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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 22, 2016 12:44:06 GMT -5
Lesnar bores me greatly now.
I am never excited for his matches because I know how they go. He doesn't wrestle anymore, he just suplexes guys, then its an F5, then ends up somehow taking his opponents finishing move, goes on the defense for a few minutes, comes back with a suplex, and an F5. Or in last nights case, just hard elbows to the head to bloody Orton.
If that's how Lesnar matches go, he could just go out there with anyone from the roster. Bo Dallas, Curtis Axel, even Heath Slater, and just toss them around with suplex after suplex and hit the F5 and go home. Because Lesnar adds nothing anymore to the WWE.
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Post by Rude Awakening on Aug 22, 2016 12:46:38 GMT -5
Lesnar bores me greatly now. I am never excited for his matches because I know how they go. He doesn't wrestle anymore, he just suplexes guys, then its an F5, then ends up somehow taking his opponents finishing move, goes on the defense for a few minutes, comes back with a suplex, and an F5. Or in last nights case, just hard elbows to the head to bloody Orton. If that's how Lesnar matches go, he could just go out there with anyone from the roster. Bo Dallas, Curtis Axel, even Heath Slater, and just toss them around with suplex after suplex and hit the F5 and go home. Because Lesnar adds nothing anymore to the WWE. I like lesnars matches. It adds that real feel and his attitude adds to that real feel as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 12:52:15 GMT -5
I've been on the whole time. I'm just laughing watching everyone hop off and on.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Aug 22, 2016 12:52:27 GMT -5
I love Brock Lesnar. For all the crap people give him about being unsafe and hard to work with, I'll say it again: Brock has to be doing something right for The Undertaker to not only agree to let him end The Streak, but to also work two additional matches against him last year. If Lesnar was unsafe and despised backstage, Taker would not have agreed to work with him at this stage of his career.
Let's also look at the facts: nobody else in wrestling gets people talking like Brock Lesnar. People are STILL debating possible conspiracy theories to explain his win at Wrestlemania 30, and the same thing has already started to happen after his match last night. Like him or not, the guy brings attention to the company, for better or for worse.
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 22, 2016 13:09:59 GMT -5
I'll always be a fan of Lesnar. With that being said, the guy hasn't had a good match since Royal Rumble 2015.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 22, 2016 13:13:58 GMT -5
I love Brock Lesnar. For all the crap people give him about being unsafe and hard to work with, I'll say it again: Brock has to be doing something right for The Undertaker to not only agree to let him end The Streak, but to also work two additional matches against him last year. If Lesnar was unsafe and despised backstage, Taker would not have agreed to work with him at this stage of his career. Let's also look at the facts: nobody else in wrestling gets people talking like Brock Lesnar. People are STILL debating possible conspiracy theories to explain his win at Wrestlemania 30, and the same thing has already started to happen after his match last night. Like him or not, the guy brings attention to the company, for better or for worse. I am pretty sure that's Vince who decides that one. Taker had no say in it. If that was the case, Kane would have beaten Taker years ago at Mania, because I remember hearing stories that Taker wanted Kane to be the one to end the streak.
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Post by slappy on Aug 22, 2016 13:15:26 GMT -5
I've never been a fan of Brock even dating back to his first run so I'll never be on the bus.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Aug 22, 2016 13:19:16 GMT -5
I love Brock Lesnar. For all the crap people give him about being unsafe and hard to work with, I'll say it again: Brock has to be doing something right for The Undertaker to not only agree to let him end The Streak, but to also work two additional matches against him last year. If Lesnar was unsafe and despised backstage, Taker would not have agreed to work with him at this stage of his career. Let's also look at the facts: nobody else in wrestling gets people talking like Brock Lesnar. People are STILL debating possible conspiracy theories to explain his win at Wrestlemania 30, and the same thing has already started to happen after his match last night. Like him or not, the guy brings attention to the company, for better or for worse. I am pretty sure that's Vince who decides that one. Taker had no say in it. If that was the case, Kane would have beaten Taker years ago at Mania, because I remember hearing stories that Taker wanted Kane to be the one to end the streak. Vince always has the final say, but to think that Taker wouldn't have to be on board with the idea would be ludicrous. After how much he's given to this business and the company, there's no way Vince would have decided to have Brock end The Streak if Taker wasn't cool with it.
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Post by adecw on Aug 22, 2016 13:20:10 GMT -5
Sorry but I refuse to get off as I'm the one driving the bus
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Post by attitudesback on Aug 22, 2016 13:20:11 GMT -5
People really are too focused on this whole "work rate" thing.
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Post by Tim of thee on Aug 22, 2016 13:23:13 GMT -5
I love the character they've built but I hate his matches. So boring that I'm napping. Wake up, another German suplex. The matches just aren't first rate. It's just one long drone. I like my matches with a lot of ups and downs and close calls.
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Post by hbkowns on Aug 22, 2016 13:53:35 GMT -5
People really are too focused on this whole "work rate" thing. Workrate? When it comes down to it we pay to see what goes on in the middle of the ring. Workrate is probably the #1 thing that wrestling fans look at in general. I'm sorry, but do you like crapty wrestling?
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Post by Supreme Cross on Aug 22, 2016 13:53:40 GMT -5
never because i was never a fan of him. the only time i liked him was back in early 2000 when he could actually wrestle
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Post by marino13 on Aug 22, 2016 13:55:33 GMT -5
I'm one of the few that celebrated when Cena defeated Brock in his WWE return.
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Post by attitudesback on Aug 22, 2016 13:58:47 GMT -5
People really are too focused on this whole "work rate" thing. Workrate? When it comes down to it we pay to see what goes on in the middle of the ring. Workrate is probably the #1 thing that wrestling fans look at in general. I'm sorry, but do you like crapty wrestling? Very few people pay to see what goes on in the middle of the ring. The WWEs most successful period was because of the story. The story is the be all, end all. Otherwise, it's just fake fighting for no reason and thus, pointless. See - most of Raw before the brand split. Those "work rate" matches are alright to waste time, but do nothing for most fans because there's no point to them. The most important thing about wrestling is the story. With no story, there is no point. The attitude era was the greatest time for wrestling because the stories were red hot and the guys were believable. No one watched Austin become the #1 wrestler of all time commercially and sat and cried because his work rate was poor.
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Post by Rude Awakening on Aug 22, 2016 14:00:47 GMT -5
Workrate? When it comes down to it we pay to see what goes on in the middle of the ring. Workrate is probably the #1 thing that wrestling fans look at in general. I'm sorry, but do you like crapty wrestling? Very few people pay to see what goes on in the middle of the ring. The WWEs most successful period was because of the story. The story is the be all, end all. Otherwise, it's just fake fighting for no reason and thus, pointless. See - most of Raw before the brand split. Those "work rate" matches are alright to waste time, but do nothing for most fans because there's no point to them. The most important thing about wrestling is the story. With no story, there is no point. The attitude era was the greatest time for wrestling because the stories were red hot and the guys were believable. No one watched Austin become the #1 wrestler of all time commercially and sat and cried because his work rate was poor. . I agree I pay to see the wrestling, but there would be no point in the wrestling if there was no story or entertainment factor.
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Post by Bandalero on Aug 22, 2016 14:05:21 GMT -5
nuclear heat or xpac heat? That's the question.
A lot of you are quick to jump down Brock's throat because Randy came back with a personality after nearly a decade and Brock "John Cena'd" him. Brock is a legit badass, he doesn't give a sh*t about the kids and is here to make money from the business. Work rate? What work rate? He's been open and honest about his purpose in WWE from day one. Suplex, Suplex, F-5, then pick up a big payday. You're all hating the man for being what he said he'd be. Some of you are now saying he's reckless, Sabu is reckless, Stan Hansen without his specs is reckless (ask Vader), Brock is being his gimmick.
I actually would like less Paul Heyman and more Brock interacting like how he did with Heath Slater - we all bought into his "hey I can respect that, come here" routine before he trolled all of us. That was awesome.
So I wonder, for all his "recklessness", lack of work rate, and john cena steamrolling, is his heat nuclear or xpac worthy?
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Aug 22, 2016 14:15:58 GMT -5
I like Lesnar, but the suplex thing is getting so repetitive to the point where it's cringeworthy. We need something new to the table.
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Post by hbchris on Aug 22, 2016 14:21:41 GMT -5
Brock isn't being paid to put on what some might call good matches. He's paid to come in and dominate, in the hopes of casual fans saying, "hey, that UFC guy is gonna beat the crap out of someone, we should pay for the WWE network." And then those people will be entertained that he throws some dude around for 10 minutes. If you're a dedicated WWE fan, maybe you like that, and maybe you don't. But don't expect a deep story, and don't expect a big payoff when he finally gets dethroned, because he'll probably leave before that ever happens. In some ways he's bigger than WWE, so he has a unique role to play that some people are gonna love and some people are gonna be bored by.
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Post by Rontaro13 on Aug 22, 2016 14:35:44 GMT -5
I've hated Brock since he steamrolled the Big Show at the 2014 Royal Rumble, and from there my hate for him got worse as he squashed more and more top level guys. Brock's match against Orton was a dream match for years to many people, and it fell flat, just like every other match with Brock. Brock just needs to go away, and I wish he did after Wrestlemania 31.
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