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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 6, 2015 20:24:34 GMT -5
Just a cool video I found on youtube putting interviews and WCW promos together. The Hogan/Nash feud is well documented but this video puts a few different perspectives together and some of the stories are interesting. Some of the moments that stick out to me..
- Totally forgot about Nash shooting on live TV asking Hogan and Eric why Waltman was fired
- Nash and Konnan on Hogan saying "4 Life" too fast was hilarious
- Nash gaining points with Hogan and squashing a Benoit push at the same time is typical WCW
- Nash totally owned Hogan at 16:30 when they were shooting on each other on live TV
- While Waltman did good for himself going back to the WWF, it would have been interesting seeing him, Hall, and Nash as the Wolfpac as origionally planned
- Hall's story about Nash threatening Bischoff to get them fired shows how f'ed up the environment was even as early as '97
This channel has some other feud videos that are also pretty good and worth a watch.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 6, 2015 23:10:02 GMT -5
I am probably the biggest Kevin Nash fan on this forum, and I loved everything he says - or has said - in his little WCW snide shoot remarks over the years he was there.
Say what you want about Nash, the guy has the brains to be in the wrestling business. Not as a wrestler mind you, but as a business man. Much love and respect for Big Daddy Cool!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2015 23:17:06 GMT -5
Nash's first major booking decision was to take the title off Big Billy.
Goldberg. The biggest draw WCW ever had.
Nash is one of the bigger reasons WCW died.
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Post by k5 on Aug 7, 2015 0:05:35 GMT -5
very interesting, i didn't know much on this topic. makes a lot of things make more sense though - like why the hell the nwo never collided with the wolfpac properly. or why scott hall and kevin nash seemed to just stop caring pretty early on. the inmates truly were running the asylum there. this video also doesn't paint hogan in a positive light whatsoever, but has the evidence to back it up along the way.
thanks for posting!
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 7, 2015 1:03:28 GMT -5
Nash's first major booking decision was to take the title off Big Billy. Goldberg. The biggest draw WCW ever had. Nash is one of the bigger reasons WCW died. Nash has said many times he wasn't the one in charge then to take the belt off Goldberg. He did however say he was in charge when he took the belt off DDP in 1999. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2015 5:37:50 GMT -5
Nash's first major booking decision was to take the title off Big Billy. Goldberg. The biggest draw WCW ever had. Nash is one of the bigger reasons WCW died. Nash made some big mistakes in WCW and held back a lot of talent (poor Wrath...) But I still love the guy. You can't not!! Also Sting was probably a bigger draw than Goldberg. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2015 5:39:17 GMT -5
Nash's first major booking decision was to take the title off Big Billy. Goldberg. The biggest draw WCW ever had. Nash is one of the bigger reasons WCW died. Nash made some big mistakes in WCW and held back a lot of talent (poor Wrath...) But I still love the guy. You can't not!! Also Sting was probably a bigger draw than Goldberg. I've read that Goldberg was the biggest draw WCW ever had. Nash made a LOT of mistakes. They're inexcusable. Same with Russo, Hogan, and Bischoff. I'm a Hogan fan, though. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2015 8:56:44 GMT -5
Nash's first major booking decision was to take the title off Big Billy. Goldberg. The biggest draw WCW ever had. Nash is one of the bigger reasons WCW died. Nash has said many times he wasn't the one in charge then to take the belt off Goldberg. He did however say he was in charge when he took the belt off DDP in 1999. Sorry man....I like Nash too BUT Nash was instrumental in taking the belt off Goldberg & sidelining Stings title reign. Since he is probably the joint first most prolific liar in the business I'm not inclined to believe a thing he says about his WCW time(let it be his departure from WWF or booking control in WCW). he has changed his story WAY too many times to be credible in the slightest. Hall has always been more honest and I believe him(slightly OT here) when he says the Wolfpac was meant to be WCWs version of the DX Army(which Nash confirmed). Plans for DX to go face and the Outlaws to join were in place BEFORE RR98.....Bischoff got wind and asked the other Kliq members what they thought. Wolfpac was meant to be Hall, Nash, Waltman, Konnan and Steiner. Hogan and Savage boo hooed because the Black/white looked like the older guys club.....so Steiner & Savage were swapped. |
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Post by Danger10 on Aug 7, 2015 19:56:19 GMT -5
Nash's first major booking decision was to take the title off Big Billy. Goldberg. The biggest draw WCW ever had. Nash is one of the bigger reasons WCW died. Nash was pretty over during the this time, go back and watch the ending of that match and listen to the crowd reaction when he wins. He said they wanted Bill to lose to move on from the streak before the streak overshadowed Bill himself. I believe that already happened, if Goldberg was truly over, then losing wouldn't have mattered. But because he lost almost all his momentum after that match I believe it was the streak that was over not Goldberg. As far as Nash being one of the reasons WCW died, can't really argue with that except WCW dug their own grave offering creative control. Scott Hall turning on Nash and joining nwo Hollywood never made any sense. I agree with the OP, it would have been awesome to see Hall, Nash, Waltman and as nwo wolfpac. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 7, 2015 22:15:26 GMT -5
Nash's first major booking decision was to take the title off Big Billy. Goldberg. The biggest draw WCW ever had. Nash is one of the bigger reasons WCW died. Nash was pretty over during the this time, go back and watch the ending of that match and listen to the crowd reaction when he wins. He said they wanted Bill to lose to move on from the streak before the streak overshadowed Bill himself. I believe that already happened, if Goldberg was truly over, then losing wouldn't have mattered. But because he lost almost all his momentum after that match I believe it was the streak that was over not Goldberg. As far as Nash being one of the reasons WCW died, can't really argue with that except WCW dug their own grave offering creative control. Scott Hall turning on Nash and joining nwo Hollywood never made any sense. I agree with the OP, it would have been awesome to see Hall, Nash, Waltman and as nwo wolfpac. I remember hearing that Hogan didn't want Hall leaving the "Black n' White" because the Wolfpac had all the "cool guys." I always thought it was funny seeing Nash, Luger, Macho, and Sting representing the Wolfpac while Hogan was walking around with guys like Scott Norton, Bryan Adams, Vincent, Stevie Ray, etc... |
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Post by Danger10 on Aug 7, 2015 23:12:10 GMT -5
Nash was pretty over during the this time, go back and watch the ending of that match and listen to the crowd reaction when he wins. He said they wanted Bill to lose to move on from the streak before the streak overshadowed Bill himself. I believe that already happened, if Goldberg was truly over, then losing wouldn't have mattered. But because he lost almost all his momentum after that match I believe it was the streak that was over not Goldberg. As far as Nash being one of the reasons WCW died, can't really argue with that except WCW dug their own grave offering creative control. Scott Hall turning on Nash and joining nwo Hollywood never made any sense. I agree with the OP, it would have been awesome to see Hall, Nash, Waltman and as nwo wolfpac. I remember hearing that Hogan didn't want Hall leaving the "Black n' White" because the Wolfpac had all the "cool guys." I always thought it was funny seeing Nash, Luger, Macho, and Sting representing the Wolfpac while Hogan was walking around with guys like Scott Norton, Bryan Adams, Vincent, Stevie Ray, etc... lol I barely realized this. Now I know why I always liked nwo Wolfpac way more. |
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Post by Himmy! on Aug 8, 2015 1:54:41 GMT -5
Nash's first major booking decision was to take the title off Big Billy. Goldberg. The biggest draw WCW ever had. Nash is one of the bigger reasons WCW died. Nash has said many times he wasn't the one in charge then to take the belt off Goldberg. He did however say he was in charge when he took the belt off DDP in 1999. I love Nash but it wouldn't be the first time he told a porky  . |
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Post by PJ on Aug 8, 2015 7:08:19 GMT -5
I felt that was a part of WCW downfall. Once they had two NWO groups it just wasn't nearly as good. They had to many people joint the first NWO then to split it into a second group made it even worse. But back to Nash I have seen interviews where he said he was involved with the Goldberg decision and interviews where he said he wasn't. But personally I do think he was.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 7:35:50 GMT -5
Nash was pretty over during the this time, go back and watch the ending of that match and listen to the crowd reaction when he wins. He said they wanted Bill to lose to move on from the streak before the streak overshadowed Bill himself. I believe that already happened, if Goldberg was truly over, then losing wouldn't have mattered. But because he lost almost all his momentum after that match I believe it was the streak that was over not Goldberg. As far as Nash being one of the reasons WCW died, can't really argue with that except WCW dug their own grave offering creative control. Scott Hall turning on Nash and joining nwo Hollywood never made any sense. I agree with the OP, it would have been awesome to see Hall, Nash, Waltman and as nwo wolfpac. I remember hearing that Hogan didn't want Hall leaving the "Black n' White" because the Wolfpac had all the "cool guys." I always thought it was funny seeing Nash, Luger, Macho, and Sting representing the Wolfpac while Hogan was walking around with guys like Scott Norton, Bryan Adams, Vincent, Stevie Ray, etc... Hogan AND Savage bitched......so Hall & Steiner were left with Black/White and Savage was sent with the Wolfpac. when plans started for this around February time The Wolfpac was gonna be Nash, Hall, Steiner, Hennig & Konnan. Loads of people say Bagwell was set to be Wolfpac on his return too..... Hogan and Savage bitched to Bischoff because they felt that Black/White was being edged out with all the older guys being left with them. I always question Steiners inclusion because the Wolfpac were to be faces.....so what would have became of the Rick feud? Not that anybody backstage would have really cared anyway.....the nWo split smothered EVERYTHING including Stings reign. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 7:36:51 GMT -5
Nash has said many times he wasn't the one in charge then to take the belt off Goldberg. He did however say he was in charge when he took the belt off DDP in 1999. I love Nash but it wouldn't be the first time he told a porky . Or the 2nd....3rd or 763rd time.....  |
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Post by Danger10 on Aug 8, 2015 10:41:02 GMT -5
I felt that was a part of WCW downfall. Once they had two NWO groups it just wasn't nearly as good. They had to many people joint the first NWO then to split it into a second group made it even worse. But back to Nash I have seen interviews where he said he was involved with the Goldberg decision and interviews where he said he wasn't. But personally I do think he was. Personally I didn't mind the split and if they would've actually feuded and ended with some sort of blow off it wouldn't have been so bad to me. But they just coexisted then reunited for no reason so I can see where other people might feel where this just watered down nwo even more. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 10:54:00 GMT -5
I am probably the biggest Kevin Nash fan on this forum, and I loved everything he says - or has said - in his little WCW snide shoot remarks over the years he was there. Say what you want about Nash, the guy has the brains to be in the wrestling business. Not as a wrestler mind you, but as a business man. Much love and respect for Big Daddy Cool!! Nash is very smart bloke, no one can take that away from him. When he was motivated enough, he wasn't that bad in the ring either. |
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Post by robbutler01 on Aug 8, 2015 13:21:17 GMT -5
I am probably the biggest Kevin Nash fan on this forum, and I loved everything he says - or has said - in his little WCW snide shoot remarks over the years he was there. Say what you want about Nash, the guy has the brains to be in the wrestling business. Not as a wrestler mind you, but as a business man. Much love and respect for Big Daddy Cool!! I'll always be a fan of Nash. Bottom line he went from someone with a snowballs chance in hell of making it (Master blaster, OZ!! etc) to one of the biggest and most game changing people in the business. For all the things people say about his in ring work (which I don't think was that bad with the right opponent)when it came to playing the game and talking there were few that matched up (he did own Hogan in that video!) |
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Post by Tom Baker's Scarf on Aug 9, 2015 12:04:15 GMT -5
Nash is a talentless piece of crap.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 13:14:36 GMT -5
Liked him as a kid. Grown to borderline despise him as an adult. I will buy his Mattels because he's a crucial part of history and for the childhood fan but the dude was a piss poor worker and only cared about himself. He represents a lot of what is bad in wrestling IMO
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