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Post by kammich on Jul 2, 2005 23:41:24 GMT -5
-priest holmes is the best redzone runner since marcus allen -rudi johnson got 315 carries in a "passing offense" last year -once again, a passing offense does not diminish a running back's ability. edgerrin james was 2nd behind only ladainian tomlinson in total yardage laster year, because he was on of Peyton's go-to options.
buffalo has big questions on the offensive line, and a QB with no experience. chances are, he'll end up getting 300+ carries out of necessity, but i wouldn't bank on him making a huge impact with those carries.
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Post by Kliquid on Jul 2, 2005 23:54:20 GMT -5
I'm not saying that it's improbable that Rudi Johnson or Edgerrin James put up more yards than McGahee. In my opinion, though, McGahee will be in the end-zone more then either of them. Of course, this is just my opinion. And Priest Holmes can put up as many TD's as his coaches want him to - he'll still never even be within licking distance of Emmitt Smith's chode hair. He's 10,000+ yards and almost 100 TD's behind - So there. And Emmitt > Allen. It's ing true.
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Post by kammich on Jul 2, 2005 23:59:30 GMT -5
emmitt smith was a TD machine, but there's a difference between TD machines and great goalline runners. 3rd and goal at the 2, i need someone to go up the gut through 4 DT's in the goalline formation to get the TD... who do i go with? marcus allen. every. single. time.
im not saying priest holmes is better than emmitt, im just saying he's a better TD threat. and he is. priest holmes' 2-year run a few years back is untouchable. and if you want to bring up the play of his o-line, it goes ditto for the cowboys. when emmitt smith had to manufacture his own yardage in arizona, he averaged 2.8 yards a carry. also, its worth nothing that priest holmes didnt become a full-time starter until he was 30. emmitt smith became a starter at age 21, so its unfair to compare statistics.
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Post by Kliquid on Jul 3, 2005 1:46:20 GMT -5
emmitt smith was a TD machine, but there's a difference between TD machines and great goalline runners. 3rd and goal at the 2, i need someone to go up the gut through 4 DT's in the goalline formation to get the TD... who do i go with? marcus allen. every. single. time. I disagree. Emmitt Smith was a nose-forward, hard-hitting, nearly impossible to tackle, son of a bitch. I don't quite understand why you under-rate Smith so much, but I'll just throw it in the "Eagles getting raped by the Cowboys during Emmitt's stay" hat. (LoL... Love, tim...) im not saying priest holmes is better than emmitt, im just saying he's a better TD threat. and he is. priest holmes' 2-year run a few years back is untouchable. Again, I'll have to respectfully disagree. Emmitt Smith in 1994 & 1995 > Priest Holmes in 2002 & 2003. Holmes had 2 more TD's, Smith had 250 more rushing yards... Not to mention, Emmitt was the biggest part of his team's Superbowl runs. The best thing Holmes has been a part of as a Chief is a 13-3 record that ended with his team getting raped in the playoffs. and if you want to bring up the play of his o-line, it goes ditto for the cowboys. when emmitt smith had to manufacture his own yardage in arizona, he averaged 2.8 yards a carry. ... He was also in his late 30's, in a system he wasn't familiar with, let's not forget. Priest Holmes had to manufacture his own yards (although to a lesser degree than Smith on the Cardinals) when he was on the Ravens - and he was rather lackluster. Exactly. He wasn't good enough to start.
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Post by dashdood on Jul 4, 2005 10:54:37 GMT -5
preist holmes put up a 1000 yard season in baltimore around like 99-00 i believe..
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Post by Kliquid on Jul 5, 2005 21:22:28 GMT -5
preist holmes put up a 1000 yard season in baltimore around like 99-00 i believe.. A 1,000-yard season isn't what it once was. Not to mention, he's only had 4 of them in his 8 years in the league. By comparison, LaDainian Tomlinson has already done that... In 1998, on the Ravens, he only put up 7 TD's. People act like he's a touchdown machine when in fact, he's only ever really had two 'great' seasons. Derrick Blaylock had 9 touchdowns in 5 games started on the Chiefs... I'm not saying that Blaylock is amazing, nor am I saying that he's terrible... He's mediocre, is all. And he filled Holmes' place perfectly fine.
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Post by kammich on Jul 7, 2005 23:24:17 GMT -5
priest holmes was never a fulltime starter in baltimore... he played second-fiddle bam morris most of his career, and then jamal lewis in 2000... and its unfair and innacurate to say he wasnt "good enough" to start early in his career... you have to remember, emmitt smith was a highly touted running back out of florida, a 1st round draft pick with immediate expectations of starting. priest holmes was back-up at UT who went undrafted and had to EARN every single carry he's ever had in the NFL. the fact that he's blossomed into a player who will atleast "dent" some of the league's rushing records, is quite an achievement in its own right
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Post by Kliquid on Jul 7, 2005 23:27:12 GMT -5
Unless Holmes succeeds in a system that doesn't just pop out touchdown-scoring running backs, I won't consider him any better than middle-of-the-pack when it comes to actual talent.
I suppose when it comes to fantasy, Holmes still has to be considered one of the top backs. I'd be an bunghole if I didn't draft him if given the chance, but I wouldn't be smiling as I did.
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Post by kammich on Jul 7, 2005 23:32:31 GMT -5
wait wait wait... are you trying to tell me that the cowboys o-line, and offense of the early 90's wasnt a system that churned out TD machines? granted, emmitt was the only one getting the majority of the carries, but that was a GREAT offensive line.
then, when he went to arizona, 2.8 ypc... hmm... noted, he was into his 30's then... but still
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Post by Kliquid on Jul 7, 2005 23:38:53 GMT -5
Emmitt Smith was still putting up decent numbers when he left Dallas. Yes, he declined, but not terribly... When Hambrick came in, he was supposedly Smith's "replacement." Hah. Good joke, Jerry Jones. There is no 'replacing' Emmitt Smith. His numbers declined with his age, as do most running back's numbers.
If you're telling me that Emmitt Smith is a system running back, excuse me while I laugh. People are so quick to use that as an excuse, but they forget the fact that a LOT of NFL defenders from Emmitt's day considered him to be one of the toughest to take down running backs. He didn't have Sanders' moves and he didn't have Bettis' power, but he had a lethal combination of above-average skills in both categories.
Priest Holmes, in my personal opinion, is practically the definition of a system runningback. The only other team that has put out better runningbacks has been Denver.
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