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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Feb 20, 2016 19:52:24 GMT -5
So yeah been binging on 2001 thanks to the Network, and I've just passed the episode where Trips rips his quad and POOF like that, he's gone for the rest of the year. Does anyone have any info on where things were gonna be going with him in terms of the Two-Man Powertrip (this was clearly coming to an end soon though, with Austin costing Trips at JD and the next night, the finish was Trips hitting Austin with the hammer, costing them the titles, so they were clearly on the road to the end with that stuff), but also going into the Invasion. I've heard weird stories, ranging from Trips and Rock being the faces of WWF against Austin and Taker who would be on the Alliance side, to Triple H and Taker being the WWF guys against Jericho and Benoit.
So yeah, has anyone heard anything?
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Post by cordless2016 on Feb 20, 2016 20:51:04 GMT -5
So yeah been binging on 2001 thanks to the Network, and I've just passed the episode where Trips rips his quad and POOF like that, he's gone for the rest of the year. Does anyone have any info on where things were gonna be going with him in terms of the Two-Man Powertrip (this was clearly coming to an end soon though, with Austin costing Trips at JD and the next night, the finish was Trips hitting Austin with the hammer, costing them the titles, so they were clearly on the road to the end with that stuff), but also going into the Invasion. I've heard weird stories, ranging from Trips and Rock being the faces of WWF against Austin and Taker who would be on the Alliance side, to Triple H and Taker being the WWF guys against Jericho and Benoit. So yeah, has anyone heard anything? HHH was to turn face and face a heel Austin. It would have been a rehash of their feud from earlier in the year but with roles reversed. I'm not happy HHH got hurt but glad things went down the way they did as Angle went from a star to a superstar after facing Austin.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 21, 2016 9:38:37 GMT -5
I think the fake pregnancy storyline would've happened earlier where Stephanie tries to trick HHH into joining the alliance but he finds out the truth and sides with the WWF.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 12:12:29 GMT -5
So much would've changed. I'm actually right past where you are, network wise.
I feel like they could've kept the PT going, and have them just join the alliance together. Austin/Angle, HHH/Jericho, Rock/Booker. Though, Jericho probably would NOT have been the first UC, if that quad decided not to rip that night. So as much as it pains me, I'm glad it happened.
On a sidenote, I remembered the Alliance angle being bad, obviously, but Jesus I'm having a hard time getting through it. They're trying so hard to get random guys over every night, and it's almost as bad as watching Reigns. I mean Kanyon, Stasiak, Palumbo, etc. Makes me hate the other guys for refusing to sign.
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Feb 22, 2016 14:23:09 GMT -5
So much would've changed. I'm actually right past where you are, network wise. I feel like they could've kept the PT going, and have them just join the alliance together. Austin/Angle, HHH/Jericho, Rock/Booker. Though, Jericho probably would NOT have been the first UC, if that quad decided not to rip that night. So as much as it pains me, I'm glad it happened. On a sidenote, I remembered the Alliance angle being bad, obviously, but Jesus I'm having a hard time getting through it. They're trying so hard to get random guys over every night, and it's almost as bad as watching Reigns. I mean Kanyon, Stasiak, Palumbo, etc. Makes me hate the other guys for refusing to sign. You know with the Alliance, I really do commend them for pushing younger stars at the start (bar Page); having Awesome come out and win the Hardcore title was important as hell, and the first guy that showed up was Lance Storm (in Canada) and got an INSANE reaction. I really think if they kept up with that, they could have had more original stars as main event threats as opposed to having to use so many WWE stars.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Feb 23, 2016 19:03:15 GMT -5
Triple H being on the DL caused a domino effect in booking and other factors. Chris Jericho noted on Talk Is Jericho with the Dudley Boyz that the SmackDown after Judgment Day 2001 had to be rewritten. This meant the four teams in TLC III had about five hours to prepare for said match. Jericho later iterated the original idea was for the whole episode to revolve around Triple H and Steve Austin. With Triple H doing down, the idea was changed to do a Four Team TLC Match. It is said that this was the match that caused Chris Benoit's neck injury. The severity of said injury didn't become known till the King of The Ring.
Triple H was to turn face and feud with a heel Steve Austin. I heard eons ago that Kurt Angle's role during the invasion would have went to Triple H. With Triple H being on the DL, it caused a ton of plans to change. I wonder if this affected the WWF's booking plans for WrestleMania X8. I am sure of Triple H hadn't gotten injured, the card for WrestleMania X8 would have been vastly different.
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Post by HHH316 on Feb 25, 2016 0:48:52 GMT -5
Outside of what's already been said, if I remember correctly, Nitro was going to return with HHH as its premiere star. Instead of the brand split with SD, it would of been Raw & Nitro, but with Nitro on Tuesdays.
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Post by bigbalooka on Feb 25, 2016 10:20:22 GMT -5
Outside of what's already been said, if I remember correctly, Nitro was going to return with HHH as its premiere star. Instead of the brand split with SD, it would of been Raw & Nitro, but with Nitro on Tuesdays. well that would have been interesting.... if that's true its crazy how drastically one injury changed the course of history
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 25, 2016 12:41:13 GMT -5
Outside of what's already been said, if I remember correctly, Nitro was going to return with HHH as its premiere star. Instead of the brand split with SD, it would of been Raw & Nitro, but with Nitro on Tuesdays. Nothing to do with HHH and the show wasn't going to be called Nitro just WCW. The reason why it didn't happen was because of how bad the Booker T vs Buff Bagwell match was.
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Feb 25, 2016 16:49:22 GMT -5
Outside of what's already been said, if I remember correctly, Nitro was going to return with HHH as its premiere star. Instead of the brand split with SD, it would of been Raw & Nitro, but with Nitro on Tuesdays. Nothing to do with HHH and the show wasn't going to be called Nitro just WCW. The reason why it didn't happen was because of how bad the Booker T vs Buff Bagwell match was.
You know I watched that match last night, and damn I wanted to like it cause I totally back Bagwell, but damn that was such a snoozefest! I mean it didn't help that it was unadvertised till that Monday night, and it took place on WWF Raw, and it was so early in the game it hadn't been defined really who was hell and face in the thing. Bagwell couldn't work the WWE style though, even then when the WWE didn't even have that much of a constraint on its style, he just was too slow and plodding. I dont know, Im watching the Invasion stuff now, and onto that PPV, and so far the guys the Alliance are pushing are their own, of course its the Invasion PPV where Austin comes in and effectively ruins it all turns it into WWF vs WWF with some WCW and ECW guys...
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 26, 2016 11:46:43 GMT -5
Nothing to do with HHH and the show wasn't going to be called Nitro just WCW. The reason why it didn't happen was because of how bad the Booker T vs Buff Bagwell match was.
You know I watched that match last night, and damn I wanted to like it cause I totally back Bagwell, but damn that was such a snoozefest! I mean it didn't help that it was unadvertised till that Monday night, and it took place on WWF Raw, and it was so early in the game it hadn't been defined really who was hell and face in the thing. Bagwell couldn't work the WWE style though, even then when the WWE didn't even have that much of a constraint on its style, he just was too slow and plodding. I dont know, Im watching the Invasion stuff now, and onto that PPV, and so far the guys the Alliance are pushing are their own, of course its the Invasion PPV where Austin comes in and effectively ruins it all turns it into WWF vs WWF with some WCW and ECW guys... LOL yeah at the beginning I enjoyed it but once Austin turned it was doomed. Guys like the Dudleys joining made sense but then you had Test, Christian, Angle etc it was stupid and I honestly expected Undertaker or Rock to turn and join aswell.
What angers me the most is that when the Invasion ended all the WCW big names started to arrive.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Mar 14, 2016 6:28:38 GMT -5
I have to ask the question:
Why did they choose Bagwell to have that match with Booker? What were they expecting to happen? They should have had someone like DDP or Mike Awesome.
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Post by PJ on Mar 14, 2016 16:32:41 GMT -5
Damn has it been 15 years since that quad injury already? It doesn't seem like it was that long ago.
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Post by wolfpac on Mar 24, 2016 11:30:48 GMT -5
Outside of what's already been said, if I remember correctly, Nitro was going to return with HHH as its premiere star. Instead of the brand split with SD, it would of been Raw & Nitro, but with Nitro on Tuesdays. Nothing to do with HHH and the show wasn't going to be called Nitro just WCW. The reason why it didn't happen was because of how bad the Booker T vs Buff Bagwell match was.
Actually wasn't the reason they never went with a WCW show was because the network wanted WWF wrestling, not a failed brand as WCW? Once that happened, I feel like the invasion was dead in the water and they had to cram everybody into one roster! I always felt if WCW got it's own show, they could have waited out the big name contracts and kept the invasion angle fresh to still go to a year later after getting Flair and the nWo.
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Post by Dan on Mar 24, 2016 12:08:18 GMT -5
Triple H being on the DL caused a domino effect in booking and other factors. Chris Jericho noted on Talk Is Jericho with the Dudley Boyz that the SmackDown after Judgment Day 2001 had to be rewritten. This meant the four teams in TLC III had about five hours to prepare for said match. Jericho later iterated the original idea was for the whole episode to revolve around Triple H and Steve Austin. With Triple H doing down, the idea was changed to do a Four Team TLC Match. It is said that this was the match that caused Chris Benoit's neck injury. The severity of said injury didn't become known till the King of The Ring. Triple H was to turn face and feud with a heel Steve Austin. I heard eons ago that Kurt Angle's role during the invasion would have went to Triple H. With Triple H being on the DL, it caused a ton of plans to change. I wonder if this affected the WWF's booking plans for WrestleMania X8. I am sure of Triple H hadn't gotten injured, the card for WrestleMania X8 would have been vastly different. First of all, I think it's a blessing in disguise, as when he returned from injury he garnered a huge natural reaction as a babyface, something nothing booking related could have done for him. I also think Kurt Angle gained a lot from carrying that rivalry with Austin in 2001, and it was a great and fresh programme between the two. Triple H just can't pull off the comical things that Angle can. Last of all, I still think that the Main Event of Wrestlemania 18 absolutely should have been a Triple Threat between Chris Jericho, Kurt Angle and Triple H, I still have no idea why Angle was bumped from that to a meaningless Match with Kane after being the WWE's top babyface for most of the year and even feuding with Triple H two months prior. I wonder if Chris Jericho would have become the Undisputed Champion? Wouldn't surprise me if Triple H would have gotten that spot.
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