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Post by havoc7179 on Jun 6, 2016 10:44:40 GMT -5
I was talking to some friends, and this topic was eventually brought up in the conversation.
I'm having a hard time believing that someone who's told that he has 9 months recovery time, can be 100% in under 5 months. Could it have been a misdiagnosis? Could it have not been as severe as first thought? All are within the realm of possibilities, but with WWE being extra extra cautious with its performers, I can't see them risking bad PR and having their MARQUEE player severely injured/crippled just because they need some name recognition. But a fake injury they could run with--especially if Cena isn't 100%.
What if this angle with Cena and the Club is meant to write Cena off for some time, and re-establish the Club as a force? The fantasy match between AJ and Cena was setup out of the blue and announced on WWE.com. With a big match, you would think there would be some sort of contract signing, or announcement on Raw. What if the idea is that AJ and the Club take out Cena this week or at MITB? One "BOTCHED" Styles Clash at the start of the match is all it takes. AJ gets a clean pin over Cena, and Cena feigns injury and is written off again until he can be 100%. AJ is now a huge heel presence. Styles Clash is fixed. Club is now dominant. Summer of Club is established. (Alternatively, we get a 5* match, AJ wins, and AJ proceeds to injure Cena after the match).
Cena comes back, AJ and him trade pins.
We know AJ is going to lose. Heels typically don't come out of big feuds victorious in this era unless they are a champion or Shield. So, why not try something new? Makes the dream match happen either at a big PPV as opposed to MITB because of Cena's road to recovery. Freshens Cena's character a bit too.
So basically, would WWE ever run an injury angle with Cena? Could this be it? This could be similar to when he re-appeared at this past Mania. Healthy enough to dole out a AA, but not enough to compete. So, WWE just uses him as a prop to establish someone else.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 10:47:13 GMT -5
They aren't going to have their top draw off of TV again by choice weeks after his return.
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Post by havoc7179 on Jun 6, 2016 10:49:50 GMT -5
They aren't going to have their top draw off of TV again by choice weeks after his return. I agree, but what if he really isn't healthy to compete? This entire thing could just be a rouse. |
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Post by k5 on Jun 6, 2016 11:03:07 GMT -5
i've said this a million times before, but i will say it again: steroids and hgh. both speed up recovery time in people to near inhuman levels. both were clearly used by john cena in his former bodybuilding career and to maintain his size/magically get a bit larger around each wrestlemania.
they most certainly would've had him active and able for wrestlemania if they could've...don't forget that until shane showed up people were calling it one of the worst looking cards ever for a wm.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jun 6, 2016 11:20:21 GMT -5
i've said this a million times before, but i will say it again: steroids and hgh. both speed up recovery time in people to near inhuman levels. both were clearly used by john cena in his former bodybuilding career and to maintain his size/magically get a bit larger around each wrestlemania. they most certainly would've had him active and able for wrestlemania if they could've...don't forget that until shane showed up people were calling it one of the worst looking cards ever for a wm. HGH for sure. There's no way possible he could've come back from that neck injury years ago in the time that he did without using HGH or some other sort of substance. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 11:20:27 GMT -5
They aren't going to have their top draw off of TV again by choice weeks after his return. I agree, but what if he really isn't healthy to compete? This entire thing could just be a rouse. Eh. I think at his age, Cena is smart enough to know his limits and when he should come back. |
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jun 6, 2016 11:43:10 GMT -5
Why would the WWE want to injure Kurt Angle for John Cena??
Kurt Angle isn't even in the WWE!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 12:30:31 GMT -5
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Post by John Zero on Jun 6, 2016 12:40:06 GMT -5
I always guessed that they say he'll be out for a longer amount of time than he really will be. Realistically, he's out for 5 months, but WWE tells you that he'll be out for 9. That way, when he comes back, "early", we're all supposed to be amazed.
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Post by wrestlingfan20 on Jun 6, 2016 12:41:05 GMT -5
Didn't think of that. Could kinda make sense though. I saw somewhere about a month ago that he's only 70% ready. But pretty sure they need him for brand extension.
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Post by Rob on Jun 6, 2016 13:34:13 GMT -5
There is definitely something fishy about his recovery times. His RR return, Ill give a pass. Dude was 31ish and in his prime. Now he is knocking on 40s door and i'm having a hard time believing he is returning from major injuries in half the time without using something.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jun 6, 2016 13:38:15 GMT -5
John Cena isn't going to be around much longer. He's clearly more interested in movies and tv shows in recent years. Word is he wants to replace Michael Strahan as the co-host with Kelly Ripa.
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Post by k5 on Jun 6, 2016 13:53:51 GMT -5
only shawn michaels gets to fake injuries for time off.  |
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Post by sitruC on Jun 6, 2016 14:00:44 GMT -5
I think they more so say the maximum time off usually rather than the minimum.
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Post by KPnDC on Jun 6, 2016 14:50:05 GMT -5
I'm not sure what Cena is doing. It's crazy to think how quickly he comes back. I remember a few older wrestlers questioning why he came back so fast from the pec tear a few years ago when his spot wouldn't be in jeopardy.
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Post by havoc7179 on Jun 6, 2016 15:01:11 GMT -5
What some people have said about Cena's HGH and steriod use makes me think that this is more likely an angle. First, in promoting Raw, the focus has been on the Club. Yes, they mention the Cenation, but there are articles and one interview with AJ about his match. Cena ideally should be promoting it too.
Second, I would imagine that prolonged use of HGH would make it harder to come back from injuries. There's only so much science can do before it becomes a nullity, and its possible, maybe even probable, that Cena has reached that point where--if he really has used this stuff--the HGH is ineffective and has possibly caused damage to his body's natural recovery system.
But, there was that one post here where one commentator said that they probably give the highest, worst case scenario time frame. That also makes sense too.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 16:19:34 GMT -5
In terms of his recovery rate, HGH has to be involved.
What people don't realise is how much time he has spent physically rehabilitating. That's a problem worldwide, the reason people recover slow is because people do not rehab correctly, so his expected return of 9 months or whatever it was, is for general population who do their required therapy once maybe twice a week not a super genetic athlete who puts hours of his day into recovery and as a minimum is on HGH.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 16:29:13 GMT -5
What some people have said about Cena's HGH and steriod use makes me think that this is more likely an angle. First, in promoting Raw, the focus has been on the Club. Yes, they mention the Cenation, but there are articles and one interview with AJ about his match. Cena ideally should be promoting it too. Second, I would imagine that prolonged use of HGH would make it harder to come back from injuries. There's only so much science can do before it becomes a nullity, and its possible, maybe even probable, that Cena has reached that point where--if he really has used this stuff--the HGH is ineffective and has possibly caused damage to his body's natural recovery system. But, there was that one post here where one commentator said that they probably give the highest, worst case scenario time frame. That also makes sense too. When it comes to HGH/steroids, he will cycle them, to ensure that he doesn't become reliant on either. HGH takes a fair bit of time before its effective anyway, say at least 4-8 weeks on it before noticing anything. **Sorry for double post |
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Post by Sleazyness on Jun 6, 2016 17:26:34 GMT -5
I always guessed that they say he'll be out for a longer amount of time than he really will be. Realistically, he's out for 5 months, but WWE tells you that he'll be out for 9. That way, when he comes back, "early", we're all supposed to be amazed. This. |
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Post by bige95 on Jun 6, 2016 17:42:22 GMT -5
The 9 month is probably realisticly what it should be...i mean i had shoulder surgery 2 month ago and Im not supposed to even lift anything over head for 6 months...but another thing to realise is that he has the best doctors and rehab that money can buy...much better than what most people would have...and he probably was doing therapy every day to get ready when i only do it 3 times a week...while hgh may be involved it doesnt mean he didnt do everything possible to get back early...and its definatley not an angle
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