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Post by bababooey on May 10, 2016 7:34:28 GMT -5
I know this is weird. I like him as a wrestler but I'm pretty much over his character. Ambrose has become very one dimensional in my opinion, and I find him to be one of the least interesting people on the show.
They push the lunatic gimmick way too hard even though he's not really that crazy. Having messy hair, a raspy voice, and holding a microphone different doesn't make you crazy in my book. All of his feuds are basically the same. Ambrose picks a fight, gets his butt kicked and keeps getting up to get his butt kicked some more, he destroys something, gets a few hits in only to get his butt kicked again. Then in the blowoff he either wins and continues the feud or loses and moves on.
And people complain about Cena's 5 moves of doom, but what does Ambrose do? He's got Dirty Deeds, that stupid Nigel McGuinness clothesline (one of the dumbest moves ever invented), that elbow drop off the top rope, I think a drop kick, and then I'm blanking.
I think WWE really needs to go in a different direction with him because he's gotten really stale.
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Post by Infinite on May 10, 2016 8:01:29 GMT -5
He gets booked completely ing dreadfully
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Post by PJ on May 10, 2016 8:03:03 GMT -5
No, but that is because he was never a wrestler I found all that entertaining in the ring. Everytime I would start to find a match entertaining he would ruin it with that stupid clothesline or his catfight slap beatdown.
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Post by punksnotdead on May 10, 2016 8:06:10 GMT -5
I think the dying question we all need to be asking ourselves is what is Ambrose going to do when he can no longer hide his hairline from the world...
Ambrose has never been a super great work rate guy because he's a brawler. He is totally capable of having great matches, like anything he's ever done with Rollins or when he clicks with someone like Triple H, but he has largely a heel moveset that is very meat and potatoes on the regular. As far as the lunatic gimmick goes, I like it. I mean he has to walk a fine line between coming off crazy but also still being entertaining. The Ambrose Asylum stuff is honestly some of the first stuff in a long time that I think really works for him. I do think he's still trying to iron out what he's supposed to be on a week-to-week basis at times.
But yeah, he's booked like sh*t, roughly all the time. Seems like WWE's perception is that Ambrose's popularity can't be hurt by wins or loses. They did the same thing with CM Punk for years.
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Post by bababooey on May 10, 2016 8:15:08 GMT -5
I think he's a more than capable wrestler. The 5 moves of doom thing was more about people complaining that Cena only does 5 moves then praising Ambrose.
When the Shield was together Ambrose was my favorite. My main gripe with him other than losing all the time, is that they're always saying how crazy he is but he's fairly tame.
He's so much better when he's unpredictable. I feel like every week I can call his shots and explain it by "he's craaaazy." Like coming out and getting in Lesnar's face was crazy. Last night the moment Jericho said Ambrose wasn't there I knew Ambrose would sneak attack him.
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on May 10, 2016 8:32:43 GMT -5
I'm not over Ambrose just how he is used.
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Post by Sizzle on May 10, 2016 8:42:20 GMT -5
Nope. Always will be my current roster favorite now that Sandow is gone.
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Post by marino13 on May 10, 2016 9:18:18 GMT -5
I love the guy. And his match with Triple H at Road Block was fantastic. But since his WM dud with Lesnar, I've been sorta bored with him.
I can understand why he would have lost to Lesnar, but I expected much more of a fight out of Ambrose. I thought it was going to be his Austin at WM13 moment. Instead he was rag dolled around for ten minutes and then it was over in anti-climatic fashion. Then Ambrose moves onto Jericho. Who has been kinda stale lately IMO. And their feud isn't doing it for me.
His move-set worked for him for awhile. But Ambrose really does need to add a few more offensive moves to his repertoire. He's starting to get into that rut where all of his matches are the same. I still believe he can be a top guy eventually. But he needs to add some sizzle to that steak ASAP.
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Post by TurboEddie on May 10, 2016 9:40:03 GMT -5
I'm over Chris Jericho. He makes me lose interest in wrestlers I love by simply feuding with them.
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Post by k5 on May 10, 2016 9:46:59 GMT -5
that's kind of what happens when a character gets 0 development and stays the same thing. all characters have to evolve over time, but the wwe creative apparently disagrees.
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Post by Casty on May 10, 2016 9:49:57 GMT -5
I feel like he, as well as other former super fan favorites like Ziggler need a break from appearing all the time. I feel as if this could be fixed with a minor brand split, but that's just me.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 9:52:12 GMT -5
I think Nigel hit that Clothesline better than Ambrose, hell Kyle O'Reily hits it waayyy faster and it doesn't help with Cole calling it "The Wacky Line".
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Post by Tyler Black on May 10, 2016 9:57:49 GMT -5
Ambrose had all his momentum come to a screeching halt at mania in what should've been a star making performance. I mean, why even tease the chain saw or Barbie if he wasn't gonna be allowed to use it. I'm not saying Ambrose should've gone over, because he shouldn't. I love how Brocks been booked, but they could've at least let Ambrose put up a damn fight. As far as moves go, he has a lot more than 5, I just think he's not allowed to, or can't do some of his cooler moves to some of the bigger guys in wwe, so he just doesn't use it. The hook n ladder and knee trembler would be great for his current moveset, but I don't think he can hit the hook n ladder on some of wwe's bigger guys, and he stopped using the knee trembler when he got to the main roster
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Post by Bandalero on May 10, 2016 11:27:02 GMT -5
Ambrose is a natural heel. There's nothing worse for me than seeing a capable guy stuck in a gimmick. He was heelish in the Shield and should have been a breakout maniacle heel when they split. His entire babeface run has done nothing for me and that mid-rope rebound closeline looks so ing stupid. He's quite capable in the ring, just let him be the antagonist and see how money will skyrocket. face Rollins vs heel Ambrose is WM-worthy money.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on May 10, 2016 11:32:38 GMT -5
Nope I still love him but I'm biased as I've been a fan since his CZW days.
I'm not going to lie I think working Brock REALLY hurt his momentum because EVERYONE thought he was going to be the one to finally pin Brock but nope. Suplex City. Pin. Repeat.
The guy has had two periods of time now where he was getting the loudest reactions on the roster (The run with Seth in 2014 and The build to Mania 32) and both times they did NOTHING with him. It makes people think they have no faith in him which is not the case.
The problem is that they HAVE to get Roman over and they can't have Dean be in the way of that.
I love him as a face but his heel work is amazing. A heel run could get him to the WWE Championship. If they continue this abortion of a Reigns push he will never come close to the title.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on May 10, 2016 11:34:15 GMT -5
There are two things wrong with Ambrose. 1) The booking and 2) Roman Reigns.
Ambrose is booked like Bray Wyatt. A guy who looks like a threat and talks big but can't win a feud to save his life. The whole Lesnar match nearly killed him imo.
Now Ambrose is the most over guy on the roster and instead of the WWE cashing in on him they instead see him as a threat to Reigns which as a result he is booked like crap.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 11:47:57 GMT -5
I think the dying question we all need to be asking ourselves is what is Ambrose going to do when he can no longer hide his hairline from the world... Ambrose has never been a super great work rate guy because he's a brawler. He is totally capable of having great matches, like anything he's ever done with Rollins or when he clicks with someone like Triple H, but he has largely a heel moveset that is very meat and potatoes on the regular. As far as the lunatic gimmick goes, I like it. I mean he has to walk a fine line between coming off crazy but also still being entertaining. The Ambrose Asylum stuff is honestly some of the first stuff in a long time that I think really works for him. I do think he's still trying to iron out what he's supposed to be on a week-to-week basis at times. But yeah, he's booked like sh*t, roughly all the time. Seems like WWE's perception is that Ambrose's popularity can't be hurt by wins or loses. They did the same thing with CM Punk for years. Shave his head and grow a lunatic beard of course. To me Ambrose has kind of just "been there" since the Shield broke up. Reigns was obviously going to be their guy and Rollins ended up being the breakout star. Ambrose ended up being a good midcarder that could main event occasionally. It's to the point where I doubt he will ever be the man.
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Post by rowdy1971 on May 10, 2016 11:48:21 GMT -5
I'm way over him. He's a glorified jobber and yes, it has to do with the booking and also maybe a little with his "I don't give a crap" attitude he seems to have when he isn't in the ring. I wouldn't be surprised if in the next couple of years he gets released.
I'd like to see him with a MITB win, but it won't happen and he'll never be a world champ.
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Post by bababooey on May 10, 2016 11:49:25 GMT -5
I feel like if Ambrose had walked out of that tournament as champion things would be better for both he and Reigns.
The title could have either turned Ambrose heel as he desperately clung to the title, or Reigns could have become the heel that wanted his friend to do well but not better than him. Instead we go the Roman Empire, and both are left as capable guys that are booked horribly.
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Post by Sizzle on May 10, 2016 11:53:17 GMT -5
I'll say this: I would have rather had Ambrose in Rolling' spot than what we got.
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