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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Dec 15, 2017 2:10:09 GMT -5
I liked it. Too many jokes tho.
FYI Luke is the most badass Jedi ever.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 6:14:35 GMT -5
My reactions below contain spoilers. I don't know if its the #3 or #4 out of 9 movie for me. THERE ARE MAJOR SPOILERS. I didn't like how they handled Luke AT ALL. I can see why Mark Hamill disagreed with it. He just came off like a crotchety old dick. And following the battle with Kylo Ren he didn't need to become one with the force. Where were the Knights of Ren? As powerful as Snoke was he couldn't tell the Lightsaber right next to him was turning? The jokes were funny, but not needed. The shoulder brush by Luke was funny but not needed for example, but the Porg looking into the Lightsaber while another steps on it thinking you're going to see it turn on was funny and a good example. Rey & Kylo fighting Snokes guards was reeeeedic. Yoda was a nice surprise.
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Post by rudos on Dec 15, 2017 6:54:16 GMT -5
My thoughts... Don't go in expecting the film you see in the trailer. Like others have, looks like star wars, but feels like marvel. That could even be debated though with some of the goofy looking aliens (sea cow anyone). I disliked Luke's story immensely, and there were too many laughs, not enough grit. Plus too many twists and turns, and I dare say too many characters. So disappointed...
Edit: Never thought I'd see someone scratch the belly of a droid! That was weird.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Dec 15, 2017 7:56:30 GMT -5
Amazing movie. I will say, at times the humor felt like a parody, but it was shot and cut in a way that you could cut those scenes out.
8.5/10 for me!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 9:14:28 GMT -5
My mate is dragging me to it tonight so I can "See how bad it is for myself" Will share my thoughts later.
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Post by alanpartridge on Dec 15, 2017 9:43:24 GMT -5
It was great. The storyline was a bit confusing though. The action scenes were fantastic though.
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Post by MacReady on Dec 15, 2017 11:14:05 GMT -5
I'm going to get into spoiler territory here... I'll block out some major stuff in white text, but beware! LET THE PAST DIE. I genuinely can't believe all this divisiveness... People complained TFA was "too muuch of the same" or a "remake of A New Hope disguised as a sequel" and that it relied too much on the old hat. This movie, and particularly in regards to Rian Johnson as a director, broke some new ground, pushed the envelope on things in the SW Universe, and made some BOLD, BOLD choices... and now people are still mad? There's genuinely no pleasing some people. I, for one, ABSOLUTELY loved the movie, I wanted to see it again immediately after it finished. It presented us with some of the COOLEST sequences in Star Wars HISTORY... The Rey & Ren fight scene against Snokes guards, HOLY ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) ING HELL I had goosebumps. Seeing Leia finally use the force felt like an awesome pay off for fans, and a well deserved one. The movie did some really cool stuff with the force, that I loved, real boundary pushing things... Especially where Rey and Kylo were concerned. Speaking of; those two characters, more so than any of the other new ones, are INCREDIBLE, I was eating up every single thing they did in this movie. The older characters, Luke especially, I think the problem is, people have, for over 30 years now, had this preconceived notion of who Luke Skywalker went on to be after ROTJ ended... and they were told in this movie, nah, you were wrong... and they can't handle that. This is not the comic books, or the novels, or the video games, or the cartoons... none of that is cannon as far as the movies are concerned. I think Rian Johnson has done something special with Star Wars, and I'm excited as hell to see what comes next.
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Post by jacktunney on Dec 15, 2017 11:48:17 GMT -5
This is the most disappointed I’ve ever been by a movie.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Dec 15, 2017 14:33:38 GMT -5
I'm going to get into spoiler territory here... I'll block out some major stuff in white text, but beware! LET THE PAST DIE. I genuinely can't believe all this divisiveness... People complained TFA was "too muuch of the same" or a "remake of A New Hope disguised as a sequel" and that it relied too much on the old hat. This movie, and particularly in regards to Rian Johnson as a director, broke some new ground, pushed the envelope on things in the SW Universe, and made some BOLD, BOLD choices... and now people are still mad? There's genuinely no pleasing some people. I, for one, ABSOLUTELY loved the movie, I wanted to see it again immediately after it finished. It presented us with some of the COOLEST sequences in Star Wars HISTORY... The Rey & Ren fight scene against Snokes guards, HOLY ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) ING HELL I had goosebumps. Seeing Leia finally use the force felt like an awesome pay off for fans, and a well deserved one. The movie did some really cool stuff with the force, that I loved, real boundary pushing things... Especially where Rey and Kylo were concerned. Speaking of; those two characters, more so than any of the other new ones, are INCREDIBLE, I was eating up every single thing they did in this movie. The older characters, Luke especially, I think the problem is, people have, for over 30 years now, had this preconceived notion of who Luke Skywalker went on to be after ROTJ ended... and they were told in this movie, nah, you were wrong... and they can't handle that. This is not the comic books, or the novels, or the video games, or the cartoons... none of that is cannon as far as the movies are concerned. I think Rian Johnson has done something special with Star Wars, and I'm excited as hell to see what comes next. Luke was a product of his trainers. They were both crap in hermits. Luke simply did what he saw, there can only be peace when the Jedi are gone.
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Post by Cameron Stone on Dec 15, 2017 18:03:00 GMT -5
Second viewing made me appreciate this a lot more. Jumps up to a 9/10, and third favorite in the saga behind Empire and New Hope
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Post by GBGav on Dec 15, 2017 19:17:11 GMT -5
Glad to see that some of you also love the film. If you're really disappointed then I won't hold it against you because you're entitled to think whatever you like. Some people just have very high hopes or expectations. Or are such a fan of something that if something doesn't fit their beliefs then it's seen as a failure. There's nothing wrong with expecting perfection, or something close to it. But one film cannot possibly please everybody. They aren't gonna go back and remake this one so for better or worse, you're stuck with it. I saw this with my mother and immediately after we left she said she wants to watch it again. This is a 50 year old woman who grew up with the original films. So if she's pleased, that's all I need to know.
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Post by PrincessOfSunlight on Dec 15, 2017 21:36:23 GMT -5
I like a gag when they’re funny not just for gags sake. Some wonky dialogue in places and way too many forces to be with people. Felt like they were wielding that around like an untamable flame.
Loved Kylo/Rey/Snoke stuff. Luke’s island was okay, minus the above quibbles. PORRRRGS :3 love em!
Oh and Laura Dern was just like the most out of place figure. Benicio was just odd too.
I dunno, I wanted more pace, expected more finesse after Force Awakens being so slick, this seemed fatty trudging along.
I’m very hyped for what I saw as a revelation that Hux has a lightsaber and has secretly been trained by Snoke and will be fully revealed in the next one. It was a very small moment when he walks into the throne room after the fight but that’s what I saw.
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Post by madness1 on Dec 15, 2017 22:28:26 GMT -5
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I have never been so disappointed in a movie. They put the movie in thw WRONG hands. Never would I thought the fate of rebellion lies on havinf enought F-ing gas in the tank. Luke's charictor arc lies in him believing he was a legend. Every women were these powerful women who are flawless and have to show the boys how its done. Rose was pointless. The casino and animal cruelty lesson took me right out the movie.
I hate when pol tip therir hats to these rubes by saying they took chances. No they didn't used similar plots abd hell smae dialogue at times.
They had enough time go come up with a good atory the material was there how they cmae up with this steming pile of dog crap. These unimaginative twats should never be allowed to touch S.W. again...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 6:50:05 GMT -5
Saw it last night. Get ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) ing ready WFigs. I went into this movie with a fairly open mindset. I knew the general thought was that the movie sucked, but I enjoyed Suicide Squad, maybe I'd enjoy this too? Oh boy how wrong I was. Nothing in this movie makes sense. Rian Johnson must have some serious ego issues because everything that JJ Abrams put on a silver platter for him, he shot down. Rey's parents? No one. Snoke? Plot device. Luke Skywalker? Turned into a joke. Rey is borderline annoying with how perfect she is at everything. Mary Sue etc etc. It was obvious in TFA, It's even worse here. Pink haired Jurassic Park chick was really just a waste of space. They could have given all those scenes to Leia and it would have been fine. Rose was basically just an asian Melissa McCarthey to me. Completely took me out of the movie with the Casino and animal cruelty part of the movie. Was there even more than 3-4 aliens in this? Where are the twi-leks? The anything? This could have taken place on Earth honestly. Everything cool in this movie gets destroyed instantly. Red ninja guards? Dead. Snoke's spaceship? Destroyed. They completely shat on Luke Skywalker's character. This guy who turned his father to the light at the end of VI has now given up all hope and everything is meaningless and blah blah. What a sh*t end for that character. The dialog feels really stiff and unnatural. Prequels bad. Carrie Poppins y'all. What the ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) . Nothing really progressed here. Some people died, but no plot really advanced here. The theme being red-white-black got really stale, really quickly. Honestly, there wasn't much in this movie that I liked. Some cool shots here and there but nothing memorable. This felt like a quick, easy and mindless cash grab. If Rian Johnson really is to direct 10-12, count me out. He shouldn't be anywhere near this franchise. If I were to rate it, I'd give it a 2/10. A 3/10 if you're really drunk and nothing better is on TV. I truly cannot grasp how something as cool as Star Wars can be so ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) ing bad.
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Post by MANN on Dec 16, 2017 7:49:59 GMT -5
Saw it last night. Get ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) ing ready WFigs. I went into this movie with a fairly open mindset. I knew the general thought was that the movie sucked, but I enjoyed Suicide Squad, maybe I'd enjoy this too? Oh boy how wrong I was. Nothing in this movie makes sense. Rian Johnson must have some serious ego issues because everything that JJ Abrams put on a silver platter for him, he shot down. Rey's parents? No one. Snoke? Plot device. Luke Skywalker? Turned into a joke. Rey is borderline annoying with how perfect she is at everything. Mary Sue etc etc. It was obvious in TFA, It's even worse here. Pink haired Jurassic Park chick was really just a waste of space. They could have given all those scenes to Leia and it would have been fine. Rose was basically just an asian Melissa McCarthey to me. Completely took me out of the movie with the Casino and animal cruelty part of the movie. Was there even more than 3-4 aliens in this? Where are the twi-leks? The anything? This could have taken place on Earth honestly. Everything cool in this movie gets destroyed instantly. Red ninja guards? Dead. Snoke's spaceship? Destroyed. They completely shat on Luke Skywalker's character. This guy who turned his father to the light at the end of VI has now given up all hope and everything is meaningless and blah blah. What a sh*t end for that character. The dialog feels really stiff and unnatural. Prequels bad. Carrie Poppins y'all. What the ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) . Nothing really progressed here. Some people died, but no plot really advanced here. The theme being red-white-black got really stale, really quickly. Honestly, there wasn't much in this movie that I liked. Some cool shots here and there but nothing memorable. This felt like a quick, easy and mindless cash grab. If Rian Johnson really is to direct 10-12, count me out. He shouldn't be anywhere near this franchise. If I were to rate it, I'd give it a 2/10. A 3/10 if you're really drunk and nothing better is on TV. I truly cannot grasp how something as cool as Star Wars can be so ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) ing bad. Very harsh Scarecrow...BUUUT, not at all innacurate. It just seemed "OFF". Disney cant seem to capture The heart and Soul of SW. TFA, even an almost remake felt like Star Wars. This did not! It isn't Marvel so the forced corny Jedi shoulder brush isnt wanted or needed but sarcastic humor is. Maybe Fishers death forced some odd recuts or something, and I kinda got her Angelic symbolism scene as a tribute. BUUUUT....in 40yrs never heard a Jedi could survive in space. Poor Alien designs, planet designs....unnecessary characters and deaths. Phasma is a mistake along the lines of Boba Fett/Maul a waste of good villians. But we get Snoke which was..hell we dont even know who or what. Terrible Lightsabre battle,I thought Hammil took extensive lightsabre traing but for what? Guess Yoda said it best "DO OR DO NOT, THERE IS NO TRY". Disney isnt good at Star Wars, coming from an original SW fan this did not seem like a Star Wars spectacle, more like the last Transformers movie....so much EXCELLENT post ROTJ canon to incorporate but this is what they went with? Luke could pull down Star Destroyers and control several lightsabres without even touching them and he's lowered to a stick fight and milking a space Manatee...SMH. I liked it but disliked it just as much..kinda numb feeling. Hopefully JJs next crack can salvage something...not sure what he has left to work with after this though. And why on Earth the goofy stutter for Del-Toro when he can play a perfectly good sleazeball by just being himself. Not sure if HOPE can save SW in Disneys hands.....all the money,technology,talent and resources and The House of Mouse just isn't cutting it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 9:07:22 GMT -5
Saw it last night. Get ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) ing ready WFigs. I went into this movie with a fairly open mindset. I knew the general thought was that the movie sucked, but I enjoyed Suicide Squad, maybe I'd enjoy this too? Oh boy how wrong I was. Nothing in this movie makes sense. Rian Johnson must have some serious ego issues because everything that JJ Abrams put on a silver platter for him, he shot down. Rey's parents? No one. Snoke? Plot device. Luke Skywalker? Turned into a joke. Rey is borderline annoying with how perfect she is at everything. Mary Sue etc etc. It was obvious in TFA, It's even worse here. Pink haired Jurassic Park chick was really just a waste of space. They could have given all those scenes to Leia and it would have been fine. Rose was basically just an asian Melissa McCarthey to me. Completely took me out of the movie with the Casino and animal cruelty part of the movie. Was there even more than 3-4 aliens in this? Where are the twi-leks? The anything? This could have taken place on Earth honestly. Everything cool in this movie gets destroyed instantly. Red ninja guards? Dead. Snoke's spaceship? Destroyed. They completely shat on Luke Skywalker's character. This guy who turned his father to the light at the end of VI has now given up all hope and everything is meaningless and blah blah. What a sh*t end for that character. The dialog feels really stiff and unnatural. Prequels bad. Carrie Poppins y'all. What the ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) . Nothing really progressed here. Some people died, but no plot really advanced here. The theme being red-white-black got really stale, really quickly. Honestly, there wasn't much in this movie that I liked. Some cool shots here and there but nothing memorable. This felt like a quick, easy and mindless cash grab. If Rian Johnson really is to direct 10-12, count me out. He shouldn't be anywhere near this franchise. If I were to rate it, I'd give it a 2/10. A 3/10 if you're really drunk and nothing better is on TV. I truly cannot grasp how something as cool as Star Wars can be so ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) ing bad. Very harsh Scarecrow...BUUUT, not at all innacurate. It just seemed "OFF". Disney cant seem to capture The heart and Soul of SW. TFA, even an almost remake felt like Star Wars. This did not! It isn't Marvel so the forced corny Jedi shoulder brush isnt wanted or needed but sarcastic humor is. Maybe Fishers death forced some odd recuts or something, and I kinda got her Angelic symbolism scene as a tribute. BUUUUT....in 40yrs never heard a Jedi could survive in space. Poor Alien designs, planet designs....unnecessary characters and deaths. Phasma is a mistake along the lines of Boba Fett/Maul a waste of good villians. But we get Snoke which was..hell we dont even know who or what. Terrible Lightsabre battle,I thought Hammil took extensive lightsabre traing but for what? Guess Yoda said it best "DO OR DO NOT, THERE IS NO TRY". Disney isnt good at Star Wars, coming from an original SW fan this did not seem like a Star Wars spectacle, more like the last Transformers movie....so much EXCELLENT post ROTJ canon to incorporate but this is what they went with? Luke could pull down Star Destroyers and control several lightsabres without even touching them and he's lowered to a stick fight and milking a space Manatee...SMH. I liked it but disliked it just as much..kinda numb feeling. Hopefully JJs next crack can salvage something...not sure what he has left to work with after this though. And why on Earth the goofy stutter for Del-Toro when he can play a perfectly good sleazeball by just being himself. Not sure if HOPE can save SW in Disneys hands.....all the money,technology,talent and resources and The House of Mouse just isn't cutting it. Star Wars movies are the easiest to make. Have some lightsaber battles, some nostalgia, epic space battles and done. It really isn't that hard to make a Star Wars movie above average. I can't grasp how they are struggling. It's just a cash grab at this point. Only made to sell toys and that's that.
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Post by cripplercrossface on Dec 16, 2017 11:27:26 GMT -5
The movie is prequel level bad.
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Post by MacReady on Dec 16, 2017 15:37:01 GMT -5
SPOILERS I have never been so disappointed in a movie. They put the movie in thw WRONG hands. Never would I thought the fate of rebellion lies on havinf enought F-ing gas in the tank. Luke's charictor arc lies in him believing he was a legend. Every women were these powerful women who are flawless and have to show the boys how its done. Rose was pointless. The casino and animal cruelty lesson took me right out the movie. I hate when pol tip therir hats to these rubes by saying they took chances. No they didn't used similar plots abd hell smae dialogue at times. They had enough time go come up with a good atory the material was there how they cmae up with this steming pile of dog crap. These unimaginative twats should never be allowed to touch S.W. again... I assume you’re referring to me saying Rian Johnson made bold choices and took chances, and I’d take your opinion a whole lot more serious if I could understand a word you just said, and it didn’t reek of a pissed off mysognist angry that women can do things now. Elitist Star Wars fans that have read one too many Dark Horse comics are the worst.
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Post by Cameron Stone on Dec 16, 2017 16:27:13 GMT -5
Also for people talking about how perfect Rey is and they dislike it, remember, in A New Hope, Luke, who has literally never piloted a spaceship before, flies a starfighter into battle for the first time, being one of like 3 surviving pilots and blowing up the death Star. In his first time ever in a cockpit.
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Post by deskjet on Dec 16, 2017 16:47:40 GMT -5
I hate the force awakens, but really enjoyed TLJ. I've been a star wars fan since probably longer than most on here, and I'll say this, at some point, fans have to move on from the OT. TLJ did this but also pulled in parts of the other movies. It's not perfect, but it's on the right path. There's only so many times you can tell the skywalker vs bad guy story before it gets old. Time for some new ventures and I think that's what Rian Johnson did here...set the franchise up moving forward. I loved the ending with the little boy and the broom...He wasn't connected to anyone, he was someone that was looked past, that found hope in something beyond himself...that will draw him into a better life...that's what the force does...it calls to your better self...what you do with it, is up to you.
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