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Post by Lewscher on Sept 13, 2016 5:10:06 GMT -5
I want ko to keep going and get groomed as a true champ.
Aj I wanna see dangle that strap infront of cena and make him chase his 16x, aj can have major heat stopping the cenation dream.
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Post by mutafan on Sept 13, 2016 8:17:05 GMT -5
what if lesnar wins rumble and challenges owens for the belt at mania.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Sept 13, 2016 9:42:15 GMT -5
Every champion is transitional. Except Miz, he's going to be the IC champ for all eternity. lol
I think both have longevity as champions because they're both really great bad guys. I really want to see Owens hold that title until Balor comes back. And as far as Styles goes, I can't see anyone other than Cena beating him for the WWE title. MAYBE Ambrose in a rematch...
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Post by punksnotdead on Sept 13, 2016 11:08:07 GMT -5
Hopefully Styles runs with it until Mania, where JC beats him.Owens, I'm not sure. For me, the WrestleMania Raw title match should be Lesnar defending against Nakamura. Right now, I can't picture Owens vs Reigns or Owens vs anyone as a WM main event, so I think he loses it well before then. This is a no brainer imo. Especially since they've let AJ hammer home the whole face that runs this place with the armband and what not. I'd actually like to see Styles cheat and have Cena lose to him one more time to make the chase feel a little under dog-ish, if such a thing can exist for Cena still. Maybe it happens at Survivor Series, which allows AJ to say Cena heads to the back of the line. Only to set up Cena running him down at Mania. Wins 16 and 17 are WrestleMania win title reigns. I think it'd be stupid to pretend anything but that should happen. With that being said, that doesn't make AJ a place holder champion, not in the way I felt Ambrose was anyway. I really think he's the guy they feel is the Quarterback of Smackdown with Cena not really being full time. If Cena is 1a, and he always is on whatever show he's on, then Styles is 1b. Styles is the guy that will carry that brand night-in and night-out. That's amazing imo and I honestly think it'll be an honor if he gets to Mania and drops it to Cena for number 16. Owens isn't going to make it to Mania with the title imo. I love Owens, and I think he's awesome, but I think we see Rollins rundown Owens by no later than Royal Rumble. There is nobody else. Seems like Rollins vs Triple H could be the WWE Title match at Mania and that's where this story is headed. There is the off chance that it goes back on Brock but I'm not expecting that to happen again with all the PED stuff and his part time status. A returning Finn Balor is about the only guy I could see in there for the Raw Title match outside of Rollins/Reigns/Triple H/Brock. Balor is going to be completely dependent on when he returns from injury, which realistically might be too late into Mania season to have him wrestle for the title.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Sept 13, 2016 11:17:09 GMT -5
AJ Styles will drop the WWE Title to John Cena as soon as Cena is back from all his TV show commitments. Probably early 2017.
Kevin Owens....who knows. I'm sure they still want Roman Reigns to be champ....so he'll probably win the Royal Rumble and get the Wrestlemania title shot for the 3rd year in a row, because it worked so well the last 2 years forcing this on everyone.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Sept 13, 2016 11:17:37 GMT -5
Hopefully Styles runs with it until Mania, where JC beats him.Owens, I'm not sure. For me, the WrestleMania Raw title match should be Lesnar defending against Nakamura. Right now, I can't picture Owens vs Reigns or Owens vs anyone as a WM main event, so I think he loses it well before then. This is a no brainer imo. Especially since they've let AJ hammer home the whole face that runs this place with the armband and what not. I'd actually like to see Styles cheat and have Cena lose to him one more time to make the chase feel a little under dog-ish, if such a thing can exist for Cena still. Maybe it happens at Survivor Series, which allows AJ to say Cena heads to the back of the line. Only to set up Cena running him down at Mania. Wins 16 and 17 are WrestleMania win title reigns. I think it'd be stupid to pretend anything but that should happen. With that being said, that doesn't make AJ a place holder champion, not in the way I felt Ambrose was anyway. I really think he's the guy they feel is the Quarterback of Smackdown with Cena not really being full time. If Cena is 1a, and he always is on whatever show he's on, then Styles is 1b. Styles is the guy that will carry that brand night-in and night-out. That's amazing imo and I honestly think it'll be an honor if he gets to Mania and drops it to Cena for number 16. Owens isn't going to make it to Mania with the title imo. I love Owens, and I think he's awesome, but I think we see Rollins rundown Owens by no later than Royal Rumble. There is nobody else. Seems like Rollins vs Triple H could be the WWE Title match at Mania and that's where this story is headed. There is the off chance that it goes back on Brock but I'm not expecting that to happen again with all the PED stuff and his part time status. A returning Finn Balor is about the only guy I could see in there for the Raw Title match outside of Rollins/Reigns/Triple H/Brock. Balor is going to be completely dependent on when he returns from injury, which realistically might be too late into Mania season to have him wrestle for the title. Sorry about quoting the whole thing, I'm on my phone and deleting parts of quotes can be tricky. But my ideal match for Balor at Mania is vs Jeff Hardy. Jeff's still looking to return to WWE in February, right?
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Post by MADNESS_NH_97 on Sept 13, 2016 11:18:04 GMT -5
I hope Styles' is a good one, but Owens' doesn't matter to me. He isn't on the caliber of Styles, Reigns, or Rollins as champions. Owens is a way better Wrestler & Talker than Reigns... How isn't he on the same caliber as guys like Rollins & Styles(who have way more in common with Owens than with Reigns career wise)
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Post by punksnotdead on Sept 13, 2016 11:24:11 GMT -5
This is a no brainer imo. Especially since they've let AJ hammer home the whole face that runs this place with the armband and what not. I'd actually like to see Styles cheat and have Cena lose to him one more time to make the chase feel a little under dog-ish, if such a thing can exist for Cena still. Maybe it happens at Survivor Series, which allows AJ to say Cena heads to the back of the line. Only to set up Cena running him down at Mania. Wins 16 and 17 are WrestleMania win title reigns. I think it'd be stupid to pretend anything but that should happen. With that being said, that doesn't make AJ a place holder champion, not in the way I felt Ambrose was anyway. I really think he's the guy they feel is the Quarterback of Smackdown with Cena not really being full time. If Cena is 1a, and he always is on whatever show he's on, then Styles is 1b. Styles is the guy that will carry that brand night-in and night-out. That's amazing imo and I honestly think it'll be an honor if he gets to Mania and drops it to Cena for number 16. Owens isn't going to make it to Mania with the title imo. I love Owens, and I think he's awesome, but I think we see Rollins rundown Owens by no later than Royal Rumble. There is nobody else. Seems like Rollins vs Triple H could be the WWE Title match at Mania and that's where this story is headed. There is the off chance that it goes back on Brock but I'm not expecting that to happen again with all the PED stuff and his part time status. A returning Finn Balor is about the only guy I could see in there for the Raw Title match outside of Rollins/Reigns/Triple H/Brock. Balor is going to be completely dependent on when he returns from injury, which realistically might be too late into Mania season to have him wrestle for the title. Sorry about quoting the whole thing, I'm on my phone and deleting parts of quotes can be tricky. But my ideal match for Balor at Mania is vs Jeff Hardy. Jeff's still looking to return to WWE in February, right? I believe so, yes. His contract with TNA expires in January, from what we've read. I would love to see that match. I think the only issue there is they both really need to be the babyface, but there is always that option that Finn joins the Club. If WWE is fine with babyface vs babyface though then so am I. I honestly expect to see both Hardys return though after the Final Deletion buzz. So Jeff and Matt might be brought back as a team to face a set of the tag champs at the time. They'd honestly make good opponents for Gallows and Anderson if they get a lengthly tag title run heading into Mania. Falls in line with their whole retirement deal.
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Post by @.@ Hempsterdance @.@ on Sept 13, 2016 11:37:09 GMT -5
Owens will hold the title till Balor gets back. Both Styles and Owens have the ability to be long term champs.
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Post by havoc7179 on Sept 13, 2016 12:02:53 GMT -5
What exactly is a transitional champion? I always thought it was Wrestler A wins it, holds it for undetermined time, and then upon losing, goes to another feud.
This question seems more along the lines of Short Term vs. Long Term Champion.
In both, if both reigns last more than 1 month, it's long term. Since the Attitude era, holding the title for even a few months is often unheard of. That's why announcers make a big deal out of long reigns.
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Post by Midnight on Sept 13, 2016 12:12:51 GMT -5
I think Styles is definitely going to be a consistent top guy on SmackDown, so I'd say he's keeping it for a while. I'm glad Owens is Universal champ but know that Balor was supposed to hold on to it longer, I'm not sure.
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Post by JokerFC on Sept 13, 2016 13:24:21 GMT -5
Styles I'm not so sure of.......
BUT there's only one way Raw should go. Balor should return, win the RR and go to WM to defeat Rollins and/or Owens in a triple threat match that closes the show. I would have Rollins and Owens feud like crazy over the strap on and off between now and then too....
I don't object to Lesnar getting a shot at the belt but he shouldn't win it. Nakamura will still be in NXT come WM....and that's ok too. Joe will also have arrived by then. He could be a legit contender for either Rollins or Owens in the interim either.
the Reigns experiment has failed so miserably I can hardly phrase it correctly. Feed him to Owens and be done with it. The crowd hates him more than Cena.......and my God that in itself is incredible.
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Post by Sizzle on Sept 13, 2016 14:02:07 GMT -5
I hope Styles' is a good one, but Owens' doesn't matter to me. He isn't on the caliber of Styles, Reigns, or Rollins as champions. Owens is a way better Wrestler & Talker than Reigns... How isn't he on the same caliber as guys like Rollins & Styles(who have way more in common with Owens than with Reigns career wise) I find Reigns, Rollins, and Styles to be more of "champions" if that makes any sense.
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Post by Sizzle on Sept 13, 2016 14:07:28 GMT -5
Owens was just a go-to plan seeing that Balor was injured, which sucks massively. I would've loved a Balor reign seeing the great feuds he could've had. But I'm stuck with Owens, which I guess is a reason I feel like I'm not missing much on RAW.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 14:11:01 GMT -5
They should definitely hold off the AJ vs Cena match till Mania. Have Cena return and feud with other guys to fill that time gap, and then pick back up on the story around Rumble or whatever the SD ppv before Mania is.
Owens I hope gets a good run, and I think he will. Rollins will be busy with Triple H, and Reigns is busy with Rusev. I'd have him keep it till Balor is back.
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Post by TheLastDude on Sept 13, 2016 14:55:30 GMT -5
I have a weird feeling that Owens will be a transitional champ. Im guessing he makes it to around December as champ. Im not sure he makes it to Mania. I have to imagine the plan is Rollins as champ vs a returning Finn Balor is the plan for the Universal title at Mania. Also Lesnar vs. Owens is prob less marketable than a Lesnar vs. Rollins rematch at the Rumble. I have a feeling Styles retains until Mania where he probably loses it to Cena for his 16th title win. This is pretty much what I was going to post. So...quoted!
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Post by havoc7179 on Sept 13, 2016 15:04:50 GMT -5
I have a weird feeling that Owens will be a transitional champ. Im guessing he makes it to around December as champ. Im not sure he makes it to Mania. I have to imagine the plan is Rollins as champ vs a returning Finn Balor is the plan for the Universal title at Mania. Also Lesnar vs. Owens is prob less marketable than a Lesnar vs. Rollins rematch at the Rumble. I have a feeling Styles retains until Mania where he probably loses it to Cena for his 16th title win. This is pretty much what I was going to post. So...quoted! I was telling my friend during Backklash that as long as AJ wins the title tonight and keeps the belt till Mania and drops it to Cena, I won't care. AJ is a made main event star because of his decisive win over Cena at Summerslam and reign as WWE World Champion. Every champion has to lose, and if he has to lose it to Cena, so be it. But, AJ is the first to go 2-0 on Cena and that is a feat in and of itself. That said, because people are getting butt hurt over their failure to understand what constitutes a spoiler, shouldn't this thread have that spoiler tag on it? I mean, how is anyone who didn't see Backlash when it was live or yesterday's Raw when it was live, going to know that AJ is champion and that KO wasn't stripped of the title? These are spoilers to the utmost degree.
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Post by TheLastDude on Sept 13, 2016 15:11:53 GMT -5
This is pretty much what I was going to post. So...quoted! That said, because people are getting butt hurt over their failure to understand what constitutes a spoiler, shouldn't this thread have that spoiler tag on it? I mean, how is anyone who didn't see Backlash when it was live or yesterday's Raw when it was live, going to know that AJ is champion and that KO wasn't stripped of the title? These are spoilers to the utmost degree. Because it's obvious that nobody gives a crap, so why keep fighting it, right? And since you're just trying to troll, I'll go ahead and shut you down: A) It's been over 24 hours B) This is the wrestling board
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Post by cmiller79 on Sept 13, 2016 16:45:10 GMT -5
Aj will probably have it till cena takes it mania
Owens I have no clue about probably a short run
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Post by Butchers on Sept 13, 2016 16:46:26 GMT -5
Styles vs Cena at Mania, Cena may even win the Rumble to get his shot. Cena equals most Rumble wins (3) and then wins his 16th World Title to equal Flair.
As for Owens, I can see him losing soon, but I can also see him taking to Mania, as well. I read an interview with Balor and he said his injury is worse than first thought and that he might be pushing it to make Mania, but who knows, he could be covering up a bit to get surprise out of his return. With it possibly being Triple H vs Rollins at Mania, that leaves Reigns and Lesnar as the most likely opponents.
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