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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 13:34:33 GMT -5
Minus Kendrick most of them have zero character and look the same. I can't disagree much with Ric on that one. Everyone's Gimmicks tell me if I'm Wrong: Gran Metalik and Lince Dorado: LUCHA THINGS!!! GOD DAMN IT WOO! Rich Swann: Fun Babyface who always ask the question "Can you Handle This?" Brian Kendrick: Grizzled Veteran TJ Perkins: Used to be "Millennial" but turned into "Millennial who like's Mega Man." Noam D- Reply to me Boring or Dull and I will Eat your Cat...That's not a euphemism. ahem Dar: Cocky "Rookie"/ Oasis and Star Wars Nerd that's friends with the cool kids in school. Ariya Davari: Evil Foreigner..Bland Evil Foreigner. Tony Nese: Guy who's Strikes Hard but also Flys Swift Drew Gulak: Dean Malenko-esk. Cedric Alexander:...EWR Gimmick of "Show Stealer" sure why not. Jack Gallagher: British Gentlemen, A Shoot one, unlike Jervis Cottenbelly. Hoho Lun: DULL AS A BAG OF ROCKS Bollywood Boys: It's in their name. Akira Towzawa: Strong Style SCREAMER HAI!? As I said in the 205 Live thread
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Post by BorrachoBancho on Dec 6, 2016 14:02:53 GMT -5
I think another problem with the CW division in todays product is that some of the top main event performers can do a lot of the things these guys do. AJ does flips and high flying moves. Owens can take to the air, and does CW moves occasionally. Zayn, Neville, Kofi, Crews, even Cesaro does high flying moves. Zayn-vs-Owens last night looked like more of a CW match than the 2 we saw for the actual division. It really shines an even bigger light on how much is lacking with the guys characters.
You slap the unique ropes and handshakes in there, but really the premise of the CW division doesn't come across as "these are exciting high fliers". It instead comes off as "these guys are small and can only compete with each other", which isn't going to make people care all that much. Unless these guys start doing insanely dangerous spots (which still is a turn-off to some fans), they'll need to look to established stars to help anchor the whole thing.
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Post by SodaGuy on Dec 6, 2016 14:32:15 GMT -5
I think another problem with the CW division in todays product is that some of the top main event performers can do a lot of the things these guys do. AJ does flips and high flying moves. Owens can take to the air, and does CW moves occasionally. Zayn, Neville, Kofi, Crews, even Cesaro does high flying moves. Zayn-vs-Owens last night looked like more of a CW match than the 2 we saw for the actual division. It really shines an even bigger light on how much is lacking with the guys characters. You slap the unique ropes and handshakes in there, but really the premise of the CW division doesn't come across as "these are exciting high fliers". It instead comes off as "these guys are small and can only compete with each other", which isn't going to make people care all that much. Unless these guys start doing insanely dangerous spots (which still is a turn-off to some fans), they'll need to look to established stars to help anchor the whole thing.
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Post by Rob on Dec 6, 2016 14:40:43 GMT -5
I had high hopes for the CW division but it has fallen flat on its face. Its exactly what i had feared, Bunch of flippy guys with no character or personality going out there and putting on random boring workrate matches to dead silent crowds. Its basically the new "go grab a beer or take a piss" segment of the show now that women are getting the "superstar" treatment.
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Post by That 80s Guy on Dec 6, 2016 14:53:52 GMT -5
-- Nothing against the performers, all of them are great. But it's hard to take the division seriously, with the weak scheduling since day 1.
Once hearing of a CW tournament, was great to hear and happy to see on the Network. Then I hear they're going to be apart of the main roster, which I was against, because it puts a glass ceiling on the CW's when they're on the main roster. So it became a RAW exclusive, fine; would've preferred debut on SDL where it was premiered in the past, but whatev. Then at Survivor Series, when you had the PERFECT opportunity to pull the trigger on making it an exclusive SDL division.... they choose not to and keep it a RAW division. "But let's film it LIVE in front of a SDL audience, because it makes perfect sense to feature them on RAW and then the next night for SDL fans"..... (sarcasm). Ideally, 205 would be more appreciated if it were filmed in the same setting as the CWC. Or maybe even taped the same evenings as NXT tapings, with like a 30min intermission for the fans so the whole scene can be transformed into the purple theme of 205.
Anyways, the whole set up now is asinine enough to really not pull me in; however, the 1 upside to it (and it's a HUGE upside), is that Mauro & Corey are at the broadcast booth together. IMO, if Mauro stays with the E, he and Graves could potentially become this era's Gorilla/Brain & JR/King. If they need to prove it on 205, so be it. Hopefully we get a future Draft occasion that puts'em together on one of the main rosters.
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Post by Sizzle on Dec 6, 2016 15:08:30 GMT -5
Minus Kendrick most of them have zero character and look the same. I can't disagree much with Ric on that one. Everyone's Gimmicks tell me if I'm Wrong: Gran Metalik and Lince Dorado: LUCHA THINGS!!! GOD DAMN IT WOO! Rich Swann: Fun Babyface who always ask the question "Can you Handle This?" Brian Kendrick: Grizzled Veteran TJ Perkins: Used to be "Millennial" but turned into "Millennial who like's Mega Man." Noam D- Reply to me Boring or Dull and I will Eat your Cat...That's not a euphemism. ahem Dar: Cocky "Rookie"/ Oasis and Star Wars Nerd that's friends with the cool kids in school. Ariya Davari: Evil Foreigner..Bland Evil Foreigner. Tony Nese: Guy who's Strikes Hard but also Flys Swift Drew Gulak: Dean Malenko-esk. Cedric Alexander:...EWR Gimmick of "Show Stealer" sure why not. Jack Gallagher: British Gentlemen, A Shoot one, unlike Jervis Cottenbelly. Hoho Lun: DULL AS A BAG OF ROCKS Bollywood Boys: It's in their name. Akira Towzawa: Strong Style SCREAMER HAI!? As I said in the 205 Live thread Gimmick and character are two different things. Character not as in a character but character. They lack personality.
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Post by BSR on Dec 6, 2016 15:18:37 GMT -5
Everyone's Gimmicks tell me if I'm Wrong: Gran Metalik and Lince Dorado: LUCHA THINGS!!! GOD DAMN IT WOO! Rich Swann: Fun Babyface who always ask the question "Can you Handle This?" Brian Kendrick: Grizzled Veteran TJ Perkins: Used to be "Millennial" but turned into "Millennial who like's Mega Man." Noam D- Reply to me Boring or Dull and I will Eat your Cat...That's not a euphemism. ahem Dar: Cocky "Rookie"/ Oasis and Star Wars Nerd that's friends with the cool kids in school. Ariya Davari: Evil Foreigner..Bland Evil Foreigner. Tony Nese: Guy who's Strikes Hard but also Flys Swift Drew Gulak: Dean Malenko-esk. Cedric Alexander:...EWR Gimmick of "Show Stealer" sure why not. Jack Gallagher: British Gentlemen, A Shoot one, unlike Jervis Cottenbelly. Hoho Lun: DULL AS A BAG OF ROCKS Bollywood Boys: It's in their name. Akira Towzawa: Strong Style SCREAMER HAI!? As I said in the 205 Live thread Gimmick and character are two different things. Character not as in a character but character. They lack personality. I'm glad you said something. Also. The band oasis is not a gimmick a wrestler can have
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 15:19:23 GMT -5
Everyone's Gimmicks tell me if I'm Wrong: Gran Metalik and Lince Dorado: LUCHA THINGS!!! GOD DAMN IT WOO! Rich Swann: Fun Babyface who always ask the question "Can you Handle This?" Brian Kendrick: Grizzled Veteran TJ Perkins: Used to be "Millennial" but turned into "Millennial who like's Mega Man." Noam D- Reply to me Boring or Dull and I will Eat your Cat...That's not a euphemism. ahem Dar: Cocky "Rookie"/ Oasis and Star Wars Nerd that's friends with the cool kids in school. Ariya Davari: Evil Foreigner..Bland Evil Foreigner. Tony Nese: Guy who's Strikes Hard but also Flys Swift Drew Gulak: Dean Malenko-esk. Cedric Alexander:...EWR Gimmick of "Show Stealer" sure why not. Jack Gallagher: British Gentlemen, A Shoot one, unlike Jervis Cottenbelly. Hoho Lun: DULL AS A BAG OF ROCKS Bollywood Boys: It's in their name. Akira Towzawa: Strong Style SCREAMER HAI!? As I said in the 205 Live thread Gimmick and character are two different things. Character not as in a character but character. They lack personality. Being Smarky is confusing.
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Post by Sizzle on Dec 6, 2016 15:20:08 GMT -5
Gimmick and character are two different things. Character not as in a character but character. They lack personality. I'm glad you said something. Also. The band oasis is not a gimmick a wrestler can have But he kisses his hand so he has charisma
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 15:21:14 GMT -5
I'm glad you said something. Also. The band oasis is not a gimmick a wrestler can have But he kisses his hand so he has charisma More than Tony Nese.
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Post by BSR on Dec 6, 2016 15:21:15 GMT -5
I'm glad you said something. Also. The band oasis is not a gimmick a wrestler can have But he kisses his hand so he has charisma He can kiss Vince's ass. Doesn't mean he's charismatic.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 15:21:50 GMT -5
But he kisses his hand so he has charisma He can kiss Vince's ass. Doesn't mean he's charismatic. No you're thinking of Roman Reigns.
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Post by Sizzle on Dec 6, 2016 15:22:43 GMT -5
But he kisses his hand so he has charisma More than Tony Nese. But Nese is a vacuum so
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Post by BSR on Dec 6, 2016 15:22:55 GMT -5
He can kiss Vince's ass. Doesn't mean he's charismatic. No you're thinking of Roman Reigns. I'd much rather see Reigns over dar.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 15:24:06 GMT -5
Alright.. He has More Charisma than Hoho Lun who's so vanilla.
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Post by Sizzle on Dec 6, 2016 15:26:54 GMT -5
Alright.. He has More Charisma than Hoho Lun who's so vanilla. That's the thing. Most of the cruiserweights they've got are only more charismatic than the next one. It's bad for them. When Aries comes in it'll be cool to see because hes pretty interesting and not just a guy who can wrestle.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 16:26:55 GMT -5
I'm glad you said something. Also. The band oasis is not a gimmick a wrestler can have But he kisses his hand so he has charisma He also grabbed air boobs once.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 17:03:38 GMT -5
Gimmick and character are two different things. Character not as in a character but character. They lack personality. I'm glad you said something. Also. The band oasis is not a gimmick a wrestler can have Oasis Nerd.. and Star wars nerd...what da ya want from meh.
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Post by BSR on Dec 6, 2016 17:21:02 GMT -5
I'm glad you said something. Also. The band oasis is not a gimmick a wrestler can have Oasis Nerd.. and Star wars nerd...what da ya want from meh. Half of this board are star wars nerds. Does that mean they are charismatic enough to be on 205 live?
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Post by Nivro™ on Dec 6, 2016 18:59:45 GMT -5
Rich Swan is really the only one even remotely entertaining. I like TJ Perkins but I like his entrance more then his actual matches
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