, no HIAC matches for at least a year. Elimination Chamber only if necessary. Money In The Bank I'd have take place at SummerSlam, since Mania has the battle royal. I'd have King of the Ring return as a full on PPV Tournament, WWE could really give meaning to Main Event for that. I'd bring back the Women's Championship. Being labelled a "Diva" is not something to be proud of, a diva is someone like Kardashian. Untalented, selfish, ignorant  ing moron. I don't believe Nikki Bella is even close to that, she appears aware of other people existing in the world. |
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Jul 20, 2015 0:25:23 GMT -5
Armageddon, No Mery, Backlash, Judgement Day, no point in bringing any of them "back" its just a name with no gimmick, seeing as the stage only gets special treatment for Mania its not even as though they have a "signature look" anymore.
I dont have a problem with gimmick PPV's MITB was good on early at Mania when it was the young guys getting something out of it, but now its usually more established names (& Kofi Kingston) so really does deserve its own PPV
I wouldnt mind seeing HIAC replaced with Rage in the Cage or something, I can get down with Cage matches but the Cell should always be for those special feuds and a rarity
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Post by Matt on Jul 20, 2015 2:22:35 GMT -5
Also bring back 2 hour Raws!
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RV F'N D
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Post by RV F'N D on Jul 20, 2015 9:09:00 GMT -5
Bring back the brand split and the draft...and Raw back to 2 hours.
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Post by T R W on Jul 20, 2015 9:12:21 GMT -5
I don't care what the name of a PPV is to be honest, but I do agree that the gimmick themed PPVs are lame and need to go.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 9:18:02 GMT -5
I think they should bring back Halloween Havoc.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 9:21:30 GMT -5
MITB, HIAC and EC are the ones that spring to mind.
Take a look back at the very first match of each type, and you'll see just how pointless they are now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 9:22:50 GMT -5
Bring back the Ice cream bars!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 9:39:12 GMT -5
Bring back the Ice cream bars! LOL at Benoit being on the box! |
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Post by k5 on Jul 20, 2015 12:36:30 GMT -5
the hell in a cell honestly should just be put to rest. bring it back in 10 years or something.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2015 18:34:05 GMT -5
I do agree, it is stupid by WWE. They're essentially forcing these gimmick PPV's and giving away matches that aren't even needed. Sure It's great to see these matches, but the feud needs to warrent a certain stipulation for it to mean something special.
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Post by TheNinthCloud on Jul 21, 2015 18:45:27 GMT -5
What is the point of gimmick PPVs anyway? Do they sell more tickets knowing that the HIAC will be there or something?
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jakksking1
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Post by jakksking1 on Jul 21, 2015 18:50:41 GMT -5
Hardcore title, or make a title that is defended 24/7. That was endless fun and got everyone involved in the roster
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Post by Danger10 on Jul 21, 2015 19:06:12 GMT -5
-War Games - I love these matches to this day. It would be awesome to see this return.
-Survivor Series - I love that all the matches used to be Survivor Series Elimination matches and I wish they would go back to it being that way.
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Post by McBlake on Jul 21, 2015 19:53:57 GMT -5
Any of those specialty matches that have become an event need to stop. MITB, Elimination Chamber, TLC, Hell In A Cell, it's ridiculous. At one time a HIAC match was meant for 2 guys who hated each other and had a huge feud and needed to settle it in there. Now you know, every October there is gonna be 2 HIAC matches cause it's gonna be at the HIAC PPV. So they just go with the current feuds at the moment to put in the Cell. But in an era of PG where there is no blood or real violence I guess it really doesn't matter does it?? I agree with all of this... Except scrapping the TLC PPV. It's not a huge feud ender of a match and results in 4 different tame gimmick matches which can be fun. They also have a choice of which match type for each feud to make it appropriate depending on the storylines. TLC has never honestly bothered me. |
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Post by Triple S: POOR on Jul 21, 2015 20:34:34 GMT -5
The return of the brand split, two-hour RAWs and (possibly) the Cruiserweight Championship.
I say possibly, solely because it may hinder guys like Neville, Kidd, etc. Putting them in that division would most likely prevent them from reaching a main event level spot.
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Post by Kanenite on Jul 21, 2015 20:36:05 GMT -5
- Old (and new) PPV Names and occasional use of Coloured ropes depending on the colour scheme of the event (I know this doesn't effect the product really, but just from a production standpoint I'd like for the events to feel different again).
- Go back to only having the Rumble and Survivor Series as gimmick PPVs.
- Hardcore Championship. I know they can't hit each other with chairs in the head, but it could still be a stupid but fun title that the lower card guys could do fun segments with over any show (including all the Network non-wrestling shows). They could even have a twitter feed for it, and update it with random un-televised title switches with ridiculous scenarios, even if it never actually happened in reality.
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