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Post by TheLastDude on Aug 27, 2016 23:23:55 GMT -5
Person and performer are two very different things. That being said, I'm still a fan of Chris Benoit the wrestler. What he did was heartbreaking and abhorrent, no doubt about it...but we'll never know how mentally ill he truly was. I have enough room in my heart to pity him and hope that his family rests in peace. There has never been a truly phenomenal female wrestler. When women wrestle, their moves almost always seem much more choreographed and rehearsed than do the moves of their male counterparts. I think there is a haze of "died too soon" or "what might have been" coloring people's recollections of Owen Hart. I think he was a gifted performer, but I don't know that he was truly one of the best. The Mount Rushmore of pro wrestling is Bruno, Hogan, Austin, and Cena. These four men shaped the world of professional wrestling with their personalities. They transcended being just "wrestlers". However, you'll note that I didn't say they were the best wrestlers ever. Just that they were instrumental in the world of entertainment in each of their respective eras. Eric Bischoff doesn't get nearly as much credit as he deserves. The man is smart, and he is money. Wrestling is way too ing serious now. I personally would like to see some colorful characters straight out of the Rock 'n' Wrestling era on my TV in 2016.
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Post by Rude Awakening on Aug 27, 2016 23:26:18 GMT -5
I can't take Sami Zayn seriously. He is a great wrestler, but his entrance just kills it for me.
John Cena doesn't get enough credit for the great matches he has.
WWECW was a good brand and deserved better than it got.
Randy Orton plays heel and face to near perfection.
Batista was screwed over in his last wwe run.
Shelton Benjamin is the most underrated wrestler of all time.
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Post by BSR on Aug 27, 2016 23:31:23 GMT -5
Eric Bischoff doesn't get nearly as much credit as he deserves. The man is smart, and he is money. This part makes me happy.
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Post by King Richius on Aug 27, 2016 23:37:49 GMT -5
Undertaker should retire and walk off into the sunset at the HoF ceremony next year.
Paul Heyman is the smartest man in the history of the wrestling business (as long as you don't ask him to balance the books).
The Miz and Cesaro will never be more than mid-carders because each lacks what the other has but if you combined them you would have the greatest wrestler EVER.
The Fabulous Freebirds are and always will be the greatest faction in wrestling.
If the Dudleys had one more WWE tag title reign in the past year, they would have surpassed the Road Warriors as the greatest tag team of all-time. As it is, I think they are tied as 1A and 1B.
Wrestlers like Samoa Joe, Austin Aries, Bobby Roode, and Shinsuke Nakamura did not need to spend any time in NXT; they could have gone straight to the main roster like AJ Styles. That they did go to NXT says a lot about the success of NXT and how it is both a developmental organization *and* viable alternate brand to boost network subscriptions.
WWE/NXT and ROH should work together similar to how WWF and ECW did in the late 90s. It would increase exposure for ROH and create a fast track for the better ROH talent to get into NXT and eventually WWE while they are still young and relatively healthy.
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Post by TheLastDude on Aug 27, 2016 23:38:51 GMT -5
Eric Bischoff doesn't get nearly as much credit as he deserves. The man is smart, and he is money. This part makes me happy. I meant every word of it!
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Post by BSR on Aug 27, 2016 23:40:21 GMT -5
This part makes me happy. I meant every word of it! The problem is people didn't see the good he did, and assume he caused the bad.
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on Aug 27, 2016 23:45:01 GMT -5
Rusev is a channel changer for me but supposedly the next Rock according to internet
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Post by Rob on Aug 27, 2016 23:47:01 GMT -5
Cena might be one of the best wrestlers in the world today and i dare you to try and prove me wrong. Lesnar absolutely sucks and i cant stand the sight of him. Heath Slater should get an upper mid card push. Becky Lynch should be in Sasha Banks position
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2016 23:47:21 GMT -5
The Rock became the Corporate bitch, as he can literally get away for using the same crap Cena gets hated for
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Post by TheLastDude on Aug 27, 2016 23:47:41 GMT -5
I meant every word of it! The problem is people didn't see the good he did, and assume he caused the bad. Agreed. He did what he had to do. He made lemonade and people wanted to hate him for it. Obviously not every decision was the best, and he's admitted as much, but to say that Bischoff was a black mark in the history of pro wrestling is to not know the facts.
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Post by BSR on Aug 27, 2016 23:49:57 GMT -5
The problem is people didn't see the good he did, and assume he caused the bad. Agreed. He did what he had to do. He made lemonade and people wanted to hate him for it. Obviously not every decision was the best, and he's admitted as much, but to say that Bischoff was a black mark in the history of pro wrestling is to not know the facts. The problem is fans lost interest, and younger fans don't know anything about him other than he was the worst guy on earth in every wwe produced DVD set or series. The guy is a visionary.
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Post by FUSamBaker on Aug 27, 2016 23:54:22 GMT -5
I have more lol...I donno if anyone has gone twice yet haha - JBL is faaaaaar from a wrestling God. -Enzo is good on the mic and bad in the ring, Cass is bad on the mic and bad in the ring. - Owen Hart was a great athlete and far better than Bret. But never would have been world champion. - Chris Benoit was my least favorite as champion. He was intercontinental material but not world champion material. - Randy Orton is boring on the mic. Great athlete and a killer body but so...f*cking...boring. - No woman in wrestling redeemed herself like Lita. She was one of the best but retired soooo horribly. Now everyone has forgotten her tramp gimmick. Good for her! - Becky Lynch should have won the women's title at WrestleMania. She's better than Charlotte, more talented than Sasha, leaps and bounds over Paige...now she's on Smackdown :/ - Natalya is a powerhouse as a wrestler but her gimmicks are lame. The farting gimmick was childish. She's a pushover as a face but too nice to be heel. Natalya needs a silent heel gimmick, no talking just wrestling. Sadly I think her last push was the last push. - WWE couldn't wait to release that hoe Seth was sleeping with. They punished her for no reason. I know that no one cares but it shows how they treat their divas like garbage. Btw...Seth isn't that impressive. That's what he gets for sending d*ck pics like a teenager. - lastly....WWE should have never punished Rusev and Lana. We know these story lines are works. To punish the superstars for living life outside of the ring is asinine! WWE corporate are the ones who push this social media bull*hit. They can't control every aspect of these guy's lives. They don't own their talents. So what it "ruined" a storyline. If you believe all you see on tv then that's your issue. Rusev is talented and Lana was over. WWE should be ashamed for making them redeem themselves just for being human.
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Post by Sizzle on Aug 28, 2016 0:11:11 GMT -5
Becky Lynch should be in Sasha Banks position
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Post by BROKEN on Aug 28, 2016 0:17:24 GMT -5
Nakamura is not entertaining. Come at me bros. I'm ready
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Post by FUSamBaker on Aug 28, 2016 0:19:57 GMT -5
I can't take Sami Zayn seriously. He is a great wrestler, but his entrance just kills it for me. Thank you. His music is something a second grader would listen to. I'm pretty sure it's Kidz Bop material.
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Post by Mox on Aug 28, 2016 0:20:42 GMT -5
Miz should get another World Championship run.
Dana Brooke is sexy as hell.
Fin Balor is boring.
I like Big Show.
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Post by RybackV1 on Aug 28, 2016 0:25:06 GMT -5
Nakamura is not entertaining. Come at me bros. I'm ready
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 28, 2016 0:31:30 GMT -5
Sami Zayn is very overrated. For being an underdog that needs fan support, he never high fives any of the fans, and I feel probably believes his own hype that the internet fans give him.
Triple H is trying to turn WWE into an indy fed. The WWE universe doesn't care about these guys that stole the show for ROH years ago, they want story lines that they can enjoy with their family.
Shinsuke Nakamura isn't a good wrestler. I have seen the guy work in ROH before, and now in NXT, and I don't get what's so amazing about him?? He legit kicks people in the face and head, and already hurt Samoa Joe, and I am sure will give others concussions eventually. I just think he is a very boring wrestler.
Wrestling fans that like NXT are the biggest idiots around. And I don't mean every fan, just the true hardcore NXT fans, that will cheer on the talent in NXT, but once they get called up to the main roster, they say they suck then. Well, that's WWE creative team that makes them suck, not the wrestlers themselves doing that.
Sasha Banks is a C U Next Tuesday. The only great match she ever had was with Bayley, and that was because they probably practiced it for weeks leading up to NXT Takeover: Brooklyn. I haven't seen a match since with Sasha or with Bayley that has been that spot on for entertainment and sequence. It has shades of Ricky Steamboat vs. Randy Savage from WM 3 written all over it, and anyone who is a fan of Savage or Steamboat will know exactly what I mean by that statement.
Bobby Roode and Austin Aries should not be in NXT. Though the only positive of them being there is that they are big stars there. Who knows what would happen to them if they get called up to Raw or Smackdown (see Neville, Bo Dallas, and Tyler Breeze for example).
The Kevin Nash "tore my quad" jokes are stupid. Both Triple H and Vince McMahon tore BOTH their quads, and yet, nobody ever makes fun of them. But at the end of the day, Nash still has the last laugh because he is a millionaire and those that say the jokes are probably not.
Chris Benoit did not kill his family that weekend. From what I understand, his wife died Friday night, his son died Saturday night and he died Sunday night. I still say it was some sort of organized homicide hit on the Benoit family.
Summer Rae has the best legs in WWE for the women. Though, Billie Kay could probably rival her on that one. That is a feud I wouldn't mind seeing!
The wrestling fans need to understand and accept the fact that Eva Marie is gonna be a big deal in the WWE.
Kevin Owens is a really good worker. I did become a fan of his over the past year. However, too much hype was put around the guy last year. I think though that he has become a WWE superstar, and he and Jericho together are gold as a tag team.
New Day sucks. Always has, always will. The fact that they have been tag champions for the past year just goes to show the lack of creativity from the WWE writing team.
The Montreal Screw Job was a work, and it was the greatest work in wrestling history. A 20 year contract at the age of 38, was it?? Right...
TNA Impact wrestling isn't as bad as people say it is. It by no means is as good as the glory years from 10 years ago, but its still a wrestling program that gives us an alternative of stuff to watch during the week.
Adam Cole should never leave ROH for the WWE. Ever!
Christopher Daniels should have been at least a one time NWA, TNA or ROH World Champion. Its a shame that none of that has ever happened.
Hulk Hogan isn't a racist, and its unfair how he was treated because of remarks he made out of anger.
Scott Hall and Kevin Nash saved wrestling in 1996 by going to WCW.
ECW really did deserve the hype it got.
Paul E. Dangerously over Paul Heyman.
Brock Lesnar matches are boring now.
Roman Reigns isn't as bad as people make him out to be.
Same can be said for John Cena.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 0:39:30 GMT -5
WM12 Iron Man Match is heavily overrated, and very boring.
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Post by hbkowns on Aug 28, 2016 0:41:58 GMT -5
I don't really have controversial opinions.If it's good I like it.
But I will tell you one thing. I was not impressed my Bobby Roode one bit. His ring work wasn't as good as I remember and his finisher is wack,
The Rock has been annoying ever since he came back. The guy doesn't deliver in the ring and his promos are childish and stale.
I think Miz's promo on talking smack wasn't anything special either. Everyone talks about how Miz is underrated and blah blah blah but the dude sucks. He had a main event spot he was never worthy of. He then got relegated to the mid card because he showed he couldn't hang in the main event scene. Im even surprised he's got the IC title considering the influx of talent there is.
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