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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Feb 3, 2016 2:14:32 GMT -5
Professional Wrestling is an art-form which requires total cooperation between it's "Portrayers of Combatants," pardon the poetic liberties taken. However, more often than not in the world of Matdom, the fans' perception of a talent can be altered in a fashion unintended by promoters.
When Billy Robinson wrestled, he rarely used techniques outlandish or impractical enough to require the assistance of his opponent. Whether it be leverage throws, leg sweeps, European Uppercuts, Cravats, Neck Cranks, & for a long time-the Double-underhook Suplex into a bridge.
So the question is, throughout wrestling, 20s to the modern Indies, Lucha, Puro, Catch As Catch Can, & everything outside of & in between, WHAT ARE SOME THE HARDEST HOLDS(moves of any kind) pull off?
Name some of the holds you think are incredible displays of athleticism when executed.
I would prefer to keep the conversation within the boundaries of moves wrestlers could actually use in a legitimate match, such as the Belly To Belly Overhead Suplex, but there's not as much argument against a flying head-scissors, or a 6-1-9, or a Lethal Injection as one would think.
Let the comic fan style debate commence.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 7:13:12 GMT -5
I don't have much to contribute other than the times Kevin Randleman would German suplex someone.
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Feb 3, 2016 10:43:48 GMT -5
Bockwinkel's double underhook suplex comes to mind. The abdominal stretch/octopus hold. The delayed suplex.
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Post by ricflair4ever on Feb 3, 2016 13:52:02 GMT -5
In my experience, a legit abdominal stretch is hard to put on someone properly, but if you do (or find yourself in it) its pretty damn effective.But more to your actual question , if you break down something as relatively simple as a small package, its got to be one of the best examples of timing in wrestling. Both guys have to have the grab and roll timed perfectly for it to look right. The upside to it, is when done right ,it comes off as a totally believable move. If it were applied in reality, the chances of escaping it within three seconds are pretty low. Of course there are more examples i could use, but I'm pretty curious about what the other members choices would be.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Feb 3, 2016 14:41:49 GMT -5
I find now when watching current WWE product is that the hardest thing for me to do is keep my eyes open during it.
Does that count??
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Post by T R W on Feb 3, 2016 14:50:57 GMT -5
Cutting a promo.
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Post by Colter on Feb 4, 2016 8:34:48 GMT -5
Exactly what I came in here to say.
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Feb 4, 2016 13:56:13 GMT -5
Bob Backlund's reverse roll-up into a bridge pinning combination. Owen Hart's belly-to-belly suplex.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 14:36:10 GMT -5
Steiner Screwdriver
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 12:58:19 GMT -5
Figure 4, I've been put in that and my legs felt like Jelly afterwards.
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Post by PJ on Feb 6, 2016 20:32:56 GMT -5
I think the perfect-plex would be hard to hold onto when performing it.
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