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Post by MichaelTheMartian on Oct 2, 2015 2:16:00 GMT -5
Both are super talent in ring performers, both lack mic skills. Sounds like Kidd/Cesaro, Swagger/Cesaro, Hass/Benjamin, etc. We have seen it many times, pair two guys who don't have much charisma and aren't doing much and more times than not there value rises and they find a good spot on the card whether it be challenging for the tag titles, being able to put on a good match with the champs, be a good "mid card" team, etc. Both are doing absolutely nothing other than appearing on Superstars and Main Event and losing. I'd say put them together, see what happens with them organically as they will build chemistry with each other like Kidd/Cesaro.
Give them Zeb Colter as the manager and either be a re hash of the Real Americans, or give them a disgruntled employees gimmick where they're tired of being mistreated and air out there grievances with the company. Let them feud with PTP first for a while, a returning Uso's and if all goes well then with the Dudleyz.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 2:20:47 GMT -5
Or they could just re-form the Real Americans as a face team and then add Tyson in when he comes back.
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Oct 2, 2015 2:31:30 GMT -5
Or they could just re-form the Real Americans as a face team and then add Tyson in when he comes back. Kidd's Canadian, so they would only have 1 Real American in the group.  About Swagger and Axel, it would all ride on Zeb, so I don't really see it working. More than these two guys tho, I want Sandow to be relevant again. The guy was getting huge reactions and it had like zero payoff. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 2:36:33 GMT -5
Or they could just re-form the Real Americans as a face team and then add Tyson in when he comes back. Kidd's Canadian, so they would only have 1 Real American in the group. About Swagger and Axel, it would all ride on Zeb, so I don't really see it working. More than these two guys tho, I want Sandow to be relevant again. The guy was getting huge reactions and it had like zero payoff. Wrestlers have said in the past that the WWE doesn't like when you get over when you're not supposed too. |
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Oct 2, 2015 2:51:55 GMT -5
Kidd's Canadian, so they would only have 1 Real American in the group. About Swagger and Axel, it would all ride on Zeb, so I don't really see it working. More than these two guys tho, I want Sandow to be relevant again. The guy was getting huge reactions and it had like zero payoff. Wrestlers have said in the past that the WWE doesn't like when you get over when you're not supposed too.True, can't argue with that. I feel that was meant to be a payoff for Miz, which never really happened. Sandow took garbage and made it gold. To tie it to the original post, I'd like it if they took the team of Axel and Sandow and gave them a new, more serious gimmick. They should be fed up and demand respect. Axel and Sandow were both trained and mentored by legends, son of Mr. Perfect and intellectual savior, they could be a perfect arrogant heel tag-team, but what do I know?   (This is much better than my idea) I do agree teaming some of the lower card guys up could be the huge boost that they need. |
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Post by "The Perfect Ten" Mizard on Oct 2, 2015 4:08:28 GMT -5
I can see both those guys being released pretty soon. Axel will probably become an nxt trainer whilst Swagger will probably smoke pot all day.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 5:38:44 GMT -5
Or they could just re-form the Real Americans as a face team and then add Tyson in when he comes back. An anti-USA face team? In 'murica?? Funny enough if that concept was used in Britian, they'd be the most over babyfaces in the country. They could always go Pro-USA I guess, "the imports" w/ Axel. |
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Post by Chip on Oct 2, 2015 8:14:23 GMT -5
because there isnt enough time in 5 hours of TV a week to get guys who can wrestle and be entertaining on the show.
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Post by punksnotdead on Oct 2, 2015 8:19:16 GMT -5
This is that Curt Hawkins and Zack Ryder logic though. I essentially cried for like 2-3 years for them to put Hawkins and Ryder back together after Ryder got buried and it just never happened. Even if they're a jobber tag team, maybe eventually they can weather that storm and get a push at some point. Axel and Swagger are clearly two guys who need a mouthpiece, so I'm definitely in favor of putting them together and getting someone out there with them, especially if it's Zeb, but WWE doesn't seem to care that much.
It's crazy that we were once in a time when every guy had a writer dedicated to a group of wrestlers, and each of those wrestlers all had something to do and added value to the show. Now WWE has twice as much TV time and they work with less talent. Sad really.
I'm a really big fan of Sandow. I just feel he's a guy that's so talented it would be impossible to keep him from coming back and doing something great again. Swagger and Axel I'm not sure will get that opportunity though.
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Post by marino13 on Oct 2, 2015 8:51:13 GMT -5
I want Swagger to align with Jordon/Gable down in NXT. Add Zeb Colter as their mouthpiece/trainer and make them sort of a modern day Varsity Club.
I'd also put Axel & Otunga back together. They are former tag champs so they already have some chemistry.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 9:52:31 GMT -5
I'd rather see Axel team with Ziggler while Swagger gets released.
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Post by The Dave on Oct 2, 2015 10:00:57 GMT -5
Both are super talent in ring performers, both lack mic skills. Sounds like Kidd/Cesaro, Swagger/Cesaro, Hass/Benjamin, etc. We have seen it many times, pair two guys who don't have much charisma and aren't doing much and more times than not there value rises and they find a good spot on the card whether it be challenging for the tag titles, being able to put on a good match with the champs, be a good "mid card" team, etc. Both are doing absolutely nothing other than appearing on Superstars and Main Event and losing. I'd say put them together, see what happens with them organically as they will build chemistry with each other like Kidd/Cesaro. Give them Zeb Colter as the manager and either be a re hash of the Real Americans, or give them a disgruntled employees gimmick where they're tired of being mistreated and air out there grievances with the company. Let them feud with PTP first for a while, a returning Uso's and if all goes well then with the Dudleyz.  |
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Post by havoc7179 on Oct 2, 2015 10:09:34 GMT -5
Isn't the Swiss Superman supposed to be from Switzerland? Yet, he was a Real American. I don't see the issue with Kidd being added.
Here's a better thing: Make them like the Old Spice Commercials. Get a super loud muscular person to team with a more reserved,noble wrestler. For that, I could see Sandow and Axel. Sandow comes out on a horse looking all dignified while Axel is just yelling and screaming like he does whenever he does that weird gesture in the ring like he's supposed to be Cam Newton or Superman. It might work.
(As I was writing this, I forgot that they teamed, even when looking at the Meta-Power pic).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 12:46:29 GMT -5
I'd rather see Swagger back with Cesaro. If they're never gonna give Cesaro a big main event face push, then he might as well be in a tag team.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Oct 2, 2015 12:47:23 GMT -5
I was always told as a kid "two wrongs dont make a right"
I think that applies here, Both guys have very little appeal (atleast to me), Swagger's Craptain America gimmick does nothing for me, they could have done something with him if he'd gone over Rusev all that time ago, I think people could have gotten behind him then, especailly with Zeb doing the talking.
Axel went the other way, had a match on raw with Triple H and came out looking tidy, won the IC title all fairly quickly AND became a Heyman guy, but at the end of the day Axel is just further proof that wrestling talent is not hereditary.
Send em both down to NXT and see if they improve, I find it odd that there are guys who dont get used much and dont end up in NXT, where they could be given the chance to improve and maybe take their career to the next level.
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