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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 15:27:06 GMT -5
It's a little hard to defend someone as not being a racist when they say, "I'm a little racist" and go on a racial tirade. And the Vince thing from Survivor Series a decade ago can't be compared. He didn't use it in the same manner as Hogan, and on top of that, was playing a character. Context is everything there. WWE handled everything just as they should have. Keeping ties to him would have been a horrendous business move. I find it easy to defend Hogan as not being a racist because the evidence that he is not a racist is so overwhelming. The hard part is getting people who want to believe he is a racist to admit they know in their heart he is not one. #Hogan's Life Matters
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 15:27:56 GMT -5
I think Bill O'Reilly made a WF account guys I bet you've never seen an episode of Bill O'Reilly.
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Post by Yayo on Jul 25, 2015 15:28:37 GMT -5
I think Bill O'Reilly made a WF account guys I bet you've never seen an episode of Bill O'Reilly. I bet you've seen an awful lot of them
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 15:30:49 GMT -5
I bet you've never seen an episode of Bill O'Reilly. I bet you've seen an awful lot of them I find him to be too much of an out of touch old guy to watch with any type of regularity.
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Post by Yayo on Jul 25, 2015 15:32:29 GMT -5
I bet you've seen an awful lot of them I find him to be too much of an out of touch old guy to watch with any type of regularity. You a Rush Limbaugh kinda guy?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 15:40:56 GMT -5
I find him to be too much of an out of touch old guy to watch with any type of regularity. You a Rush Limbaugh kinda guy? What difference does it make? Saying I was or I wasn't wouldn't mean much to you since you probably don't listen to either one of them. My guess is, and this is just a guess, you've probably heard what kind of guys Rush and Bill are from a show like the Daily Show and have a preconceived notion of what they're all about without actually watching them yourself. You're now trying to apply those preconceived notions to me. It's like a code. This guy is Bill O'Reilly or Rush, meaning he embodies these preconceived notions we have about republicans without actually trying to engage them in any type of civil debate or even listen to what it is they have to say.
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Post by futureisrollins on Jul 25, 2015 15:43:09 GMT -5
If the media and most everyone in this society would get out of everyone else's business, we wouldn't have issues like this.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 15:43:01 GMT -5
@gucci
To answer your question, no, I don't listen to Rush. I have to go to work everyday and he's on while I'm at work.
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Post by Yayo on Jul 25, 2015 15:50:28 GMT -5
You a Rush Limbaugh kinda guy? What difference does it make? Saying I was or I wasn't wouldn't mean much to you since you probably don't listen to either one of them. My guess is, and this is just a guess, you've probably heard what kind of guys Rush and Bill are from a show like the Daily Show and have a preconceived notion of what they're all about without actually watching them yourself. You're now trying to apply those preconceived notions to me. It's like a code. This guy is Bill O'Reilly or Rush, meaning he embodies these preconceived notions we have about republicans without actually trying to engage them in any type of civil debate or even listen to what it is they have to say. You got me, Brother. #Hulkhogan'slifematters, Brother Keep fighting the good fight, Dude. HH
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 15:55:38 GMT -5
What difference does it make? Saying I was or I wasn't wouldn't mean much to you since you probably don't listen to either one of them. My guess is, and this is just a guess, you've probably heard what kind of guys Rush and Bill are from a show like the Daily Show and have a preconceived notion of what they're all about without actually watching them yourself. You're now trying to apply those preconceived notions to me. It's like a code. This guy is Bill O'Reilly or Rush, meaning he embodies these preconceived notions we have about republicans without actually trying to engage them in any type of civil debate or even listen to what it is they have to say. You are going around, re-appropriating a chant (#blacklivesmatter) used to raise awareness of innocent black men losing their lives to police officers, in order to say Hulk Hogan should get his job back. You have gotta be ... You know what, never mind. You're really not worth getting banned over. I'm done with your ridiculously conservative arguments and defending known racists because the WHITE media is going on a witch-hunt trying to keep the white man down. You're absolutely clueless I think you may have been mislead by whatever news source you use to get your news from because the majority of deaths that spawned #blacklivesmatter weren't of innocent men. That said, just so you know, #blacklivesmatter is about mobilizing a disenfranchised base in time for next year's election. It's the same thing as the Occupy movement. Trick people into thinking there's a problem so they vote democrat. Also, I'd appreciate it if you didn't attack me personally. If you can't debate me using counterpoints then please just ignore me. I wouldn't want you to get banned either. #Hogan's Life Matters
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 16:06:25 GMT -5
You are going around, re-appropriating a chant (#blacklivesmatter) used to raise awareness of innocent black men losing their lives to police officers, in order to say Hulk Hogan should get his job back. You have gotta be ... You know what, never mind. You're really not worth getting banned over. I'm done with your ridiculously conservative arguments and defending known racists because the WHITE media is going on a witch-hunt trying to keep the white man down. You're absolutely clueless I think you may have been mislead by whatever news source you use to get your news from because the majority of deaths that spawned #blacklivesmatter weren't of innocent men. That said, just so you know, #blacklivesmatter is about mobilizing a disenfranchised base in time for next year's election. It's the same thing as the Occupy movement. Trick people into thinking there's a problem so they vote democrat. Also, I'd appreciate it if you didn't attack me personally. If you can't debate me using counterpoints then please just ignore me. I wouldn't want you to get banned either. #Hogan's Life Matters HOGANS LIFE IS NOT IN ING JEOPARDY. STOP THE ING HASHTAG.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 16:08:48 GMT -5
I think you may have been mislead by whatever news source you use to get your news from because the majority of deaths that spawned #blacklivesmatter weren't of innocent men. That said, just so you know, #blacklivesmatter is about mobilizing a disenfranchised base in time for next year's election. It's the same thing as the Occupy movement. Trick people into thinking there's a problem so they vote democrat. Also, I'd appreciate it if you didn't attack me personally. If you can't debate me using counterpoints then please just ignore me. I wouldn't want you to get banned either. #Hogan's Life Matters HOGANS LIFE IS NOT IN ING JEOPARDY. STOP THE ING HASHTAG. Relax. Why are you getting so heated?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 16:10:28 GMT -5
HOGANS LIFE IS NOT IN ING JEOPARDY. STOP THE ING HASHTAG. Relax. Why are you getting so heated? Because it's intellectually- disabled and annoying. You're acting like the man is dead with that hashtag, Hogan made a dumb mistake, and he paid for it.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jul 25, 2015 16:18:07 GMT -5
I really feel like this thread has run its course. The topic has been covered and we're no longer even on topic any more.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jul 25, 2015 16:18:08 GMT -5
Relax. Why are you getting so heated? Because it's intellectually- disabled and annoying. You're acting like the man is dead with that hashtag, Hogan made a dumb mistake, and he paid for it. Just leave it alone man.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 16:18:49 GMT -5
Relax. Why are you getting so heated? Because it's intellectually- disabled and annoying. You're acting like the man is dead with that hashtag, Hogan made a dumb mistake, and he paid for it. If it annoys you then maybe it's time to step away from the computer screen and get some fresh air or just ignore me. Saying I'm "intellectually disabled" isn't doing anyone any favors. Hogan's career and legacy is dead in a way because of what happened. WWE gave him the Benoit treatment. He's being labeled a racist when the only mistake he made was trusting a woman. The # is a joke. Try to relax. You can't take the Internet so seriously. It's supposed to be fun. Try to take it easy if you can.
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Post by Starscream on Jul 25, 2015 16:36:04 GMT -5
He made a huge mistake and clearly Hogan was screwed by Bubba(if I have my facts right) and his wife (literally). I want to defend him but is just so hard with the things he said, he was upset about his daughter, right? I can only say that when someone you truly love is doing things that in your mind are wrong, then your anger and even impotence makes you say the most stupid crap, really stupid crap. Hopefully he gets his s### together and hopefully he is ok, he will have to live with this stigma for the rest of his life because nobody will forget about this.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Jul 25, 2015 16:49:55 GMT -5
It's a little hard to defend someone as not being a racist when they say, "I'm a little racist" and go on a racial tirade. And the Vince thing from Survivor Series a decade ago can't be compared. He didn't use it in the same manner as Hogan, and on top of that, was playing a character. Context is everything there. WWE handled everything just as they should have. Keeping ties to him would have been a horrendous business move. I find it easy to defend Hogan as not being a racist because the evidence that he is not a racist is so overwhelming. The hard part is getting people who want to believe he is a racist to admit they know in their heart he is not one. #Hogan's Life Matters Just because someone doesn't appear in the public eye as a racist doesn't mean they aren't. IIRC, KKK members fully conceal their identity with robes and hoods. Hogan even directly states he is a racist. I get it, it is a hard thing to comprehend, Chris Benoit was my favorite wrestler. If Hogan really weants this to go away, he'll start doing promotional/charity work instead of pointing the finger at Vince for using the word in a different context (which I am not trying to justify).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 16:54:39 GMT -5
I find it easy to defend Hogan as not being a racist because the evidence that he is not a racist is so overwhelming. The hard part is getting people who want to believe he is a racist to admit they know in their heart he is not one. #Hogan's Life Matters Just because someone doesn't appear in the public eye as racist doesn't mean they aren't. IIRC, KKK members fully conceal their identity with robes and hoods. Hogan even directly states he is a racist. I get it, it is a hard thing to comprehend, Chris Benoit was my favorite wrestler. If Hogan really weants this to go away, he'll start doing promotional/charity work instead of pointing the finger at Vince for using the word in a different context (which I am not trying to justify). He doesn't directly state he's a racist though. Comparing Hogan to a closeted KKK member is a bit of a stretch as well. Hogan also has a lifetime of charity work under his belt, but I guess none of that matters now. The fact is, the evidence against Hogan being a racist is so overwhelming I'm forced to conclude that some people simply need to believe he is one in order to justify their own distorted world view.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jul 25, 2015 16:56:37 GMT -5
I find it easy to defend Hogan as not being a racist because the evidence that he is not a racist is so overwhelming. The hard part is getting people who want to believe he is a racist to admit they know in their heart he is not one. #Hogan's Life Matters Just because someone doesn't appear in the public eye as a racist doesn't mean they aren't. IIRC, KKK members fully conceal their identity with robes and hoods. Hogan even directly states he is a racist. I get it, it is a hard thing to comprehend, Chris Benoit was my favorite wrestler. If Hogan really weants this to go away, he'll start doing promotional/charity work instead of pointing the finger at Vince for using the word in a different context (which I am not trying to justify). I might have missed it but I havent seen Hogan pointing the finger at Vince or anyone else over this. I think its more the fan base. To be fair though, I think Hogan was 100% correct in what he said. Everyone is a little bit racist. Everyone in their life time has said, done or thought something that is racist. I find there to be a huge difference in the verbal use of racism and the physical use of racism. We've gotten to the point where we are punishing people for making a mistake to the point where its as if they physically harmed someone. If the video showed Hogan beating a black guy with a bat and calling him racial names, Id have no use for him. However he did something that every other human has done before and made a mistake the only difference is he got caught. There really is nothing more he can do then apologize and move on to improve himself and relationships with others.
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