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Post by J'Dinkalage Morgoone on Jan 21, 2017 17:00:40 GMT -5
I was excited to see Zayn at the royal rumble last year, and he and nakamura put on one of the best matches in pro wrestling for 2016. However this feud with Strowman has killed my intrest in him. The "ultimate underdog" gimmick is incredibly overused with pretty much every small guy ever in wrestling history. Im just tired of him. Ziggler used to be one of my favorites and his cashing in of the money in the bank breifcase was amazing. However in my opinion he has became incredibly dull, if youve seen one ziggler match then youve seen them all. He seems to get title matches out of no where...even after losing multiple times at PPVs for a lesser title. It makes no sense.
Am i the only one who feels like this?
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Post by tiny04 on Jan 21, 2017 17:02:57 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by IRS on Jan 21, 2017 17:23:56 GMT -5
Nyet, to both.
Ziggler's heel turn is the fresh coat of paint he's been needing for well over a year; Zayn seems to finally be gaining some traction in the upper mid-card. That's enough to keep me interested in both.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jan 21, 2017 17:41:15 GMT -5
I disagree about Ziggler. The heel turn has done him wonders and what we saw in the Royal court was much superior than the face crybaby Ziggler we've had to endure for months.
Zayn however is getting very lame I'm afraid. He has a cool look and catchy music but his lack of character and mic skills makes him seem pointless and I wasn't impressed with the backstage segment with him, Rollins and Reigns on Raw.
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Post by Triple S on Jan 21, 2017 17:41:18 GMT -5
Yes. You are the only one.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jan 21, 2017 17:41:31 GMT -5
I've been really happy to see Ziggler turn back heel but even before that his feud with Miz was excellent. I really loved his stuff with Lawler.
Zayn has been given garbage lately, specifically with Foley and Strowman. I would be excited to see him pushed into something significant as soon as it happens though.
To each his own. Just because you like a guy doesn't mean you have to like him forever.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Jan 21, 2017 17:42:02 GMT -5
Zigglers heel turn was needed. Samis feud with Strowman was interested, but he could use another feud like that, but where he wins in the end
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jan 21, 2017 18:13:42 GMT -5
I disagree about Ziggler. The heel turn has done him wonders and what we saw in the Royal court was much superior than the face crybaby Ziggler we've had to endure for months. Zayn however is getting very lame I'm afraid. He has a cool look and catchy music but his lack of character and mic skills makes him seem pointless and I wasn't impressed with the backstage segment with him, Rollins and Reigns on Raw. I don't know if having the body type of someone that has never seen a gym before is a cool look. He could at least hit the weights and not look so lazy in his physical appearance. Or start wearing a shirt like Corbin did.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Cinnamon! on Jan 21, 2017 18:27:28 GMT -5
I like Sami Zayn but no matter what Ziggler does, hes like waching paint dry. The HBK tribute is just straight up HBK now. His yelling promos were pretty lame and now his talking slow thing is even worse.
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Post by k5 on Jan 21, 2017 18:38:17 GMT -5
i'm tired of wwe creative not having any creativity, which results in staleness of everyone on the roster due to intertia.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jan 21, 2017 18:47:23 GMT -5
I disagree about Ziggler. The heel turn has done him wonders and what we saw in the Royal court was much superior than the face crybaby Ziggler we've had to endure for months. Zayn however is getting very lame I'm afraid. He has a cool look and catchy music but his lack of character and mic skills makes him seem pointless and I wasn't impressed with the backstage segment with him, Rollins and Reigns on Raw. I don't know if having the body type of someone that has never seen a gym before is a cool look. He could at least hit the weights and not look so lazy in his physical appearance. Or start wearing a shirt like Corbin did. I'm talking about his flashy tights.
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Post by marino13 on Jan 21, 2017 18:57:36 GMT -5
Zayn is my favorite full time talent on any roster.
Ziggler was stale, but the heel turn has helped.
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Post by King Richius on Jan 21, 2017 19:00:23 GMT -5
I have to agree with the OP with regards to Sami. I get some of the underdog appeal but this guy can wrestle a good match in his sleep, a great match when he is motivated. I hate it that outside of the Owens matches, Zayn has been reduced to the role of selling incredible amounts of punishment in his matches with little offense of his own. He has become boring thanks to how he is booked.
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Post by drgreenevil on Jan 21, 2017 19:05:29 GMT -5
I've never been a Ziggler fan. He has never done anything to catch my attention. Always seemed like a Billy Gunn clone. I kinda like Sami Zayn, but I have always wondered what his gimmick is? What exactly is his character or hook? Normal Ginger Guy?
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Post by Funk The Revival on Jan 21, 2017 20:53:00 GMT -5
Always been a Ziggler mark and really liked Zayn's stuff with Owens. Hopefully they get something going with SZ like they seem to have with DZ
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Post by The neferious brotha Hargrove on Jan 21, 2017 22:33:31 GMT -5
I haven't found Ziggler interesting since 2013 , he just there when wwe needs a established star to job to a upcoming heel NXT star , really as of late he has been semi-watchable with his heel turn
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2017 23:10:34 GMT -5
Sami is overrated and boring
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Post by The Constable on Jan 22, 2017 2:18:34 GMT -5
I was with Ziggler until he turned heel recently hopefully they make it like his heel character from 2011 to 2013 then I'll be happy
With Sami Zayn I think management don't want him to end up like Daniel Bryan so there making his character as cringe worthy as possible so he will never get over and it's working that segment with him Reigns and Rollins last Monday was hard to watch (another guy who will only have the NXT days to look back on)
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Post by dimshady on Jan 22, 2017 3:00:39 GMT -5
I like Zyan, Ziggler however has been ruined for me. Could of pulled the trigger a few times, now it's always the same stuff.
I hope the heel turn works out for him though.
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Jan 22, 2017 5:06:35 GMT -5
I feel the same as you, tired of both of them atm. I'm still pulling for Zayn to turn it around, but I don't care about Ziggler at all anymore.
Everything with Ziggler just seems really forced. They tried to force him as a babyface down our throats against Miz for months, now he's the ultimate heel? Not buying it one bit...
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