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Post by TurboEddie on Jul 7, 2016 21:33:12 GMT -5
I think it will turn out okay.
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Jul 7, 2016 21:36:56 GMT -5
How damn cool would it be to see the F5 countered into the RKO lol
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 21:42:13 GMT -5
How damn cool would it be to see the F5 countered into the RKO lol That would be cool. Knowing Orton if he did counter it he would use a European uppercut.
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Post by Booger Red on Jul 7, 2016 21:52:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2016 5:01:46 GMT -5
How bloody marvelous.
It's a main event we've never had, which offers a fresh match for both Brock and Orton. A genuine main event with a big recognisable opponent to pair with Brocks big main event comeback in UFC.
They've nailed it there, frankly. I know people had concerns about Brock working both shows, and there is bound to be detractors who complain he should be facing somebody else.
Frankly this had to happen to avoid Brock either getting shoehorned into the Title scene, or having a 5000th rematch with Cena.
And personally I've harboured to see this main event for over 10 years so they've well and truly signed me up for the show. I can't wait!
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jul 8, 2016 7:04:46 GMT -5
Seriously though if Orton dislocated his shoulder taking out the trash how will he survive a match with Brock Lesnar?
Putting that aside this match needs to be hyped like crazy because it's 2 guys who debut at the same time and will clash for the first time 14 years later.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jul 8, 2016 13:34:18 GMT -5
I'm not hyped about this match at all. I mean, maybe I would be if there was an actual feud and some build behind it, but it seems like the entire basis of this match is to have it just because it's a dream match. That's incredibly lame. As I said before, I don't understand why they couldn't have come up with an actual idea to have a feud between the two other than just randomly announcing that the match will be taking place. They couldn't have hyped Orton's return, then have Heyman interrupt him and just have it progress from there?
Also, this makes it incredibly obvious that Lesnar is winning at SummerSlam. Orton is one of the few guys on the roster who has nothing to gain or lose from this match. Losing to Lesnar does nothing to hurt his career.
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Post by J12 on Jul 8, 2016 14:57:23 GMT -5
I'm not hyped about this match at all. I mean, maybe I would be if there was an actual feud and some build behind it, but it seems like the entire basis of this match is to have it just because it's a dream match. That's incredibly lame. As I said before, I don't understand why they couldn't have come up with an actual idea to have a feud between the two other than just randomly announcing that the match will be taking place. They couldn't have hyped Orton's return, then have Heyman interrupt him and just have it progress from there? Also, this makes it incredibly obvious that Lesnar is winning at SummerSlam. Orton is one of the few guys on the roster who has nothing to gain or lose from this match. Losing to Lesnar does nothing to hurt his career. I really disliked the idea of announcing the match cold, and I still do, to some extent, though I did hear an argument for why they may be doing it this way. It serves a couple of purposes. One, it states, definitively, that Brock Lesnar will be at Summerslam. Of course, they've said this before, but now he's got a match, a tangible opponent. It tells Brock (and the public) that they have something for him to do. So, if Brock wins on Saturday and starts getting ideas regarding his future with UFC, it's already public knowledge that he needs to go and honor this specific commitment first. It's more "real" because he has a booked match rather than a booked appearance. It may draw additional attention to Summerslam over the next couple of days. It seems miniscule, but WWE loves publicity, and being associated with hot brands/events. Some sports or entertainment website that wouldn't normally give attention to WWE may be more apt to plug Brock's next fight (in this case, against Orton) rather than just say "hey, you can see Brock next month at WWE Summerslam." Again, it's minor, but WWE has been known to think about these things. It also, to some extent, makes Orton a hot commodity coming in. People do want to see this match, and Randy is a notoriously monotonous and cold character. It's best to capitalize now, when there's some buzz, than weeks into his return when he's settled back into things and becomes just another guy on the roster again. On the flip side, though, there's also the very real possibility that Vince sat in a creative meeting on Monday and said, "what are we gonna do with Brock at Summerslam?" A writer said, "Well, Randy is ready to go." And Vince said, "Is that it? Alright, well, let's announce it" and then Smackdown was chosen because they want to get into the habit of promoting it with the split coming. WWE should be flying Orton out to Vegas to sit cageside at UFC 200. That type of guerilla build would at least generate a certain level of interest. Who knows, maybe they will. I doubt it, though.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Jul 8, 2016 15:03:17 GMT -5
I'm not hyped about this match at all. I mean, maybe I would be if there was an actual feud and some build behind it, but it seems like the entire basis of this match is to have it just because it's a dream match. That's incredibly lame. As I said before, I don't understand why they couldn't have come up with an actual idea to have a feud between the two other than just randomly announcing that the match will be taking place. They couldn't have hyped Orton's return, then have Heyman interrupt him and just have it progress from there? Also, this makes it incredibly obvious that Lesnar is winning at SummerSlam. Orton is one of the few guys on the roster who has nothing to gain or lose from this match. Losing to Lesnar does nothing to hurt his career. You know that's what they did with Rock and Cena right? There was no build. The two were just in the ring and were like "let's have a match a year from now" and they built it up from there. The same with this. Lesnar and Orton are gonna have a match now, so they go from there and build it up each week.
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Post by J12 on Jul 8, 2016 15:06:34 GMT -5
I'm not hyped about this match at all. I mean, maybe I would be if there was an actual feud and some build behind it, but it seems like the entire basis of this match is to have it just because it's a dream match. That's incredibly lame. As I said before, I don't understand why they couldn't have come up with an actual idea to have a feud between the two other than just randomly announcing that the match will be taking place. They couldn't have hyped Orton's return, then have Heyman interrupt him and just have it progress from there? Also, this makes it incredibly obvious that Lesnar is winning at SummerSlam. Orton is one of the few guys on the roster who has nothing to gain or lose from this match. Losing to Lesnar does nothing to hurt his career. You know that's what they did with Rock and Cena right? There was no build. The two were just in the ring and were like "let's have a match a year from now" and they built it up from there. The same with this. Lesnar and Orton are gonna have a match now, so they go from there and build it up each week. Not really. The Rock showed up in February and the thing with Cena started almost right away. Then he was heavily involved in the main event of Wrestlemania 27, and they booked the match the following night. The only thing that was really non-traditional about that build was that they announced the match a year in advance. The seeds were already planted, they didn't announce it cold like Orton/Lesnar. To my knowledge, Brock and Randy haven't been anywhere near each other in well over a decade.
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Post by marino13 on Jul 8, 2016 15:27:22 GMT -5
It's something new, a fresh opponent, so I'll take it. I'm sure WWE wanted to get the news out so they can piggyback off of Brock's fight this weekend. Wouldn't surprise me if UFC promotes it. Casual wrestling fans watching UFC who may not know who some of the new guys are, may be like "Oh remember Orton. I like Brock. This could be good!"
That's why someone like Orton actually makes sense.
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Post by Darkhawk on Jul 8, 2016 16:38:06 GMT -5
About damn time Randy Orton faces Brock Lesnar, I'm excited for this rival!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2016 16:46:50 GMT -5
I've been waiting for this match since brock came back four years ago! I'm a little disappointed by there being no reason/build and just being like here you go guys, two huge superstars face off because, well because.
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Post by Escape The Rules on Jul 8, 2016 17:04:13 GMT -5
One of the very few dream matches left in my opinion. I've been waiting years for this match, very excited for it! I'm seeing all the other suggestions from people online such as Kevin Owens, Cesaro, Finn Balor, Bray Wyatt. No thanks. There's not one name there that interests me. None of those guys are marquee names in my opinion. Orton and Lesnar came up at the same time 14 years ago and yet they only faced each other one time and that was in their rookie year. It's very rare for two guys to come up at the same time in the same company and yet and not cross paths for 14 years. This is a big money match and I'm looking forward to it. Battleground, roll on SummerSlam!
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Post by johnnyaustin21 on Jul 8, 2016 17:20:29 GMT -5
I haven't been a fan of Orton is probably a decade or so,think he's extremely stale and also haven't been the biggest fan of the return run from Brock Lesnar as Mr.MMA.However this match does interest me a lot.Its a big time match up and main event putting two of the biggest stars made in the post attitude era in there first big time one on one encounter on a huge stage like SummerSlam.I hope to go a different rout with the build and have basically video packages only for the two build up the match and feud and that they never cross paths or come face to face until SummerSlam.
This was one of the few big time match ups/"Dream Matches" that the WWE had left to offer,I just wish it would have been saved for next years Wrestlemania.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jul 8, 2016 19:35:07 GMT -5
I'm not hyped about this match at all. I mean, maybe I would be if there was an actual feud and some build behind it, but it seems like the entire basis of this match is to have it just because it's a dream match. That's incredibly lame. As I said before, I don't understand why they couldn't have come up with an actual idea to have a feud between the two other than just randomly announcing that the match will be taking place. They couldn't have hyped Orton's return, then have Heyman interrupt him and just have it progress from there? Also, this makes it incredibly obvious that Lesnar is winning at SummerSlam. Orton is one of the few guys on the roster who has nothing to gain or lose from this match. Losing to Lesnar does nothing to hurt his career. You know that's what they did with Rock and Cena right? There was no build. The two were just in the ring and were like "let's have a match a year from now" and they built it up from there. The same with this. Lesnar and Orton are gonna have a match now, so they go from there and build it up each week. They already had a feud set in place from the night Rock returned and called Cena out about the comments he made in some interview about not respecting The Rock for leaving and not coming back.
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Post by Joey Cush on Jul 8, 2016 19:43:13 GMT -5
I'm not hyped about this match at all. I mean, maybe I would be if there was an actual feud and some build behind it, but it seems like the entire basis of this match is to have it just because it's a dream match. That's incredibly lame. As I said before, I don't understand why they couldn't have come up with an actual idea to have a feud between the two other than just randomly announcing that the match will be taking place. They couldn't have hyped Orton's return, then have Heyman interrupt him and just have it progress from there? Also, this makes it incredibly obvious that Lesnar is winning at SummerSlam. Orton is one of the few guys on the roster who has nothing to gain or lose from this match. Losing to Lesnar does nothing to hurt his career. I really disliked the idea of announcing the match cold, and I still do, to some extent, though I did hear an argument for why they may be doing it this way. It serves a couple of purposes. One, it states, definitively, that Brock Lesnar will be at Summerslam. Of course, they've said this before, but now he's got a match, a tangible opponent. It tells Brock (and the public) that they have something for him to do. So, if Brock wins on Saturday and starts getting ideas regarding his future with UFC, it's already public knowledge that he needs to go and honor this specific commitment first. It's more "real" because he has a booked match rather than a booked appearance. It may draw additional attention to Summerslam over the next couple of days. It seems miniscule, but WWE loves publicity, and being associated with hot brands/events. Some sports or entertainment website that wouldn't normally give attention to WWE may be more apt to plug Brock's next fight (in this case, against Orton) rather than just say "hey, you can see Brock next month at WWE Summerslam." Again, it's minor, but WWE has been known to think about these things. It also, to some extent, makes Orton a hot commodity coming in. People do want to see this match, and Randy is a notoriously monotonous and cold character. It's best to capitalize now, when there's some buzz, than weeks into his return when he's settled back into things and becomes just another guy on the roster again. On the flip side, though, there's also the very real possibility that Vince sat in a creative meeting on Monday and said, "what are we gonna do with Brock at Summerslam?" A writer said, "Well, Randy is ready to go." And Vince said, "Is that it? Alright, well, let's announce it" and then Smackdown was chosen because they want to get into the habit of promoting it with the split coming. WWE should be flying Orton out to Vegas to sit cageside at UFC 200. That type of guerilla build would at least generate a certain level of interest. Who knows, maybe they will. I doubt it, though. If Orton is not at UFC 200 then WWE missed a HUGE opportunity. Work out a deal with Dana to have Lesnar walk down past Orton and have the announcers acknowledge their Summer Slam match. Boom instant buzz. And you may have gotten more fans interested in seeing it .
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Post by davie™ on Jul 9, 2016 21:10:07 GMT -5
If it's not Orton from 08-09 I have no interest. He needs to be heel
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