Kane Opines About the FDA/Vaping

I didn't say drinking in a distributor location. I said a bar. Smoking is also allowed in most bars here too, if you want a bar that's non smoking you have to actually make sure they have the no smoking sign, along with all of the Puff stores I have been to that allow smoking, as long as they're not connected within a complex most do allow it.

And for the ban in vape shops, it's the WHOLE shop they're trying to stop vaping in. It's not just the sales floor. They don't want separate sections for taste bars or "smokers lounges" or anything at all. They want to make it so you can only vape in your home. The county I live in is going further, trying to ban it from public in general; meaning even outside if it's not on your physical property. They don't even do that with cigarettes which HAVE known effects of second hand. So why only vaping? Why no vaping in a smokers bar? Or a separate tasting location? It's hypocrisy and an attempt to either get people to quit everything entirely or turn them back to cigarettes which remains one of most states top five single purchase tax cash cows that's lost hundreds of millions if not billions because of the rise of vaping. That way they can either claim they were the generation to end smoking, or they can show off how many millions of tax dollars they've raised because too many states have too big of contracts with Phillip Morris, RJ Reynolds, Winston Salem and others to split the tax money collected off of a pack whereas the vaping community doesn't have any kind of Big Tobacco backing. And once all of these mom and pop stores are forced to close, and the distributors stop manufacturing, guess what? The regulations will be loosened to allow ecigs back on the market and usable freely as a normal cigarette but the only products available? Blu, NJoy, Mark Ten and Vuse; conveniently owned by the Big Tobacco companies, or their subsidiaries. And they'll reword the current regulations so prohibition esque ecigs can't begin to be manufactured and the only choices will be what Phillip Morris and company make thus continuing the monopoly.

And as for studies about lung cancer and other health risks, you do know vaping isn't a new thing right? It's one of the fastest growing industries in recent years, but these things have been studied for over a decade. A plethora of reputable research groups wouldn't just publish work on research from a very short period of time. Hell, before this hardcore regulation began the FDA said they were less hazardous than traditional cigarettes.

Ecigs have been around for 13+ years. Sure, not as long as cigarettes, but plenty long enough for strong case studies to be completed and early conclusions to be made, even if they're not 100% complete yet. Sure, more effort should go into studying the effects but if these studies are almost all saying "more testing should be done but as of right now it's looking towards a positive trend" then that should say something. Work to still be done; but pockets have been lined, and many have chosen to remain ignorant on the topic so they might as well put an end to it before Big Tobacco actually encounters it's first real threat in decades and causes more trouble. Always best to stick to the status quo, even if it's killing millions every year.

The FDA is there to help. If their study finds that Vape liquid has toxic chemicals, they'll shut it down. In my opinion, Vape is the dumbest craze. I watch people with them. They hit them like every 3 minutes, and after awhile must do sonething with their hands or they just puff and puff on their sticks.

Point is, don't be a bitch, if you're going to smoke, get something real.

You hate passive smokers? You know a passive smoker has very little choice to be a passive smoker? I'm not sure you understand what a passive smoker is mate. It's someone who is almost forced to breath in second hand smoke by having people smoking in their vicinity

I know exactly what a passive smoker is so you can spare me the condescending lecture.

They don't have a choice? I'll crack the jokes.

I've seen myself in the past standing waiting to board a coach or waiting in a line for something outside. The strangers beside me have the choice to be considerate and either: not smoke or: go and stand a mere few feet away where there are no people and smoke there. But 9 times out of 10, they choose to be inconsiderate c*nts and instead light up and smoke right in my ing face. And being someone who suffers from asthma, it's even worse for me.

They have plenty of choices. Smoke or don't smoke. Be considerate to those around them or be inconsiderate s and inflict their revolting second hand smoke upon everyone around them.