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Post by marino13 on Jun 5, 2016 10:25:52 GMT -5
Rumor is Brock held Vince up at WM for more money. Vince compromised and signed off on the UFC fight. And that is why the Dean/Brock match was a dud. Because Brock didn't want to risk injury.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Jun 5, 2016 10:53:01 GMT -5
Rumor is Brock held Vince up at WM for more money. Vince compromised and signed off on the UFC fight. And that is why the Dena/Brock match was a dud. Because Brock didn't want to risk injury. I hope that's not the case. I really hope that isn't true, as it would be disgraceful of Brock. He catches a lot of deserved flack, but I would've given him more credit at this point. He really should be grateful for the position he's in. I'm inclined to believe it isn't, because if I were Vince I'd give the match to Ambrose in that situation. They don't need Brock that badly, and as averse to making Ambrose a big star as he may be, Vince has never been one to just take it up the @$$ like that, I sincerely hope things haven't changed.
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on Jun 5, 2016 11:26:32 GMT -5
Suplex City was getting tiresome anyway but good luck to him.
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Post by The Dave on Jun 5, 2016 11:42:40 GMT -5
Rumor is Brock held Vince up at WM for more money. Vince compromised and signed off on the UFC fight. And that is why the Dena/Brock match was a dud. Because Brock didn't want to risk injury. I hated that Ambrose/Cena tag team.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2016 11:46:10 GMT -5
Rumor is Brock held Vince up at WM for more money. Vince compromised and signed off on the UFC fight. And that is why the Dena/Brock match was a dud. Because Brock didn't want to risk injury. I can't remember the podcast, but they were talking about how Dean and Brock were both pushing for more at Mania. Apparently Brock wanted to take some crazy bumps to put over Ambrose since Brock was going over. Supposedly the match was cut short a good 10 minutes.
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Post by marino13 on Jun 5, 2016 12:00:49 GMT -5
Rumor is Brock held Vince up at WM for more money. Vince compromised and signed off on the UFC fight. And that is why the Dena/Brock match was a dud. Because Brock didn't want to risk injury. I hated that Ambrose/Cena tag team. I should trademark that immediately.
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Post by HHH316 on Jun 5, 2016 13:26:06 GMT -5
If I were Vince, I would have made the deal simple: I'll give you Lesnar for UFC 200, you give me Rousey for WM. Both sides get what they want.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Jun 5, 2016 15:50:50 GMT -5
What is lesnar looses? How is that gonna effect his WWE booking, they've put a lot into making Lesnar look unbeatable (breaking the streak, wiping Cena out, never getting pinned for the WWE title) he goes back to UFC and loses doesn't that make WWE superstars look weak?
Or is UFC gonna pit lesnar against someone who they know he can beat. Do UFC do squash matches? I dunno buy they kinda pride theirselves on not being scripted or fixed so?
I really don't get WWE'S logic here it seems to me they've put so much work into lesnar it almost seems like he has WWE by the balls, at least if someone beats Lesnar theyD be instant main event status / the next big thing or whatever. But it seems like Lesnar is extorting money out of them / looking for a reason to leave or bully WWE into doing things his way. Lesnar has already stated he's only here for the money, I'd love to know what kind of back stage politics are going on.
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Post by Rob on Jun 5, 2016 16:28:05 GMT -5
What is lesnar looses? How is that gonna effect his WWE booking, they've put a lot into making Lesnar look unbeatable (breaking the streak, wiping Cena out, never getting pinned for the WWE title) he goes back to UFC and loses doesn't that make WWE superstars look weak? Or is UFC gonna pit lesnar against someone who they know he can beat. Do UFC do squash matches? I dunno buy they kinda pride theirselves on not being scripted or fixed so? I really don't get WWE'S logic here it seems to me they've put so much work into lesnar it almost seems like he has WWE by the balls, at least if someone beats Lesnar theyD be instant main event status / the next big thing or whatever. But it seems like Lesnar is extorting money out of them / looking for a reason to leave or bully WWE into doing things his way. Lesnar has already stated he's only here for the money, I'd love to know what kind of back stage politics are going on. Hell yeah it makes WWE look pathetic. They have had Lesnar steam roll WWE's greatest superstars without even breaking a sweat. Then he goes to UFC for one night and gets his ass kicked in the 1st round against some mediocre fighter, That would make WWE look absolutely amateur as , Especially if they have him come back and continue on like nothing happened. And like someone else said here, And if Lesnar wins the fight, Lesnar will start to develop another ego thinking he could hang in UFC again. Which will lead to him returning to UFC. Either way WWE loses.
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Post by Escape The Rules on Jun 5, 2016 16:30:05 GMT -5
I'm just glad he's not leaving WWE.
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Post by LA Times on Jun 5, 2016 16:59:20 GMT -5
What is lesnar looses? How is that gonna effect his WWE booking, they've put a lot into making Lesnar look unbeatable (breaking the streak, wiping Cena out, never getting pinned for the WWE title) he goes back to UFC and loses doesn't that make WWE superstars look weak? Or is UFC gonna pit lesnar against someone who they know he can beat. Do UFC do squash matches? I dunno buy they kinda pride theirselves on not being scripted or fixed so? I really don't get WWE'S logic here it seems to me they've put so much work into lesnar it almost seems like he has WWE by the balls, at least if someone beats Lesnar theyD be instant main event status / the next big thing or whatever. But it seems like Lesnar is extorting money out of them / looking for a reason to leave or bully WWE into doing things his way. Lesnar has already stated he's only here for the money, I'd love to know what kind of back stage politics are going on. Hell yeah it makes WWE look pathetic. They have had Lesnar steam roll WWE's greatest superstars without even breaking a sweat. Then he goes to UFC for one night and gets his ass kicked in the 1st round against some mediocre fighter, That would make WWE look absolutely amateur as , Especially if they have him come back and continue on like nothing happened. And like someone else said here, And if Lesnar wins the fight, Lesnar will start to develop another ego thinking he could hang in UFC again. Which will lead to him returning to UFC. Either way WWE loses. Maybe this could lead to other WWE wrestlers going to the UFC, getting fights like The Miz vs Michael Bisping, Stephanie McMahon vs Miesha Tate, Big Cass vs Stefan Struve, Karl Anderson vs Anderson Silva, Big E vs Rumble Johnson and beating the $#!+ out of those "ultimate fighters".
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Post by Unpleasant Expand on Jun 5, 2016 17:03:38 GMT -5
Sounds like UFC 200 is just like Mania. Bringing in former stars instead of building it around the young talent you have.
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Post by The Dave on Jun 5, 2016 17:47:50 GMT -5
For me, I don't feel as though Brock should have WWE by the tenders at this point. I'm a big Lesnar fan, and even to me it feels as though Brock has lost some of what made him special and I don't think WWE NEEDS to throw trucks of money at him anymore or bend to his will (if this is what is even happening). Sure I like watching him crush people but the shock value of it all has kinda worn off. His special attraction appeal has sort of waned a bit in my eyes. I think this situation benefits UFC much more than WWE given that he hasn't been there in so long. Plus, as others have said, if he goes and loses then what? That kills some of specialness in WWE when he returns.
I'd still like to see him hold MITB. Does he need it? Not at all, but to know he has it and could actually appear with it at any random time would get me interested again. Watching the champion dump in his pants when Brock's music hit would be entertaining. Still like Brock, just needs to be freshened up a bit.
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Post by marino13 on Jun 5, 2016 17:50:40 GMT -5
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Post by cordless2016 on Jun 5, 2016 18:18:59 GMT -5
What is lesnar looses? How is that gonna effect his WWE booking, they've put a lot into making Lesnar look unbeatable (breaking the streak, wiping Cena out, never getting pinned for the WWE title) he goes back to UFC and loses doesn't that make WWE superstars look weak? Or is UFC gonna pit lesnar against someone who they know he can beat. Do UFC do squash matches? I dunno buy they kinda pride theirselves on not being scripted or fixed so? I really don't get WWE'S logic here it seems to me they've put so much work into lesnar it almost seems like he has WWE by the balls, at least if someone beats Lesnar theyD be instant main event status / the next big thing or whatever. But it seems like Lesnar is extorting money out of them / looking for a reason to leave or bully WWE into doing things his way. Lesnar has already stated he's only here for the money, I'd love to know what kind of back stage politics are going on. Hell yeah it makes WWE look pathetic. They have had Lesnar steam roll WWE's greatest superstars without even breaking a sweat. Then he goes to UFC for one night and gets his ass kicked in the 1st round against some mediocre fighter, That would make WWE look absolutely amateur as , Especially if they have him come back and continue on like nothing happened. And like someone else said here, And if Lesnar wins the fight, Lesnar will start to develop another ego thinking he could hang in UFC again. Which will lead to him returning to UFC. Either way WWE loses. This is the WWE. They're notorious for treating their fans like idiots. If Lesnar looses I guarantee that they'd act like noting happened.
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Post by Kollector_Kombat on Jun 5, 2016 20:11:29 GMT -5
Hell yeah it makes WWE look pathetic. They have had Lesnar steam roll WWE's greatest superstars without even breaking a sweat. Then he goes to UFC for one night and gets his ass kicked in the 1st round against some mediocre fighter, That would make WWE look absolutely amateur as , Especially if they have him come back and continue on like nothing happened. And like someone else said here, And if Lesnar wins the fight, Lesnar will start to develop another ego thinking he could hang in UFC again. Which will lead to him returning to UFC. Either way WWE loses. Maybe this could lead to other WWE wrestlers going to the UFC, getting fights like The Miz vs Michael Bisping, Stephanie McMahon vs Miesha Tate, Big Cass vs Stefan Struve, Karl Anderson vs Anderson Silva, Big E vs Rumble Johnson and beating the $#!+ out of those "ultimate fighters". No offense, but that'd be dumb. What's the reasoning behind them facing each other other than Miz and Bisping having a link to Hollywood. McMahon vs Tate because they're women I'm assuming, Struve vs Cass because they're tall, If you're going that route make him go against Big Show. Anderson vs Anderson...because they're Andersons? And E vs Rumble because they're scary lookin black dudes? I doubt anything to that extent would happen. Most that happens is either UFC lends stars like there's (Rousey and McGregor) cut a promo or have a short match at Mania. No way Dana would let that many fighters go to WWE for something like that.
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Post by k5 on Jun 6, 2016 0:39:47 GMT -5
that's one bonus for wwe. i gotta say, as a wrestling fan it's an exciting notion to know that the wwe and the ufc are in communication to the degree that they're exchanging talent and promoting one another's events. this could lead to some interesting developments in crossovers. punk has gotta be like wtf
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Post by bad guy™ on Jun 6, 2016 1:36:34 GMT -5
that's one bonus for wwe. i gotta say, as a wrestling fan it's an exciting notion to know that the wwe and the ufc are in communication to the degree that they're exchanging talent and promoting one another's events. this could lead to some interesting developments in crossovers. punk has gotta be like wtf "Dammit Dana I left WWE to come to you and now you're working with WWE? And what? You're going to expect me to make a crossover appearance? it. I'm going to the NFL." **Goodell decides to acknowledge the XFL for some god forsaken reason** "GOD DAMMIT."
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Post by 👑🇵🇭⭐️ on Jun 6, 2016 8:10:07 GMT -5
This would be a great opportunity for the WWE to do some crossover promotion here!! Here’s how I would lay out the next few weeks.
I would have Brock Lesnar added to the Money In The Bank Ladder match and have that match open the show. Do you already see where I’m going with this?? I’d have Brock Lesnar win the Gold Briefcase and hold it until the next American holiday. On the 4th of July, I’d have Brock Lesnar cash in on Roman Reigns and take the Big W. 5 days later, the WWE World Heavyweight Champion is in the Octagon. Have him face UFC World Heavyweight Champion, Stipe Miocic, in a Champion vs. Champion match. It would have to be non-Title of course, due to short notice, or is it?? I can picture Brock Lesnar walking into Raw on July 11th as the Undisputed Ultimate World Fighting and Wrestling Entertainment Champion!!
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jun 6, 2016 8:42:04 GMT -5
38 years old, having battled diverticulitis, and having not been in the octogon for 5 years is probably not the smartest time to get back into MMA, but the pay day is probably too big for Brock to pass up, and he must know that his opponent is not going to be anybody anyone has ever heard of, so it should be Brock just pummeling somebody quickly.
Would be the worst thing ever for WWE if Brock gets hurt at UFC 200 and has to miss SummerSlam. WWE had better get something in return from UFC for this....and I'm talking somebody they can actually use in a MATCH. If this is the receipt for Rousey at WM31, then it wasn't worth it. She needs to have an actual MATCH in WWE for this to be even. She wasn't even advertised for WM31, so WWE didn't make any money off of that. Brock is being billed for UFC 200 so UFC is going to make a ton of money off of Brock.
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