codeezie
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Post by codeezie on Jun 1, 2016 2:29:25 GMT -5
Since Badd Blood 97's main event is one of my favorite matches of all time, and I am a huge Shawn Michaels fan, I considered it a necessity to own this one.
So I finally got it. I had to put my own kneepads and decals I bought on the figure (something I've complained about endlessly on this forum) which is annoying. But then I got curious, and decided to check out Badd Blood 97 on the Network. The entrance shoulder thingy isn't even close to what it looks like. It's great they included it but it's really not too detailed for being "Elite". The hairstyle doesn't appear to be the same either.
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-No HBK logo kneepads included
-Incredibly inaccurate entrance attire that restricts classic pose
-Wrong hairstyle
This is so frustrating. This figure has the potential to be EPIC (I still really like it, glad I bought). But it's just a bit underwhelming. I wish they would go the extra mile sometimes.
The network HBK frustrated me too. I had to make kneepads for that one as well. It's not like Mattel sells knee pads separately so acquiring them or robbing other figs of them is a pain. And why am I assembling parts and doing paint work? I paid Mattel for a figure, they aren't paying me to work for them! And what is up with the box art? Horrible!
It's bothersome because they take all the time to design the attire, sculpt the face and body, design the tattoos etc. So much work. And it looks SO cool. And then they cheap out with something simple like knee pads. The Bret Hart WM XXX is another major offender. No elbow pads! WTF!? He's wearing them right on the box!
It seems like a small issue but this stuff adds up. That's 3 separate pairs of pads I've had to acquire and paint and/or buy decals for (although my Bret pads are awesome). And that's only three that I've named so far.
Thoughts on E19 HBK or any other issues I've brought to the table?
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Post by Matt Tell on Jun 1, 2016 2:43:13 GMT -5
Don't like it? Don't buy it. Simple as that.
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Post by Matt Tell on Jun 1, 2016 2:52:15 GMT -5
>Calls me an idiot
>Complaining that his toy isn't perfect
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Post by Matt Tell on Jun 1, 2016 3:10:16 GMT -5
You're complaining about 3 details that weren't on a toy. You made a thread to complain. There has been countless threads on these same issues, it's been brought up many times.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 3:40:57 GMT -5
It could be a better figure. At least it came with the European title.
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Post by PJ on Jun 1, 2016 4:35:26 GMT -5
But the thing is you like the figure and purchased it as is...so Mattel did their job. Would you have liked more? Sure, but they put out a very good figure and kept it in the budget that they had to work with. The Entrance attire while not perfect is very nice, but there is no way they were going to make that super detailed with multi-colors and have a mesh look that is just not possible. Knee pads while they would be nice weren't a make or break deal. It would be more of an issue if he was a guy in trunks. But he did get the entrance attire and the title so knee pads probably weren't in the budget. Two knee pads on a thousands of figures in a production line do add up.
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Post by allabouthasbro on Jun 1, 2016 5:59:48 GMT -5
iv not replied to a post in ages, but i agree with the op 100%. once again the box art on the network hbk shows a 48yr old hbk with a 28yr old body! not good.
next thing, these clowns who say dont like, dont buy...
we put money into collecting these toys. hbk network is NOT standard elite price, its a higher price than a defining moment, so i expect accuracy. i was looking forward to this hbk to, but its a let down with a childrens ladder accessorie. elites are supposed to boast accurate ring attires. and for £25 ($40) this figure is way overpriced and under dressed. opis right, if mattel can make figures like the perfect ringside hbk, they can do better.
so dont like dont buy? ok. alot of people wont. hey, why try to show mattel where they are missing out on needed customers when we can all just blindly buy them without caring about quality or resemblence!
on a side note, couldnt find one network hbk that didnt have worn/damaged/thinning paint on the top of his boots. qc is sloppy these days, and do you know why? because all you people who defend this nonsence are helping raise mattels profits while buying figures for premium prices that should be sold in china as damaged/flawed. 8 network hbks and i left with NONE.
follow...the pigeons!
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Post by allabouthasbro on Jun 1, 2016 6:06:20 GMT -5
pj - you are saying if mattel added kneepads they would have to do it to thousands of figures. are you suggesting we should maybe do without kneepads?
thats a strange way to look at it. like saying make a batman figure but dont make the cape, as it would cost alot to make thousands of capes. in order to maintain the elite figure linea, the must continue the authentic ring attire, and making so many mistakes on one figure is a worrying prospect for the future...
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Post by Mongo Bears on Jun 1, 2016 6:11:01 GMT -5
Quality is going downhill.
I'm not as picky as some here about accuracy, but the bad paint apps are getting to be a problem for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 6:49:30 GMT -5
No knee pads and no chest hair on it kinda pissed me off. But I let it slide because elite 19 was one of the best overall sets to date.
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Post by PJ on Jun 1, 2016 7:00:00 GMT -5
pj - you are saying if mattel added kneepads they would have to do it to thousands of figures. are you suggesting we should maybe do without kneepads? thats a strange way to look at it. like saying make a batman figure but dont make the cape, as it would cost alot to make thousands of capes. in order to maintain the elite figure linea, the must continue the authentic ring attire, and making so many mistakes on one figure is a worrying prospect for the future... No I am saying they gave us a title and entrance attire with that figure. So that figure reached the limits of the budget. People bitch about a figure not having a pair of kneepads saying it is only a pair of knee pads. But it isn't a pair of knee pads it is a pair of knee pads to thousands of that figure which adds up especially when the budget also has to account for the materiels, electricity to run the machines as well as the payroll to make those kneepads. Should they give us knee pads and not paint the back of the attires like Jakks used to do? It is not like HBK is a Wrestler in trunks with bare legs. If they didn't give knee pads to a guy like Bryan it would be a different story, but not giving them to a guy in long tights isn't the end of the world. And who is paying DM price on the Network figures? They are $19.99. |
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Post by allabouthasbro on Jun 1, 2016 7:23:49 GMT -5
pj - every singleperson in theuk is payong more for network figures than defining moments. im surprised you didnt check that out before replying. go to the toys r us uk website, defining moments £22.99 network figures £24.99. so to answer your question....everyone in the uk!
ok, hands up, the e19 figure was great, but the new network ones only accessorie looks like it was made for the jakks bca line. its a mess, and for nearly $40....thats not a good thing....thats...a bad thing
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Post by PJ on Jun 1, 2016 7:50:53 GMT -5
pj - every singleperson in theuk is payong more for network figures than defining moments. im surprised you didnt check that out before replying. go to the toys r us uk website, defining moments £22.99 network figures £24.99. so to answer your question....everyone in the uk! ok, hands up, the e19 figure was great, but the new network ones only accessorie looks like it was made for the jakks bca line. its a mess, and for nearly $40....thats not a good thing....thats...a bad thing It shouldn't be. It should the same price as a regular Elite. That is what it is here in the US. Are your Elites more than your DM in the UK? Sounds like the TRU UK site is charging the wrong price which is not Mattel's fault. The figure is bugeted as a regular Elite not a DM. |
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Post by braaaaaaaapp on Jun 1, 2016 8:30:15 GMT -5
Honestly, E19 Michaels is one of my all time favorite figures.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jun 1, 2016 9:12:36 GMT -5
I'm with you man. They were so close to perfect on the WMXXX HBK had they gone with the knee pads. I can understand certain things, like not getting painted entrance attire for that WM14 figure, but stuff like knee pads, when we saw them do it on the Entrance Greats HBK, is ridiculous. Elbow and knee pads aren't  ing accessories. They're apart of the attire. Mattel needs to include them, period. I would 100% rather have had knee pads on the E19 HBK than half of his entrance attire, which never made any sense to include if they couldn't make the whole entrance attire anyway. The E19 figure doesn't have chest hair either, for the record. It's not going to change. Mattel is cutting more corners than ever before. We're not going to go backwards in time. The Network HBK has one of the worst headscans they've ever put out, which we said the first time they released it on that AWFUL Royal Rumble Heritage figure. The boots are wrong, there are no knee pads, and the hair doesn't even completely touch the forehead on most of the figures I've seen. But yay for no standards and nostalgia. I had that BCA HBK too, doesn't change the fact it's 2016 and that figure could be so much better. I'm glad we got the attire. That's my favorite match of all time. That being said, it's a half complete figure as far as I'm concerned. I prefer the WM14 HBK to that figure by a large margin even though I don't like that match anywhere near as much as the HIAC match. That's just how it goes. It's like all the people who were begging for a Bret Hart attire CM Punk and then Mattel put it out as a Basic haha. They're just a big budget toy company that honestly doesn't care about getting it right as long as they're making the money. I think Bill cares about getting it right, to a very large degree, but he jumps through his own hoops with budget and approvals from WWE and manufacturing. We have one guy on our team and everyone else is worried about profitability. |
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Post by One Punch Reigns on Jun 1, 2016 9:26:49 GMT -5
Honestly this is my 3rd favorite HBK figure behind the RSC and Rockers figure. The lack of chest hair is annoying but not a dealbreaker, and you could fudge this as a Screwjob HBK or even as early as 1996 since he had a similar look at the time.
Maybe it's the fact I'm more forgiving thanks to not being a stickler on 100% accuracy, but I really enjoy this figure and can see why it's sought after.
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Post by kgchampion on Jun 1, 2016 9:45:51 GMT -5
pj - every singleperson in theuk is payong more for network figures than defining moments. im surprised you didnt check that out before replying. go to the toys r us uk website, defining moments £22.99 network figures £24.99. so to answer your question....everyone in the uk! ok, hands up, the e19 figure was great, but the new network ones only accessorie looks like it was made for the jakks bca line. its a mess, and for nearly $40....thats not a good thing....thats...a bad thing lol wut? How dare we not take the time to find out what country you live in and then google the price of figures in an area most of us don't live in. HOW DARE WE?!!?!!?!?!?!111 Sorry, bro. Mattel just sets the MSRP. That's the manufacturer's suggested retail price. They have no control over retailers jacking up the price. |
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Jun 1, 2016 10:10:50 GMT -5
I'm sure Bill would add meta chest hair, kneepads, and all the logos and make every entrance attire out of cloth and leather if he could. But he can't. He just realistically can't. So we have to enjoy the cloth accessories and colorful attire we can get, because to most of the people in charge of this line, most of them above Bill on the corporate ladder, only care about the money it's drawing
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Post by RybackV1 on Jun 1, 2016 10:43:31 GMT -5
They don't put Kneepads because they would cover over the detail they painted on that part of his attire. Whether it be hearts or zebra detail.
RSC ex. got Kneepads, likely only because it's flat white underneath.
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