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Post by ricflair4ever on Sept 30, 2015 8:29:02 GMT -5
I'm feeling a bit WCW nostalgic lately. And it got me to thinking about what most new era pro wrestling fans are probably most familiar with WCW about. The obvious choices being nWo, Goldberg ,Sting...,maybe even some JCP era stuff like the Horsemens dominant 80s run, Dustys iconic promos, maybe even the RnR Express vs Midnight Express. But what about some of the under appreciated or flat out underrated storylines that go unmentioned? If you were a WCW fan of any era, what would be some of the angles or feuds you would bring to the attention of a youngster looking to check WCW out? I'll start with a couple of mine.
Booker T vs Rick Martel for the TV Title. Solid matches and very interesting storyline here. With Martel facing Booker ,and i think Perry Saturn for a time as well, as a babyface. ...which he had not been in a decade by that point. If i recall it was a semi-slow heel turn for Martel just prior to him getting injured and retiring in 98. Never gets mentioned even when people do talk about Bookers initial singles push with the TV Title
Raven vs Saturn/ Raven vs Kanyon.........Both of these two feuds were at one point red hot. The crowd pops for Saturn and later Kanyon were unbelievable. Raven really did have a successful run as a heel in WCW in 97-98. Despite them not knowing how to really get the most out of him. Which, admittedly, may have had a little to do with his addictions and attitude at the time. Still, even though he didnt reach his absolute potential in WCW ,his Flock run, was pretty good. He had another stellar feud with a certain other, more popular guy, after his Saturn storyline concluded.....i feel.its underrated also, but I'm gonna see if someone else mentions it on their list. The Kanyon vs Raven angle was pretty damn good even.if short. But it made Kanyon into a somebody ....moreso than the Mortis run ever did.
Going back to the late 80s JCP days, i always thought the Powers of Pain and Ivan Koloff vs Road Warriors deal was pretty cool. Of course i was a 10-11 year old kid, but the thought of a team actually holding their own with the Warriors, and causing Hawk an injury (to the eye if i recall) was downright frightening. The downside to this was there wasn't much of a payoff to it cause the Warlord and Barbarian bolted to WWF a few months later.
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Post by koreygunz on Sept 30, 2015 10:41:30 GMT -5
As an offshoot to Raven vs Kanyon, Raven/Benoit/DDP was a great feud and led to some solid matches.
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Benoit vs Booker T
Benoit vs Sullivan
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 11:33:47 GMT -5
I'm feeling a bit WCW nostalgic lately. And it got me to thinking about what most new era pro wrestling fans are probably most familiar with WCW about. The obvious choices being nWo, Goldberg ,Sting...,maybe even some JCP era stuff like the Horsemens dominant 80s run, Dustys iconic promos, maybe even the RnR Express vs Midnight Express. But what about some of the under appreciated or flat out underrated storylines that go unmentioned? If you were a WCW fan of any era, what would be some of the angles or feuds you would bring to the attention of a youngster looking to check WCW out? I'll start with a couple of mine. Booker T vs Rick Martel for the TV Title. Solid matches and very interesting storyline here. With Martel facing Booker ,and i think Perry Saturn for a time as well, as a babyface. ...which he had not been in a decade by that point. If i recall it was a semi-slow heel turn for Martel just prior to him getting injured and retiring in 98. Never gets mentioned even when people do talk about Bookers initial singles push with the TV Title Raven vs Saturn/ Raven vs Kanyon.........Both of these two feuds were at one point red hot. The crowd pops for Saturn and later Kanyon were unbelievable. Raven really did have a successful run as a heel in WCW in 97-98. Despite them not knowing how to really get the most out of him. Which, admittedly, may have had a little to do with his addictions and attitude at the time. Still, even though he didnt reach his absolute potential in WCW ,his Flock run, was pretty good. He had another stellar feud with a certain other, more popular guy, after his Saturn storyline concluded.....i feel.its underrated also, but I'm gonna see if someone else mentions it on their list. The Kanyon vs Raven angle was pretty damn good even.if short. But it made Kanyon into a somebody ....moreso than the Mortis run ever did. Going back to the late 80s JCP days, i always thought the Powers of Pain and Ivan Koloff vs Road Warriors deal was pretty cool. Of course i was a 10-11 year old kid, but the thought of a team actually holding their own with the Warriors, and causing Hawk an injury (to the eye if i recall) was downright frightening. The downside to this was there wasn't much of a payoff to it cause the Warlord and Barbarian bolted to WWF a few months later. all solid suggestions that Im gonna look up man......I remember them BUT they are worth revisiting |
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Sept 30, 2015 12:39:32 GMT -5
Jeff Jarrett vs. Steve McMichael
The feud went from like October 1996 - August 1997, and it included Dean Malenko, Chris Benoit, Debra McMichael, Woman and even the US Title into the mix.
Arn Anderson vs. Bobby Eaton
That feud went from January 1991 - May 1991 and it was mainly done on WCW World Wide. The TV Title was on the line in a few of them and it finally ended when Bobby beat Arn for the TV Title at SuperBrawl that year.
Ricky Steamboat/Shane Douglas vs. Barry Windham/partner of his choosing
Everyone loves the Steamboat/Douglas vs. Blondes feud, but before that took place, it was the Steamboat/Douglas vs. Windham/partner feud. When Douglas & Steamboat beat Windham & Rhodes for the Tag Titles, Windham went heel. He went out and got partners like Steve Austin, Bobby Eaton, and Brian Pillman to try and end the reign of Steamboat & Douglas. It ended up having a Starrcade match with Windham/Pillman vs. Steamboat/Douglas for the belts in an awesome 20 minute match that even made the Top 25 Matches of Starrcade DVD that came out five years ago.
Mr. Wonderful vs. Cactus Jack
This feud was before the Vader/Cactus feud, and it was just as violent at times. Watch SuperBrawl 3 and see the punishment Cactus Jack goes through. The sunset flip off the second turnbuckle to the cement floor. The suplex on top of the guardrail while it's erect and seeing the back of Cactus bend in half. Just a brutal match for violence.
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Post by ricflair4ever on Sept 30, 2015 14:56:37 GMT -5
Jeff Jarrett vs. Steve McMichael The feud went from like October 1996 - August 1997, and it included Dean Malenko, Chris Benoit, Debra McMichael, Woman and even the US Title into the mix. Arn Anderson vs. Bobby Eaton That feud went from January 1991 - May 1991 and it was mainly done on WCW World Wide. The TV Title was on the line in a few of them and it finally ended when Bobby beat Arn for the TV Title at SuperBrawl that year. Ricky Steamboat/Shane Douglas vs. Barry Windham/partner of his choosing Everyone loves the Steamboat/Douglas vs. Blondes feud, but before that took place, it was the Steamboat/Douglas vs. Windham/partner feud. When Douglas & Steamboat beat Windham & Rhodes for the Tag Titles, Windham went heel. He went out and got partners like Steve Austin, Bobby Eaton, and Brian Pillman to try and end the reign of Steamboat & Douglas. It ended up having a Starrcade match with Windham/Pillman vs. Steamboat/Douglas for the belts in an awesome 20 minute match that even made the Top 25 Matches of Starrcade DVD that came out five years ago. Mr. Wonderful vs. Cactus Jack This feud was before the Vader/Cactus feud, and it was just as violent at times. Watch SuperBrawl 3 and see the punishment Cactus Jack goes through. The sunset flip off the second turnbuckle to the cement floor. The suplex on top of the guardrail while it's erect and seeing the back of Cactus bend in half. Just a brutal match for violence. Every one of those are great suggestions. Keep them coming. Orndorff vs Jack was pretty damn good. I remember that shovel shot Jack gave him on the Clash in January 93. Back then that was a big deal. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 16:15:42 GMT -5
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Post by theafricandream on Sept 30, 2015 16:21:26 GMT -5
The Pillman shoot angle would've been incredible...until he actually left for real. Nonetheless, the premise was great and it's the earliest attempt at a "worked shoot" that I can recall.
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Post by Mark Martin on Sept 30, 2015 16:24:36 GMT -5
Austin & Pillman had great matches with Steamboat and Douglas over the tag titles. Definitely Benoit and Sullivan too, great matches and a great feud with legit heat but respect between each other.
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Post by theafricandream on Sept 30, 2015 16:26:54 GMT -5
I also quite enjoyed the DDP/Johnny B Badd fued. Exit Mero, enter Beefcake and it went to crap fast though.
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Post by China Claus on Sept 30, 2015 16:32:09 GMT -5
Vampiro vs. Sting was underrated in my book. It could have been so much more, but WCW dropped the ball as they had so many times.
I have some pretty fond memories of Harlem Heat vs. Nasty Boys as well.
Going further back, Kevin Sullivan's feud with Jimmy Garvin and Precious was intriguing for the time, but never really panned out.
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Post by threehgame on Sept 30, 2015 20:21:45 GMT -5
Jericho's crusierweight title run as a whole is worth a watch. The Malenko section of the feud is very well known but Jericho killed it during his entire run and created the finest heel WCW had in years.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 21:51:48 GMT -5
A favorite of mine was a short lived storyline with Disco Inferno trying to be a wolfpac member. I remember Kevin nash telling him attack the giant and they would be right behind him to have his back. So hes in the ring and their talkin trash and disco punches giant, steps back and looks around, hits him again, looks around, and no wolfpac. Needless to say giant beat the crap out of him. lol Disco was such a bad character but he had his moments.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Sept 30, 2015 23:56:38 GMT -5
Dustin Rhodes vs. Stud Stable from late 1993 - late 1994.
Dustin started feuding with Steve Austin, Austin won the US Title and Dustin went on to feud with Bunkhouse Buck. Terry Funk got involved, split Dustin's head open, so Dustin got Arn Anderson to help him. Arn turned on Dustin in a tag match and joined the Stud Stable. That would lead to Dusty Rhodes coming back, and getting the Nasty Boys to join he and Dustin in a War Games match at Fall Brawl.
Ricky Steamboat vs. Steve Austin
From 1992 - 1994 these two men tangled between the ropes many a time. Whether it was for the TV Title in 1992 in which Steamboat beat Austin for, or the Tag Titles in 1993 in which Austin & Pillman beat Steamboat & Douglas for, or whether it be for the US Title in 1994 in which Steamboat beat Austin for, they always had great matches when a title belt was on the line.
Doom vs. Horsemen
From August 1990 - December 1990, the Horsemen and Doom battled for the NWA Tag Titles many times. Usually it was Flair & Arn vs. Doom but Windham & Arn vs. Doom took place at Starrcade. They even had a one on one match pitting Butch Reed vs. Ric Flair at the November Clash of the Champions.
The Freebirds vs. Young Pistols
These two teams fought each other at the Clash of the Champions a total of 4 times. June 1990, September 1990, November 1990 and June 1991. Not too mention SuperBrawl for the US Tag Titles, and Great American Bash 91. That tag feud never gets talked about much, but to go back and watch them, they are up there with RnR vs. Midnights for great tag team action.
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Post by PJ on Oct 1, 2015 5:19:26 GMT -5
Austin & Pillman had great matches with Steamboat and Douglas over the tag titles. Definitely Benoit and Sullivan too, great matches and a great feud with legit heat but respect between each other. Benoit vs Sullivan were great matches. Especially the one in Baltimore. |
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Oct 1, 2015 11:14:16 GMT -5
Austin & Pillman had great matches with Steamboat and Douglas over the tag titles. Definitely Benoit and Sullivan too, great matches and a great feud with legit heat but respect between each other. Benoit vs Sullivan were great matches. Especially the one in Baltimore. The match that I would have loved to have seen between the two was the match right before World War 3 in 1996. Sullivan, and the Dungeon of Doom legit beat the crap out of Benoit because he was f**king Nancy, while she was still married to Sullivan. Benoit is all beat up looking when he comes out that night at the PPV. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 0:22:03 GMT -5
DDP vs Johnny B Badd has been pretty great.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Oct 3, 2015 1:02:53 GMT -5
DDP vs Johnny B Badd has been pretty great. Until Johnny left WCW and Booty Man took his spot in that feud. That was horrendous. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 1:07:57 GMT -5
DDP vs Johnny B Badd has been pretty great. Until Johnny left WCW and Booty Man took his spot in that feud. That was horrendous. Of course. It was Booty Man. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 11:40:55 GMT -5
Booty Man.....Good God.
Doom IMHO are an underrated tandem in the history of WCW. They were a great powerhouse squad IMO......and 2 very good workers to boot. I enjoyed their whole deal actually.
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Post by ricflair4ever on Oct 3, 2015 16:05:38 GMT -5
Booty Man.....Good God. Doom IMHO are an underrated tandem in the history of WCW. They were a great powerhouse squad IMO......and 2 very good workers to boot. I enjoyed their whole deal actually. 3 of my absolute favorite tag team feuds of all time were with Doom. Doom vs Steiners during Dooms masked era Doom vs Ric Flair and Arn Anderson....it was such a fresh and different rivalry for its time. You didn't see two heel teams against each other often at all. I was a hardcore Horsemen mark (still am...lol) but i liked Doom a lot too. A very fun, albeit brief, period Doom vs The Freebirds....much like the Horsemen/Doom angle ,it was somewhat heel vs heel ,although the arguement could be made that the Birds were kind of Tweeners by then. I marked big time when the Birds took the tag titles......thank goodness there was no , internet back then. That way i wasn't spoiled by the fact the Birds had already lost those belts to the Stieners at a tv taping BEFORE winning them at the ppv. To keep the topic going, i always thought Sid vs Goldberg was one of the better points of late 99 WCW. Considering the participants, i thought they made it work. I feel there would have been more to their story if the Russo regime wasn't coming to power in the middle of the feud. When looking at a list of opponents that Goldberg could have had any long term history with,Sid is one of the few who may have filled that role. |
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