hbkowns
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Post by hbkowns on Apr 9, 2016 13:09:52 GMT -5
I'm just going to be flat out honest and say for the past 2 years Lesnar's booking/match style has been aggravating, almost to the point where I don't really care for him at all.
Why? It's not interesting to see a guy smash someone week in and week out. Ever since Brock ended the streak, his work-rate has gone significantly down and I have not been entertained by any of his matches, excluding the triple threats he's had at the Rumble and Fastlane. His booking makes him look untouchable. I understand he needs to look like a monster to an extent because of ending the steak, but that did no favors to anybody. Brock's work rate went down, Taker looked like a fool, and still does because he should have retired the moment that it ended.
Lesnar's current booking is annoying because it's clear as day they don't have any long term plans of he is going to benefit the future. He squashed Ambrose, and decimated Reigns, and made Rollins look like a joke. When it comes time for him to put someone over, if ever, how is it going to look believable, and who is he going to put over? Because if neither of those three can, then nobody on the current roster stands a chance. It's terrible booking and Lesnar's current run does no favors for anybody. It's silly to book a guy that strong and not put anyone over, then walk out on top.
Lesnar out of all people should have put Ambrose over. What favors did it do to Ambrose to lose to Lesnar, nothing. If he came out with the win, it would have elevated Ambrose to the next level, and boom a new star is born, and Lesnar's stock is still up because that would have been his first clean loss in almost 3 years, and he would have came back for the rematch.
But no, Lesnar goes over in 12 minutes, makes Ambrose looks like an idiot. And who is a believable opponent for Lesnar now? Wyatt? No. Lesnar has steam rolled through the entire roster.
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Post by Sizzle on Apr 9, 2016 13:12:01 GMT -5
Yes. Brock ending the streak was a bad decision in the long run. That's all I will say.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2016 13:20:26 GMT -5
It's obvious their initial plan was for Roman to go over Brock after he decimated both Cena and Taker, but obviously that didn't work out. I'd say that if he had gone over Cena the way he had anyways, he wouldn't have even needed to end the streak. I think it would have been better in the long run to milk the streak out a few more years, but I guess they thought at the time that their plans for Roman would work out flawlessly.
I love Brock. I still enjoy him, but man, I'd love to see him actually wrestle more often because the dude was phenomenal at it. I know that his current gimmick may make them more money, but I'd love for just one match at least to where he reverts to 2003-2004 Lesnar for a night.
I'd also wish that he wasn't completely invincible, because he could have some great matches with the likes of Harper/Sheamus if they just let them both go at it. Ah well. His current gimmick is a money maker, so they'll stick with that.
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Post by Rontaro13 on Apr 9, 2016 14:08:34 GMT -5
I can't stand how Brock is booked to steamroll through most of his opponents. If Brock really did have to win at WM, then he should have at least been taken to the limit by Ambrose to make Ambrose look good coming out of the match. As for Brock's in ring ability, he's only done punches and suplexes since squashing John Cena at Summerslam 2014. That's a real shame too considering he's capable of more than that.
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Post by Darkhawk on Apr 9, 2016 14:24:21 GMT -5
I'm hoping Bray Wyatt can beat Lesnar, it will at least show that Lesnar is beatable and elevate Bray.
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Post by sitruC on Apr 9, 2016 14:29:19 GMT -5
Yes, they're at a stage where no one is good enough to beat him, but they put him in feuds with people everyone wants to beat him.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Apr 9, 2016 15:38:35 GMT -5
The way he destroyed Ambrose at Mania made me sick to my stomach.
If they want Brock to win all the time let him feud with oldies like Jericho and Orton but keep him away from young talent. |
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Post by Rob on Apr 9, 2016 15:41:26 GMT -5
Guaranteed he is just going to mow over the whole roster, then bounce when his contract is up with no payoff.
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Post by johnnyaustin21 on Apr 9, 2016 18:08:04 GMT -5
Brock has real been a shell of himself ever sense his return in '12 and really has only had two great matches against CM Punk at SummerSlam '13 and the triple threat at the Royal Rumble in 2014.He's been book as Mr.MMA which has killed his move set and in ring quality work rate.Just look at him in '02-'04 he was a beast that could go and put on great matches.Another thing that hurts him is he basically never talks now,I get having Heyman as his manger and all but Brock should speak a lot more,he's shown in the past to be a pretty good talker going toe to toe with the likes of Austin,Angle and Eddie.
As big as a fan of his that I was in the past I really hope that next years Wrestlemania marks the end of his in ring career in WWE.Hopefully he puts over someone huge in the process otherwise him ending the streak and being book the way he has will all be for nothing.On a side note he should have never ended the streak,it real didn't nothing for his career sense he was already one of the biggest and most well know stars in the company and also and older guy who's a part timer only.The Streak should have been given to a young guy like a Reings,Rollins,Wyatt...ect
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Post by k5 on Apr 9, 2016 18:27:02 GMT -5
i don't agree with the way ambrose lost, like many of you also do. however, that's the only outing of lesnar's i've felt the least bit let down at. i'm just a big fan of the character/originality/packaging. but i understand how many feel differently.
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Post by bad guy™ on Apr 9, 2016 18:58:26 GMT -5
Ehh, I don't mind the "Arrive. Smash. Win." That way when he does lose, it's almost borderline "holy sh*t" no matter who goes over, sans Cena or Roman.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Apr 9, 2016 20:20:29 GMT -5
I hope they can re-sign him again just to have him put someone over. theres a multitude of guys who could use that win over someone like Lesnar. I can see him wanting a stupid amount of money and WWE not agreeing on a deal in the future.
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Post by bad guy™ on Apr 9, 2016 20:39:25 GMT -5
I hope they can re-sign him again just to have him put someone over. theres a multitude of guys who could use that win over someone like Lesnar. I can see him wanting a stupid amount of money and WWE not agreeing on a deal in the future. Well be can't play in the NFL. He can't cage fight anymore. He only wants to work limited days and so he can be at home as much as possible so that cancels Japan...if he wants a paycheck he's gonna have to stay with WWE or retire. |
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Post by hbchris on Apr 9, 2016 21:13:58 GMT -5
It's a symptom of WWE's biggest booking problem: he's super predictable. When he comes out, you know he's gonna win.
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Post by marino13 on Apr 9, 2016 21:17:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't have minded the streak ending to Brock if WWE would let others get the rub from Brock. Cena & Roman does not need that win. But someone like Dean or Cesaro would benefit greatly.
Unfortunately, I didn't like the match with Dean at all. It was the biggest disappointment of the night. I honestly believed Ambrose was walking out with the upset win. But I could have lived with Brock winning had it been far more competitive. It was not.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2016 1:09:38 GMT -5
Given his accolades in MMA (and the fact he is built up in a real sense with true believability about how much of a 'beast' he is), I personally don't mind it - it suits him IMO.
Is it linear? Yes.
A tad derivative? Sure.
But he competes under his real name, makes no bones about the fact he doesn't like people and would prefer to hurt anyone standing in his way via the method he dispatched Cena at SummerSlam '14 due to its effectiveness.
Why not.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2016 2:04:55 GMT -5
I don't mind his booking, but Brock has proven in the past that he's a tremendously skilled amateur wrestler from his high school days, and he knows a thing or two about MMA. It wouldn't hurt to mix his moveset up a little bit.
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Post by Wrestlaholic on Apr 10, 2016 3:56:06 GMT -5
WWE pushed themselves into a corner allowing Lesnar to beat the streak, it's probably one of their worst decisions. Someone above said keep him away from the new talent, I couldn't agree more, he'd be better feuding with an established guy who can draw big ratings and make money from it, no one benefitted from his WM match with Dean Ambrose. I thought the build up was terrible, the match looking back was 'OK' but far too short and given all the hype about Dean being the lunatic fringe and having chainsaw Charlie and the barbwired bat, it then made no sense when they couldn't incorporate it into the match, my interpretation was because it wasn't safe? Understandable but think before you include them in a build up!
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Apr 10, 2016 6:50:52 GMT -5
I hope they can re-sign him again just to have him put someone over. theres a multitude of guys who could use that win over someone like Lesnar. I can see him wanting a stupid amount of money and WWE not agreeing on a deal in the future. Well be can't play in the NFL. He can't cage fight anymore. He only wants to work limited days and so he can be at home as much as possible so that cancels Japan...if he wants a paycheck he's gonna have to stay with WWE or retire. Brock seems like the type to name a price and not waver. I don't really think he needs the money he sounds like he's pretty set for life after listening to the Austin podcast he did. |
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Post by 0,Y on Apr 10, 2016 7:07:16 GMT -5
I like Brock and all but his booking has been terrible in recent years. Ending the streak still is and probably will forever be one of the most stupid decisions they ever made. His feud with Ambrose could have been so amazing if Ambrose went over at WM or if he at least gave Lesnar a hell of a fight. But the way they did it was just bad. Lowlight of the show tbh.
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