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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Dec 23, 2016 0:38:30 GMT -5
First, off topic, I've never been good making titles, so if the title was confusing, my apologies.
Over the past few days, I've been listening to podcasts like Solomonster talking about the UK Title and there a listener questioner asking if it were possible that WWE was starting to build a territorial system in different countries. Example, the whole UK Title Tournament is going to lead to a possible show made in the UK for the Network. So does anyone think that this is only the beginning of what WWE is planning on doing in the future? There's also an interview that the president of Bushiroad, company that owns NJPW, saying that WWE is planning on trying ro invade different countries to start their own company based on a particular country, like WWE going to Japan to do the same thing they're doing in the UK. I personally think that the idea of WWE doing it sounds great on paper, it sounds great for the Network cause it could lead to more subscribers on different countries but at the same time, it doesn't sound great for other companies in the future with WWE raiding their companies, like its rumored and sorta happening with WWE raiding ROH.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Dec 23, 2016 0:48:48 GMT -5
Isn't NXT really supposed to be their territorial system though??
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Dec 23, 2016 2:27:11 GMT -5
Isn't NXT really supposed to be their territorial system though?? Thats their developmental system. I was talking about a full on global territorial system, ala WWE running a separate promotion on Japan, UK, etc under their watch
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2016 2:52:24 GMT -5
Great thread question Eddy.
The WWE usurped every notion of what the territory system (and the NWA) was when they went national, and further still when they went global. Over thirty years later it's impossible to think of 'wrestling' and not correlate that with 'what the WWE is doing'.
For them to establish or at least have a concept or an idea for their own version of a territory doesn't surprise me - but I would think it makes it exceptionally difficult for a talent outside the 'WWE Bubble' to come up with something original or catching to make the audience connect with them. (In terms of a persona or 'star' factor)
I did think of a similar concept awhile ago for something I've been working on writing-wise (my Text Fed) but retooled it as I wanted it to be more original)...but it seems life imitates art in some aspects regardless...!
Having WWE 'bases' in UK, Europe, Japan, Mexico, Australia/New Zealand would be a truly monumental undertaking, and if done in Vince McMahon's lifetime, I garner it would be an accomplishment that would be right up there with the creation of Wrestlemania.
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Post by marino13 on Dec 23, 2016 9:36:54 GMT -5
I've been waiting/expecting WWE to do something like this for many years. It just makes sense. Every smart businessman would do the same if they were in Vince's shoes. Total Global Domination.
I do think some minor indy feds may be hurt initially. But at the same time, WWE will get more eyes on wrestling, and then in return the more talent that will try out. So there's a chance the industry could flourish in the long run.
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Post by Chip on Dec 23, 2016 11:17:47 GMT -5
I dont know if thats the proper way of describing it...because they cant really do that in the US
however I truly believe they are trying to create their own brand across the globe. I wouldn't be surprised to see them try and start a legit thing over in the UK after this show. If that is successful you can bet we'll be seeing something in Japan or Mexico.
Its a brilliant move. Expand your business so you can finally be literally called "World" wrestling etertainment.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Dec 23, 2016 12:37:35 GMT -5
The WWE can have a WWE UK all they want, but you damn well know that each and every one of those talents that are gonna be wrestling there is wanting to be in the USA wrestling for the North American WWE, where guys like Cena, Styles, Rollins, Reigns, Lesnar and such are.
The only way for a WWE UK to succeed, is they need big name stars from here to go there and wrestle too. Because honestly, at the end of the day, myself (and I am sure many others as well) aren't gonna give two craps about the WWE UK show. Much like a lot of us don't give a crap about the Cruiser Weights in the WWE.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Dec 23, 2016 17:43:25 GMT -5
WWE is slowly taking over the wrestling scene which is a shame because WWE doesn't like to be called wrestling. I have this horrible image in my head of me being an old man telling my grandkids about "wrestling" and they just laugh at me for using such an old fashioned word cause everyone knows it's "sports entertainment" now.
I like WWE but I feel viewers and talent need an alternative to sport entertainment, and I just don't feel "wrestling" is gonna play a part in years to come.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Dec 23, 2016 17:45:18 GMT -5
I dont know if thats the proper way of describing it...because they cant really do that in the US however I truly believe they are trying to create their own brand across the globe. I wouldn't be surprised to see them try and start a legit thing over in the UK after this show. If that is successful you can bet we'll be seeing something in Japan or Mexico. Its a brilliant move. Expand your business so you can finally be literally called "World" wrestling etertainment. I agree. And plus, with WWE wanting to do a show from the UK, that could lead a little bit more subscribers from the UK, and if its successful, this could lead to more countries getting involved. Unless WWE is successful in purchasing a Japanese promotion, they'll probably struggle expanding there, with NJPW changing their contract lengths, and the president condemning WWE. I think it would be cool if WWE expanded to Japan, maybe do a show from there. I'm looking forward to where this leads.
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Post by Dex on Dec 23, 2016 17:46:23 GMT -5
Good for Vince, business, and the WWE brand. Bad for anyone else. This will essentially create a monopoly on wrestling. Indies won't be able to compete with the WWE in local markets - and local wrestlers will always give preference to WWE on the potential possibility of them making it big and become a part of the main WWE brand.
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Post by DeadHeadKing on Dec 23, 2016 20:57:17 GMT -5
I think it could be interesting. I see it as a way to introduce international talent to the WWE universe so they have a following coming in. I also see it as developmental for developmental, by that I mean it could be a way to size up the talent and if they are ready then bring them to Raw or SDL, but if the talent has something but the are not quite there yet then send them to NXT. I can see though where fans can be against the whole concept, with companies in the U.K. and other countries getting their rosters raided by WWE, and so on. But I'm going to wait and see how it turns out, I hope it works out but I can't make a decision until I see what happens.
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Post by k5 on Dec 23, 2016 21:20:57 GMT -5
from smw to ecw to ovw to nxt, wwe has had development centres. just like everything else in the world, wrestling is becoming less centrally americanized and international markets are emerging due to that. the wwe is responding to that.
kurt angle said in his interview with steve austin that the wrestling market is white hot in the uk. i think that shows that it's an international thing - ra ka king, emerging cruiserweights from around the world, nxt events in japan celebrating certain stars of that county, etc. we're watching the wwe evolve and so far they've doing a pretty good job at it.
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Post by BSR on Dec 23, 2016 21:43:45 GMT -5
First, off topic, I've never been good making titles, so if the title was confusing, my apologies. Over the past few days, I've been listening to podcasts like Solomonster talking about the UK Title and there a listener questioner asking if it were possible that WWE was starting to build a territorial system in different countries. Example, the whole UK Title Tournament is going to lead to a possible show made in the UK for the Network. So does anyone think that this is only the beginning of what WWE is planning on doing in the future? There's also an interview that the president of Bushiroad, company that owns NJPW, saying that WWE is planning on trying ro invade different countries to start their own company based on a particular country, like WWE going to Japan to do the same thing they're doing in the UK. I personally think that the idea of WWE doing it sounds great on paper, it sounds great for the Network cause it could lead to more subscribers on different countries but at the same time, it doesn't sound great for other companies in the future with WWE raiding their companies, like its rumored and sorta happening with WWE raiding ROH. If they're going to keep taking roh stars they need to hire Silas Young.
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Post by weaseltv on Dec 23, 2016 22:00:11 GMT -5
You can sort of see this coming... China will probably be the next since they have all the new signees for NXT or Australia. I'm thinking Japan and Mexico might not happen because they have some pretty strong companies there.
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Post by Nivro™ on Dec 23, 2016 22:55:50 GMT -5
WWE UK is to the WWE as NFL Europe was to the NFL
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Post by Biff Slamkovich™ on Dec 24, 2016 0:09:36 GMT -5
It makes sense for them to do it, so why wouldn't they? They lay out the groundwork by swinging deals with smaller Indy promotions where talent is developed in smaller companies then eventually brought up to WWE. In exchange, WWE could promote those small promotions shows or they could even feature their content on WWE Network.
It just seems like the wrestling industry would be better off if everyone just worked together. Now someone tell that to NJPW...
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Post by theMOESIAH on Dec 24, 2016 1:44:51 GMT -5
They weren't happy with they arguably illegal American monopoly, now they're building a global monopoly.
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Post by C Wrestling UK on Dec 24, 2016 9:34:14 GMT -5
I'd hope WWE just choose 6 major countries and do annual tournaments for that countries championship.
It would put extra content on the network, give wrestlers exposure, give WWE a chance to see how some of the wrestlers do on camera etc And if they impress, bring them up to NXT / main roster.
I bet that won't happen however and we'll more likely see a weekly show.
I do appreciate that the UK tournament is 2 days back to back though and not spread over weeks
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Post by Yambag Jones on Dec 24, 2016 10:48:02 GMT -5
They weren't happy with they arguably illegal American monopoly, now they're building a global monopoly. Please elaborate.
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Post by Infinite on Dec 24, 2016 11:43:23 GMT -5
It should be noted that a huge reason for the incoming UK expansion is that WWE has dominated this (UK) market for a while now, probably makes quite a lot from it, and ITV are coming in with a world of sport reboot. It's largely protectionist imo, I wouldn't expect them to move into Mexico or Japan any time soon tbh. If they do I really don't now how much luck they'll have there against much stronger domestic competition.
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