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Post by marino13 on Dec 9, 2016 18:50:56 GMT -5
Seems odd to claim you're blacklisted months after being on a WWE DVD. Gonna have to wait for more info before I get invested.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Dec 9, 2016 19:11:37 GMT -5
Never liked him and I don't see why he'd be considered HOF material. Because he was the voice of WCW. You can not like the guy but between his time in the NWA and WCW, he had a pretty great career. I know Brain hates him but some of their commentary from the MNWs is some of the funniest dialogue of all time. Heenan hating his job and not caring made for spectacular tv. WCW wasn't known for their commentary. Schiavone also withheld the finishes to matches from his colleagues, leading to the infamous "but who's side is he on" comment. |
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Post by k5 on Dec 9, 2016 20:05:47 GMT -5
i don't know for sure if it's the reasoning, but i don't think it was very smart to cross heenan. i don't think shane douglas is gonna be showing up on wwe tv either any time soon considering flair's relationship with triple h. heenan has a great immense amount of respect from fans and those in the business alike, and it wouldn't be hard for schiavone to have fallen out of favor for them. anyways, in my opinion mike 'the professor' tenay deserves a spot just as much if not more than schiavone! he's been involved in wrestling in one way or another since the friggin 60s. guy never got his due imo. What did he do to Heenan? he refused to work heenan's style of comedy commentating, therefore isolating heenan from really being any use out their for his entire wcw career. most of his jokes were ignored or even torn into, he was often harsh to bobby, and it was clear that the two had an overall toxic relationship. when bobby was diagnosed with cancer, he said that schiavone was the one guy who didn't call him. schiavone has since admitted he was wrong for his treatment of bobby and regrets it. |
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Post by BSR on Dec 9, 2016 21:24:25 GMT -5
Because he was the voice of WCW. You can not like the guy but between his time in the NWA and WCW, he had a pretty great career. I know Brain hates him but some of their commentary from the MNWs is some of the funniest dialogue of all time. Heenan hating his job and not caring made for spectacular tv. WCW wasn't known for their commentary. Schiavone also withheld the finishes to matches from his colleagues, leading to the infamous "but who's side is he on" comment. The who's side is he on comment didn't take anything away from bash 96. It was perfectly normal for Heenan to downgrade Hogan. |
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Post by FUSamBaker on Dec 9, 2016 21:49:02 GMT -5
I just never did like the guy. He had absolutely no chemistry with Heenan and its known that he was horrible to the Brain. I think even Tony himself admitted that he was pretty awful to Heenan.
Aside from not liking him personally. Professionally, he was intelligent but not entertaining. I like how King and Ross were entertaining, Heenan and Monsoon were entertaining as well as Cole and JBL. And most of you know I'm always bias in favor of Tom Phillips even if he isn't very talented.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Dec 9, 2016 22:10:21 GMT -5
WCW wasn't known for their commentary. Schiavone also withheld the finishes to matches from his colleagues, leading to the infamous "but who's side is he on" comment. The who's side is he on comment didn't take anything away from bash 96. It was perfectly normal for Heenan to downgrade Hogan. Adds to him being a scum bag. |
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Post by BSR on Dec 9, 2016 22:46:00 GMT -5
The who's side is he on comment didn't take anything away from bash 96. It was perfectly normal for Heenan to downgrade Hogan. Adds to him being a scum bag. Adds to who being a scum bag? Heenan literally always made comments like that about Hogan. Had he not he would've gave it away that night. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Dec 9, 2016 23:44:44 GMT -5
i don't know for sure if it's the reasoning, but i don't think it was very smart to cross heenan. i don't think shane douglas is gonna be showing up on wwe tv either any time soon considering flair's relationship with triple h. heenan has a great immense amount of respect from fans and those in the business alike, and it wouldn't be hard for schiavone to have fallen out of favor for them. anyways, in my opinion mike 'the professor' tenay deserves a spot just as much if not more than schiavone! he's been involved in wrestling in one way or another since the friggin 60s. guy never got his due imo. Glad to hear that I'm not the only one who likes Teney. Yeah he wasn't great as a lead commentator but the guy always gave it his all and seemed to love his job. Tony I was never a fan of but Teney was enjoyable to me. I put Teney up there with guys like Monsoon, Heenan, Ventura, JR, and King (in his prime). |
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Post by TheLastDude on Dec 9, 2016 23:49:44 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 4:20:38 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 5:11:29 GMT -5
Anyone who says Heenan gave away Hogan's heel turn is a  ing liar. |
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Post by braaaaaaaapp on Dec 10, 2016 9:40:59 GMT -5
Schiavone was great. I loved WCW commentator teams way more than WWF's Monday Night Wars teams
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Post by k5 on Dec 10, 2016 13:41:18 GMT -5
Anyone who says Heenan gave away Hogan's heel turn is a ing liar. he did though? |
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Post by The Real Chillary on Dec 10, 2016 14:29:09 GMT -5
Anyone who says Heenan gave away Hogan's heel turn is a ing liar. he did though? Yeah. People tend to get defensive because Heenan is one of the all time greats, but he should have not said "Which side is he on". It places doubt in the fans mind at the very last second. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 14:56:35 GMT -5
Anyone who says Heenan gave away Hogan's heel turn is a ing liar. he did though? No. He didn't. You're looking at the situation in hindsight. |
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Post by k5 on Dec 10, 2016 15:07:47 GMT -5
No. He didn't. You're looking at the situation in hindsight. either way, it was bad timing for the line. blame wcw and keeping heenan in the dark. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 16:06:48 GMT -5
No. He didn't. You're looking at the situation in hindsight. either way, it was bad timing for the line. blame wcw and keeping heenan in the dark. It would have been far more alarming if Heenan didn't say that. It was just good heel commentating. |
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Post by k5 on Dec 10, 2016 16:28:04 GMT -5
either way, it was bad timing for the line. blame wcw and keeping heenan in the dark. It would have been far more alarming if Heenan didn't say that. It was just good heel commentating. it would not have been the least bit alarming if heenan simply showed his usual detest to hogan, "not him again!" or "why can't he stay outta this!" there's a reason it's so discussed - overall it was a blunder. |
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Post by BSR on Dec 10, 2016 16:34:26 GMT -5
It would have been far more alarming if Heenan didn't say that. It was just good heel commentating. it would not have been the least bit alarming if heenan simply showed his usual detest to hogan, "not him again!" or "why can't he stay outta this!" there's a reason it's so discussed - overall it was a blunder. I disagree. It felt normal hearing Heenan say that about Hogan to me. Had he said something else or nothing at all it would have been more obvious. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 16:55:58 GMT -5
It would have been far more alarming if Heenan didn't say that. It was just good heel commentating. it would not have been the least bit alarming if heenan simply showed his usual detest to hogan, "not him again!" or "why can't he stay outta this!" there's a reason it's so discussed - overall it was a blunder. It's discussed because people are liars and like to claim that it was 'obvious' and how awesome they are for knowing beforehand that Hogan was turning heel. |
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